TimHauck

I simply pointed out initially that the first article you linked did not mention Newsom. You replied to that with 3 more links (well really 2, one was the same one you linked originally), saying “Newsom was named DIRECTLY.” That was a lie, as he was not named in those articles either. HTH

@Walker lied by saying Newsom was “named DIRECTLY” in the three previous articles he posted. HTH

Page Six lololol. And all this is is repeating Pratt’s claims. Where is @Strike when you need him to make fun of the sources people use.

Newsom (no E) is not named in any of these articles. And the third one is the same one you posted in the OP.

Gonna guess digby fell for fake news again, at least as it pertains to Newsom’s involvement in this. The article provided does not mention Newsom’s name at all btw.

Not sure if @Meglamaniac is one, but I think a major reason people are arguing that illegals “aren’t under the jurisdiction” is because of the birthright citizenship discussion…

Well at least you’re better than people like @Horseman, @EternalShinyAndChrome, and@TBayXXXVII that can’t admit they’re wrong.

No, I don’t think it is. I just said I could understand the argument and I think arguing about it is semantics.

Yes you did.

You said the Supreme Court didn’t disagree with you. Survey says, they do.

2001 case of Zadvydas vs Davis Despite the government’s broad power over immigration, the Supreme Court has recognized that aliens who have physically entered the United States generally come under the protective scope of the Due Process Clause, which applies to all ‘persons’ within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent.1 https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-6-2-3/ALDE_00013726/#ALDF_00028415 But seriously @Meglamaniac, I appreciate you actually commenting about the topic of the thread. Sorry to have to prove you wrong though.

That was the link he posted to prove that porn was allowed on twitter. I was wrong in thinking it wasn’t, but the thread was about the “Twitter files” when it came out that a lot of what was censored at the direction of the government was Hunter Biden d1ck pics, which @Horseman was trying to argue should have been allowed on Twitter but that is obviously incorrect.

So we’ve got almost a whole page of posts from like 4 different people talking to each other about how they “ignore” me. I’m not sure you guys know the definition of “ignore”…

No but @Horseman and @EternalShinyAndChrome are. You weren’t here at the time but @Horseman’s go-to porn website is “gaywebcam.com”. NTTAWWT of course.

Did you see me prove you wrong about the court order that you claimed meant he couldn’t be deported?

Good to know a bunch of the righties just want this place to be a circle jerk.

I literally just said I think it was more of a cruel and unusual punishment issue than a due process issue. But I also think arguing about it is semantics, I can see the argument for why one would say it’s a due process issue.

Well first of all you need to acknowledge that it was more than just “a mistake.” It started as a mistake, but became intentional when the admin made comments like “he’s never coming back” and refused to try to bring him back until the Supreme Court intervened. Arguing whether him being sent to El Salvador was a due process issue feels like semantics as long as we can all agree that he shouldn’t have been sent there. And looks like @squistion agrees that he had due process prior to that.

What about before he was sent to El Salvador? If you’re just talking about him being sent to a terrorist prison in El Salvador, I agree. Although I kinda feel like that’s not necessarily a matter of due process and moreso cruel and unusual punishment.

Anyone present in this country except for diplomats, are under the jurisdiction of the United States.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you, is that better?

Also, weird that you don’t care about posters saying people don’t have a right to due process. That seems like a pretty big deal IMO. But hey, at least @Meglamaniac is finally providing some actual thoughts to a thread. Too bad they’re terrible.

I ignore a lot of @RLLD’s ramblings as well as the people that fall into his word salad traps, was @squistion talking about Abrego Garcia specifically? I thought most of his recent comments were speaking generally.

@Horseman still mad I bumped a few of the numerous times he fell for fake news, lol

I literally just said Abrego Garcia had due process. Do you agree with these idiots saying illegals don’t have a right to due process?