TimHauck

I watched it. Tim does not provide any evidence other than the comments from Miller that he was MS-13. In fact at one point Tim even calls him an “alleged” member of MS-13, so thanks for proving Tim agrees that the evidence of him being a gang member is questionable! As for Miller, all he says is ”Two immigration courts found him to be a member of MS-13.” One judge did, but it was based entirely on a criminal informant who was arrested at the same time and a form filled out by a cop who was later suspended. And even this judge said that documents presented by the prosecution were “at odds with each other.” The appeals court did not find him to be a member of MS-13, so Miller was incorrect there. They noted the previous “allegations” and denied the appeal because they say he did not prove he was not dangerous, but they did not say he was a member of MS-13. Here is the decision: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.11.2_3.pdf In addition, Miller’s focus on only the portion of the Supreme Court in their favor is absolutely laughable. He fails to mention the part about requiring an attempt to facilitate this man’s return. Lastly, Miller’s quote of “I’d promise you if he was your neighbor you would move right away” is absolutely grotesque, and might be the most racist thing I’ve ever heard a government official say in an official capacity. Here is a good article without political bias that includes most of the details including some mentioned above: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know If you prefer video, I don’t like leftist garbage either. My preferred source is Breaking Points, to hear both sides. But on this particular issue, even the conservative (Sagaar) acknowledges that this is a terrible look for the Trump admin, and a dangerous slippery slope. They read from the SC ruling directly, and also provide other examples of conservatives against this move, including multiple time Fox News guest Jonathan Turley who said there is a good defamation case against Miller by the dude who was fired for saying they made a mistake.

Can you link where “multiple courts labeled him as MS 13”? All I see is one cop who was later suspended did, which to my knowledge was the only evidence ever provided. How it started: we need to deport all these violent illegals that don’t want to work and contribute nothing to society! How it’s going: let’s deport this illegal that has a US citizen wife and kid, has been here for over a decade with no violent record and a steady job! For chrissake the reason he was “labeled a gang member” in the first place was because he was looking for work outside of Home Depot!

Wrong.

Yeah if that’s accurate all that stat means is only about 25% of Republicans support it, since all Democrats and Independents likely would. Weird coming from the people that loved to talk about slippery slopes…

Anyone who disagrees that they should do so doesn’t believe in our constitution.

To clarify, you think: You can't possibly believe that they weren't going to have little people in the movie. …. They could have just come right out and said "Peter we're not putting little people in the move" but they didn't.  Makes perfect sense? I’d suggest re-reading them, letting me know which way you meant, and apologizing.

Yes I agree, if the amount doesn’t change whether he’s there or not then I wouldn’t really count that as paying for him. That said, the fact that we’re paying them at all seems contradictory to the claim that “we can’t force them to send him back.” I’m sure if we withheld some payments they’d probably send him back pretty quickly.

Ok, that doesn’t answer my question though. Are we paying for him to be imprisoned there?

This post makes zero sense. You start by saying “you can’t possibly believe that they weren’t going to have little people in the movie” But end by saying “they could have just come right out and said we’re not putting little people in the movie.” Do you mean they should have responded to Dinklage that they’re “not NOT putting little people in the movie”? If so, newsflash, pretty much all of MAGA really thought they weren’t putting little people in the movie (well except for one), and thought Disney “replaced” the dwarves with the “7 diverse people,” as @EternalShinyAndChrome calls them. And he STILL thinks that was the plan. I did too originally but now realize the 7 diverse people were separate from the dwarves all along. In fact the second link you shared, which I already shared earlier, is proof of that. To be clear, Dinklage’s comments came out when there weren’t really specific details known yet other than some of the cast. So he was basically mad the movie was being made at all, and was just working off the assumption that dwarves would be involved. In fact he even said this: “He would enthusiastically support a more sensitive retelling of the 85-year-old film with a "cool, progressive spin on it" but wasn't otherwise convinced“ There is no evidence Disney changed anything based on Dinklage’s comments in particular since the rumors of the reshooting came out almost 2 years after his comments, and their response at the time even makes it seem like they had already been “consulting with members of the dwarfism community.”

Serious question: can non-legal residents get work permits?

Maybe you should move there

True, we probably shouldn’t expect laws to be followed here if they’re actually going to blatantly disregard the constitution by trying to have him run for a third term.

Wait, if the guy is a citizen of El Salvador and they won’t send him back, then why are we paying them to keep him there? Where is DOGE when you need them?

Also, the only thing I was “searching” for was reviews of the movie, found that dude with 2M YouTube subscribers (I’d assume you know him considering you claim to be a movie expert), and despite absolutely trashing the movie he pointed out that the Bandits were completely separate from the dwarves - and the male love interest was one of them (which made 8 total, but being a straight white male many of the anti-woke commenters cropped him out of the photo), more evidence that they were planned to be in the movie the whole time. So I just thought it was funny to see yet another example of MAGA being duped by fake news.

@EternalShinyAndChrome, do you think Dinklage’s criticism was about not having actual little people play the dwarves?

There weren’t even 7 bandits, people cropped the picture

I proved I was right, @EternalShinyAndChrome just doesn’t believe it

There weren’t even 7 bandits, people cropped the picture lolololol. And the link I just provided was from 2022 before the picture went viral. But you are welcome to prove me wrong with something other than “people are saying.” Unlike most here I admit when I’m wrong.

Here’s an article from 2022 confirming Disney was looking for “voice actors” for the “magical creatures.” AKA they were always going to be CGI. https://www.thewrap.com/snow-white-peter-dinklage-disney-response/ @EternalShinyAndChrome, will you admit you were wrong?

Well apparently there was a whole thread about it which got deleted, so not sure what if any proof was in there. Here is the thread about that one being deleted - I do vaguely remember the discussion, but IIRC, the “proof” was all stuff like this article, which was just a bunch of skyscreaming from conservatives based on a picture, with no proof that those people were actually replacing the dwarves. TBH I think I even fell for it initially. https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/disneys-live-action-snow-white-under-fire-for-replacing-seven-dwarfs/ In fact, in October 2023 you even said a tweet shared by @Reality from Benny Johnson “appears to be a complete fabrication.” And that “They literally just released a trailer for it yesterday or the day before. The only thing they've done is moved it to 2025 now, instead of 2024. I couldn't find any links, but maybe you have some?“ No surprise that @Reality was once again reading from his script without doubting anything he’s told. But I don’t see any links after that. In fact even searching the words “Snow White” from you only returns 3 total results all in the last month. So yes, please link confirmation that the 7 diverse folks were replacing the dwarves. Because all I see is evidence the bandits and dwarves were 2 separate groups.

Lol. You’re the one that’s revising history and just straight making stuff up. Please provide a link that that’s what happened. That’s what MAGA thinks happened because they saw a photo. Dinklage’s comments were in January 2022. It’s clear that his comments are actually saying that he doesn’t like the fact that dwarves are in the movie at all: You’re progressive in one way, but then you’re still making that f*cking backward story about seven dwarfs living in a cave together? What the f*ck are you doing, man? So if anything, the 7 “diverse” people would have been a better response to his criticism because then it wouldn’t be stereotyping dwarves. All signs point to that those people were always “bandits” from the beginning, but MAGA jumped to conclusions yet again.

Yeah I made a thread about this before I even knew they were making a movie about it. It was more in jest in response to whacko conservatives trying to ban harmless Childrens books (no they aren’t all harmless but many are), but when you think about it, the original Snow White story is pretty outdated and not politically correct, even by pre-“woke mob” standards IMO.

Wait, was the viral photo of the “dwarves” cropped to remove the normal looking white dude, who was also one of the bandits and a central character in the movie? MAGA overreaction confirmed. https://x.com/Jebus/status/1681660986657218566

And here’s an article from way before that in 2022. People thought “a different approach” was the 7 LGBTQ things but it was really just CGI. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/peter-dinklage-disney-responds-snow-white-criticism-1235080612/

Here is evidence they were always the Bandits (from around the time the photo was going viral): https://x.com/MyTimeToShineH/status/1696267450596131009 I’m sure they did take out some woke stuff, but looks to me like the 7 LGBTQ things were always planned to be in addition to the dwarves. Yet another example of MAGA claiming they “were right” despite getting a major fact wrong.