TimHauck

Follow the argument dummy. I’ve specifically said it was worse than 2016-2019. @RLLD said the current economy was “the worst of their lifetime for people in the lower classes.” I pointed out that it’s not worse than after the 2008 crash.

Now do vs 2009

Define “people.” Some people, sure. The lower classes as a whole, absolutely not. I’m not saying it’s good. It’s definitely worse than 2016-2019. But it’s still better than after the 2008 crash for the lower classes.

A bubble would be bad for someone that buys 38,000 houses right before the bubble. I’m saying Blackstone probably doesn’t think it’s a bubble.

Less people living in poverty and far lower unemployment says you are wrong. Anyone who thinks the current economy is worse for the lower classes than after the 2008 crash is focking delusional.

You said it signals the potential for a bubble….

I don’t think they think there will be a bubble. They just bought 38,000 single family homes in January. https://www.fastcompany.com/91015371/housing-market-blackstone-instutional-landlords

@RLLD had no idea who Michael Burry is, and thinks the current economy is worse for the lower classes than after the 2008 crash

For people making minimum wage, yes. But they are a very small part of the workforce. I actually misspoke earlier, they are only 1% of workers earning hourly wages, not all workers. And a good chunk of them are 16-24 so probably in high school or college and not actually living in poverty. I’d actually bet that salaries among many lower class workers increased faster than the overall average in recent years. With the recent supply chain crunches, many companies had to increase wages for front line employees in order to attract workers.

“They” being people making minimun wage? Sure. Yes, there are some people that this is the “worst economy of their lifetime.” But that’s not true for the lower classes as a whole, and the fact that there are about 70% fewer people making minimum wage than 2008-2010 is further evidence of that.

No

Poverty rate quite a bit lower than after the 2008 crash https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-280.pdf

Only a little over 1% of workers earn minimum wage (compared to 5-6% in 2009-2011), and 45% of those are between 16-24 years old. People making minimum wage are not representative of even “the lower classes.” https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2022/home.htm

https://www.youtube.com/live/EfEkqNe7LoY?si=YVCnJdRwqrZnRiNy

Yeah like I said, a spokesman repeating the lie is a colossal screwup even given what they knew at the time. I presume the Dodgers also allowed it, who should be concerned with the PR surrounding Ohtani. But I just listened to the press conference, and sounds like they do have good evidence that it was theft. Congrats, you were most likely right. You still didn’t have good reason to be so confident about it originally without having this evidence.

“Someone else” that was also being paid by Ohtani. That is a pretty colossal screw up if they were simply taking the word of the guy they already knew had $4.5 million in gambling debt, and if Ohtani was not present when Mizuhara was relaying the story to the representative. Even if they were only speaking English, it seemed people speaking English was how Ohtani supposedly figured out that something was up.

It is hilarious to see how @jonmx has acted regarding Ohtani compared to usual. But to clarify. Saying Ohtani was the one gambling would be a conspiracy theory. I don’t think saying Ohtani may have paid Mizuhara’s debts is a conspiracy theory. It’s literally the explanation official Ohtani representatives initially gave.

If Ohtani paid Mizuhara’s debts, what evidence would there even be? Maybe some text messages if we’re lucky, but doubtful

Would you consider him “innocent” if he paid off his friend’s debts? @jonmx seems to think there’s no way that scenario happened either

I’m pretty sure I said BOTH the theft story and the original story of Ohtani helping him were plausible, just that I’d lean towards the original story. It’s also possible Ohtani is paying him millions more than the gambling debt to take the fall.

I watched. It was interesting. (Spoiler:) I did think it was odd though that they seemed to spend more time making accusations against the main producer dude, despite no real hard evidence, and not as much time on the guys that were actually convicted pedos.

All right what Geek Club poster is really Jesse Watters? Peefoam? Or maybe @Casual Observer?

Are there? I thought anyone could go to an HBCU

I am growing. I think I’m going to make you the first poster I’ve ever put on ignore

Great, another tranny thread