TimHauck

To me, the Campbell stuff shows it’s a pattern for that particular cop, considering with the multiple cops there it was the same guy that 1) pulled Hill out of the car and shoved him to the ground, 2) forcefully put Hill on the curb, and 3) handcuffed Campbell. If it was just Hill then maybe you could write it off as Hill not cooperating fully (putting aside the fact that he was literally on his way out of the car when he was grabbed and put on the ground, and wasn’t given much time to sit down after he was already in handcuffs), but handcuffing Campbell despite him doing nothing wrong leads me to believe that more of the blame likely lies on the officer. As such, I have a feeling the Campbell video could be damaging if Hill brings a lawsuit.

So cops can just handcuff anyone they feel like because there’s a chance the person they’re dealing with might be dangerous? My point in asking your opinion about Campbell is that I obviously feel he didn’t deserve to be handcuffed in the scenario we’re actually discussing. As do most normal people that actually have an opinion (what a copout to say you have no opinion btw, lol). So based on the video, his actions would support what everyone says about him being a great guy and how he says he was raised to behave around police.

Hard to compare him to Bill Cosby and Alex Murdaugh then

Do you think Campbell deserved to get handcuffed in this instance?

Sure, but all accounts of him from others are that he’s an all around great dude. Do you think he deserved to get handcuffed in this instance?

I don’t know how many interactions he has had with cops, but in a recent interview he stated that he was taught as a kid to always comply with police officers and “let them know that you’re not a threat” (6:40 in the below link) Do you think he deserved to get handcuffed in this instance?

Hill had already provided his license, and the one cop knew it was him as he told the other officers (but I guess brown sleeves didn’t hear), which was before any of the physicality took place.

Hey @Horseman, still waiting for those discord screenshots

Other than causing some car accidents and filling up their trash cans, seems like this is what most of the Haitians in Springfield are doing, FWIW.

No

Well here is the law these officers cited which doesn’t take effect until 2025: http://laws.flrules.org/2024/85 As this is a new law which will require bystanders to remain at least 25 feet from a first responder if asked, does that mean there is no similar law on the books? If so, then wouldn’t that mean telling Campbell to leave was not actually a lawful command?

Employers in Springfield: the Haitians are hardworking and reliable Geek club: they’re savages!!

You said there were multiple eyewitness accounts in Oliveira’s video of people eating pets. There was only one who came close, who did not indicate they were pets.

I have proof that you lied

I could use some help finding the law about standing in a public area in the general vicinity of someone being pulled over, can you assist? Also, any opinion on the cops citing a law that doesn’t go into effect until 2025?

You mean one eyewitness account? There was precisely one supposed eyewitness account in the video, the guy saying he saw a van picking up cats and supposedly admit to the police they were eating them. If this is even true they were most likely strays and not people’s pets. Same guy later said he gets along with the Haitians, lol.

Benny Johnson must still be getting those Russian checks, posts the Oliveira video claiming it’s evidence people are eating pets, despite there being no evidence in the video that people are eating pets

Surely you can see how someone would interpret the below as defending the police actions/blaming Hill for what happened. But I’d appreciate it if you could please clarify by adding a more specific opinion on the police’s behavior. TIA.

I’ll let @Fireballer handle this one, he doesn’t like other people talking about police terminology

What is your opinion of the police behavior?

What are we calling “it”? Killing and eating people’s pets? If so, we’re still at it’s not happening.

Well he said careless, which is what I assumed you were questioning. When one of the cops asked the other what he was giving him, he said “seatbelt and careless.” The other guy asks “reckless?” and he says no.

Also I interpreted her project 2025 comments as a prediction, not necessarily saying that was his stated plan. There were some lies in there though, so thanks for the link. Can’t remember, were the same people saying Trump’s “bloodbath” comment was a figure of speech any of the same ones complaining about Biden saying “put him in the bullseye”?

I also don’t believe she said police officers were “murdered” on January 6th, rather that they died.

On “taking everyone’s guns,” the closest I’ve seen from Kamala is a 2019 statement saying she supported “mandatory buybacks.” Seems she has changed her position since then. But fyi posting clips of her saying she wants universal background checks, red flag laws, and an assault weapons ban is not proof she wants to take everyone’s guns.