TimHauck

I don’t think it’s fair to conclude they never received the docs. That was also at the height of Covid so there could have been delays with stuff like that. Iowa has stated they did have all the required documents, and completed the FBI check. Guessing he must have been using a stolen SS # or something.

Replying with that article alone was a bit of a troll, I did not mean to imply that the shooter’s motivation for the shooting had to do with MAGA, as I specifically said in the OP. But as I noted, hating Mormons probably isn’t incredibly unique among extreme far right folks. Here’s an old article for example talking about other Christians attacking Mitt Romney for being Mormon: https://www.foxnews.com/us/mormons-beliefs-once-again-under-attack Again, my main point is to point out the hypocrisy of folks who attack “the left” if a tranny commits a mass shooting for example. Maybe a better title for the thread to point out this comparison would have been “MAGA is a mental illness”? Speaking of, I’m a bit confused by your comment about “equating Democrats with MAGA.” Are you saying MAGA isn’t mainstream among Republicans (not all Republicans are MAGA, but many are).

She’s the lady that posted the thread I shared earlier. Strike was skeptical of her credentials

Strike says not to believe her, she’s from the gaming chat room

So the Anunciation church shooting in Minneapolis was not political either, correct?

Except when that happened GC righties blamed it on leftists too

I literally said in the OP that him being MAGA may not have had anything to do with his motivation for the attack. But he was, in fact, MAGA. I just find the dichotomy interesting. If a tranny commits a mass shooting, it’s “tHe LeFt WiNg ViOlEnCe Is OuT oF cOnTrOL!!!.” If a MAGA dude commits a mass shooting, it’s “yeah but him being MAGA isn’t why he did the shooting!!!” The other interesting dichotomy is the number of posts on the subject. Likely Democrat mass shooters get probably 5x the posts as likely Republican mass shooters.

I don’t think it’s a “MAGA movement,” but I could certainly see some of the opinions from the shooter being shared by extreme MAGA’s, and IMO it’s noteworthy that the shooter did intentionally target the Mormon church, it’s not like he just went crazy and happened to be near the church. Not for nothing but things like polygamy for example probably wouldn’t go over well with folks like Harrison Butker.

Lol, apparently someone photoshopped the Trump writing off of it, then tried claiming the one with Trump on it was fake, and tons of MAGA’s believed it

https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-news/michigan-church-shooter-thomas-sanford-called-mormonism-the-antichrist/

Oh boy, we crossed 2 pages! But it’s mostly righties trolling or somehow still trying to blame this on libs. And the other thread may have had 4 pages. If a lib did this guarantee we’d be at 15+ by now.

Well based on the quote you replied to, it seems you are equating “out of control violence” with the Democrat party being out of power. Thanks for confirming

How what happens?

Trolling a thread where 4 people died and a church was attacked. GC righties are sick

I don’t really care, I’m not a child. Just think your hypocrisy is funny.

I remember when you whined about me tagging you in posts, lol

Good to see righties care about mental health issues all the sudden

I had a couple literal lol’s during this

Maybe we should replace high fructose corn syrup in Coca Cola with cane sugar. That should do the trick.

Let’s be clear on what DHS has stated. To my knowledge, it is just this, but someone correct me if I’m wrong: -He entered on a student visa in 1999 (maybe that was the first time he had legal status, but according to interviews from Roberts he said he lived in Brooklyn as a child). Again they never stated that he overstayed this. -He has an arrest and gun charge from 2020 (still no details on this other than a date, a mugshot and that it was via the Port Authority) -He was issued a final deportation order in 2024. -He fled a traffic stop and was arrested last week with the gun, knife, and cash. We don’t know for sure what his status was between 1999 and 2024, and for how much of that he was not legal. I thought one possibility is that maybe he was a citizen at one time, but maybe his marriage was ruled fraudulent. His lawyer does now seem to be implying he was never a citizen however: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/investigations/readers-watchdog/2025/09/29/case-for-des-moines-superintendent-ian-roberts-ice-deportation/86400083007/?taid=68da6dc9da1c960001cd41f4&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&sltsgmt=0154_D

I’m just trying to get all the facts. Weird to say I’m still defending him immediately after a post where I suggested he may have had a stolen SS number.

Considering the number of different public school jobs he held, Occam’s razor says he probably did get through some if not all of them. Maybe he was using a stolen SS # or something?

He had to have at least been paying taxes out of his paycheck. Lawyer Laura from the gaming chatroom claims he was actually having wages garnished from an unpaid debt. Although she does acknowledge not all these cases are probably him, since some just say “Ian” and some say “Ian A.” There are a few that specify “Ian Andre” though, including a paternity case and a lawsuit from a woman that was a track athlete at Morgan State. I will acknowledge as more comes out it’s not looking good for him, and I said from the beginning running from law enforcement wasn’t a good indication, and that it’s possible he was a fraudster. But I’m not going to apologize for not automatically taking DHS at their word, as they’ve proven to in the past to have made claims they think are factual that really aren’t. I’m surprised no one has pulled up records from the deportation hearings yet that I’ve seen, would be curious to read that.

The Des Moines district confirmed they completed the FBI check on him, although the background check company says they don’t check immigration status. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/education/2025/09/28/des-moines-public-schools-superintendent-background-check-ian-roberts/86375977007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z118065p117350n00----c00----e004200v118065b00xxxxd11xx65&gca-ft=9&gca-ds=sophi&sltsgmt=0154_D

Wasn’t his real name, he changed it