jerryskids

I'm sure the Pats are happy to contribute to his defense fund.

That's a lot of words that don't answer my question. Answer it, and I'll do you the courtesy of showing you how you don't understand how polls work.

If by "his actions" you mean the entirety of his behavior with Venezuela, including bombing the boats, then of course that is what the polls indicate. If by "his actions" you mean the capture of Maduro, then see my response to Tim. Speaking of which, I've noted that you do not consider a 225% increase "strong."

Do you feel ignored or something? Anyway, say they polled 1M Dems. In December, 40,000 of them approved of Trump's handling of Venezuela. A month later, the day after Maduro is captured, 130,000 of them approve of Trump's handling of Venezuela. Would you say that is a strong increase? As an additional note, they never asked specifically about the capture of Maduro. Perhaps this was to keep consistent with the previous polls, but since the only tangible change was the capture, we could conclude that a significantly higher number of people would answer "yes" to approving the capture, correct?

Recapping the history here: I point out a strong increase. Gutter shows he doesn't know what "increase" means. I explain how the math works. Gutter explains that he doesn't understand how the math works, or discredits the polls, maybe both, while suggesting I should discredit the polls. I explain this to Gutter. Gutter accuses me of moving the goalposts but... ... my point all along is that the latest polls show a strong increase. I'd say HTH to Gutter, but I know it won't.

Good job ignoring the clear improvement in your own polls, and as a bonus funny, accusing me of having marching orders. Also, congrats on showing you understand percentages as well as Trump.

I had a great night, thanks. Went to our neighbor's house to play euchre. The first polls were conducted prior to the Maduro capture and reflected people's opinions of the bombing of Venezuelan boats. I have been on record as opposing those. The later polls were in the immediate aftermath of the Maduro capture and showed significant improvement in both Dem and Rep approval of Trump's handling of Venezuela. Meanwhile, Gutter in his brilliance tells me I should say "pollz shmolz lol" while simultaneously ignoring the above clear trend, and discounting the veracity of his own polls. I'd say you can't make this up but... ... he closed out the night showing once again that he doesn't understand percentages. My guess is he had one to many IPAs celebrating the Giants victory that worsened their draft slot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/05/tim-walz-out-minnesota-00710541 Seems he missed the memo from dogcows and Ron Artest that this was a nothingburger.

Thanks, Red HerringCows!

Lolz, you are a child. The 13% is the Dem number, they would give Trump <10% if he rescued a cat from a tree. And I would expect you to understand the math of polls, but apparently not. You were doing good pretending to be moderate for a while, but I guess that's done. Welcome back, Moderate Tim.

The polls show significant improvement in approval. I can't fix your inability to math. Ignorance is bliss.

4% or 40%, if the poll is accurate, the numbers are accurate, and that's a huge increase. And that's on the Dem side. I hate to break it to you, but you are the one arguing "pollz schmollz lol". You are saying your own polls are crap. HTH

Democrat support went from 4% to 13%. That's a 225% increase. Not strong enough for "strong"?

Looks like a strong increase in support of handling Venezuela since Maduro was captured, from both Dems and Reps.

Of course not, I'm sure there will be glitches along the road. Do you think it will be an abject disaster simply because Trump is doing it?

Football Guru?

No, I said that capturing a narco terrorist tyrant Putin partner with an outstanding warrant is an objectively good thing. Impacting weapons and military training with Iran is good. Impacting oil resources for Russia and China, also good. Lower leverage from Canada in oil discussions, tres bien, Fewer drugs in the US, good. Improved conditions in Venezuela to create less incentive for them to come here illegally, or under faux asylum, and to generally thrive as a country, seems good to me. If we choose to do a decade plus long disaster like Iraq or Afghanistan, bad. I'm looking at the different angles. You, not so much. See, this is the kind of sky screaming passion I'm talking about! I could have quoted any of the dozens of your posts showing such a joie de TDS. Keep up the good work.

Alrighty then. I sometimes forget how smart and prescient you TDS sky screamers are.

Well, this is speculation about the impact to Canada, and the presumption is that we would buy it from Venezuela. But yes, cheaper oil and leverage certainly could be a factor. Also, Venezuela and Iran work together on weapons and training. This could be a shot at Iran. From 4 days ago: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/12/disrupting-irans-uav-proliferation-to-venezuela-and-irans-weapons-programs Coincidence that this was released just this week? There are a lot of strategic reasons to fock with Venezuela.

Canada is gripping. They anticipate a US-friendly regime in Venezuela, and that we'll be getting cheaper oil from them. Oil is the one economic lever Canada has with us, and it is critical to their economy.

Thanks for letting me know what I'll think.

I would not support another extended occupation in Venezuela, like we did in Iraq or Afghanistan. Like I wouldn't in Iran. HTH. Better luck on your next gotcha.

The next time you support anything Trump does will be the first time, Mr. Objectivity with no self-awareness.

Mamdani supports Maduro. Color me shocked. Oh, and hey Mr. Mayor, those tens of thousands are probably dancing in the streets.

Actually, the only thing that is certain is that you TDS sky screamers are predictably apoplectic about Trump apprehending a narco terrorist tyrant Putin partner with an outstanding warrant. Because we're watching it in this thread. One of the best gifts of Trump is that every once in a while he does something that is objectively good, and it's fun watching you guys trying to spin it as bad. Also, I'm fairly confident in saying that nobody hated Biden with anything near the passion that the average Leftie hates Trump. So while your speculation may prove true, it wouldn't have the same, I dunno, oomph as it does from you guys.