TimHauck

Well 49% also believed the S&P 500 was down for the year, so there’s that

@RLLD’s statement about racism only existing where Democrats are most dominant was not specifying “systemic”

How is that saying “the nuclear family isn’t good”?? That is what’s being taken out of context. No one here (or in that quote) is saying there is anything wrong with being a homemaker. We’re just also saying there’s nothing wrong with NOT being a homemaker. Butker is saying they should want to be homemakers. So you’re against IVF and surrogacy?

You’re not very smart to keep bringing up Covid in an argument where the data ends in 2019

Once again, I was replying to the statement that “racism is isolated to pockets where Democrats are most dominant.” Democrats are not most dominant in the rural south, and there are plenty of racists there (they’re not all racists though of course). If any of those racists are hiring managers for example then blacks could still be impacted by systemic racism in those areas.

More evidence that the Geek Club can’t read. People hung up on the recession argument but 49% think unemployment is at a 50 year high??? Wtf???

You said “racism is isolated to pockets where Democrats are most dominant.” I’m simply pointing out that that statement is laughably inaccurate. Add it to your recent list of similar statements.

Well read up one post for starters. That’s a pretty important “thing”

So none of the people flying confederate flags in the rural south are racist?

This is misleading because 2013 was coming off high unemployment so there were more jobs to create. You’re also comparing 4 years of Obama vs 3 of Trump. Trump vs Obama’s economy is probably debatable, but there’s no debate that Trump’s economy pre-Covid was better than the current economy. Of course idiots talking in extremes like “Trump’s economy was the best in decades and Biden’s is the worst of the lower classes’ lifetime” isn’t helping people understand that.

You’re funny

So there is still suppression of blacks by non-blacks, got it

Wait aren’t you the guy that says there is no current suppression of blacks by non-blacks?

^Another one that I’m pretty sure was complaining about people “twisting Butker’s words” and is jumping to conclusions that absolutely no one said. But I know @TBayXXXVII has said a lot of hypocritical things in the past, so no surprise here

I actually have no issue with his comment about them being “most excited about their marriage and children.” I do think that’s probably true for many female college graduates especially at a Catholic college. And most importantly that particular statement doesn’t exclude them from also having a career. But where the “shaming” them for having a career comes in IMO is telling them they’ve been “told diabological lies” and that “homemaker is one of the most important titles in the world.”

They’ve made at least $2 billion in profit every year except 2020 for 15+ years

Speaking of Pixar, who else is pumped for Inside Out 2?

That’s not exactly what you said though. You asked if he was referring to “lack of love,” and I said his statement could also be referring to that there IS love just not as much love as is being given by the person. Here is another quote towards the end of his speech, sounds kinda like what you said here: ”Together, we’re capable of building a democracy worthy of our dreams; a future where every — even more of your brothers and sisters can follow their dreams; a boundless future where your legacies lift us up t- — so those who follow; a bigger, brighter future that proves the American Dream is big enough for everyone to succeed.”

Yup, this.

That’s closer but still not quite what he said. He said “doesn’t love them back in equal measure.” It could still love them just not as much as they love the country. So partly for that reason, no I don’t really have an issue with him saying that. I don’t have a problem even if he does mean “lack of love.” While race relations in this country are far better than when Biden wasn’t senile, there’s still room to improve. Like I said earlier the main comment in his speech that I had an issue with is him blaming “white supremacy” for “black men dying in the streets.” I’m honestly not quite sure if he’s referring more to gang violence or blacks being unjustly killed by cops. We know blacks being unjustly killed by cops is very rare (but not nonexistent), and I’m not sure how white supremacy would be to blame for gang violence. I of course am on record as saying systemic racism and white privilege exists and contributes to blacks being more likely to be poor. But there is no excuse for murder.

Saying he said something that he really didn’t edit: sorry I probably shouldn’t have said “again.” That was mostly @Cdub100 and @EternalShinyAndChrome before

But anyway I don’t see much issue with this comment. Overall his speech seemed fine, albeit a little race-baity. But like Butker speaking at a Catholic school, he was speaking at an all-male HBCU, so that’s not too surprising IMO. The one comment I take issue with is him blaming white supremacy for “black men being killed on the streets.”

There you go doing the same thing you were accusing us of doing to Butker again

Stewart nailed that whole segment about right wing media (fake) “outrage”