bgsgfan

I haven't been active recently, but I took part in this league the first year and it was a blast! More so than other leagues, being a good and active trader is very important. There was a kid on our team that year with the handle Da Bomb. He was maybe the best trader I ever saw in action. Anywho, good luck to whoever gets in this and maybe I will throw my hat in the ring next year.

Wheaton= highest floor Rogers= best chance of being PPR relevant Coates= highest ceiling based on being deep threat Its not that these guys are bad receivers, its a great group. The problem is that for FF purposes there isn't a #2 guy. Rogers is too much like AB. Sammie Coates is not as good this year as Bryant was last year. Wheaton is boring, but has a higher floor than the other 2 (on another team and the right circumstances he could be a solid ff WR2). All 3 are more valuable in keeper/dynasty leagues than redrafts. I wouldn't rank any WR in top 50 this week (other than AB), although Rogers and Coates may have good games. Pit COULD try to establish either as part of game plan. DHB is the WR that should benefit most from Wheaton's absence because he is only guy with seasoning that can play that role. But no no no do not add him to roster. Now, God help me for saying this, if AB gets injured both Wheaton and Rogers will take a big jump.

Markus Wheaton is solid but unspectacular (usually). Even as a homer, I would not draft him. The problem is that his ceiling is not very high. Meanwhile, in Coates and Rogers, Pit has 2 WRs with very high ceilings. Coates has been continuously touted by the press covering training camp and finally showed something in preseason week 3. Eli Rogers looks like an Antonio Brown clone. I like both of them as late round flyers, Even for a top-flight offense you have just a ton of guys who will get thrown the ball, in addition to the above: DHB, Green, Jesse James, Bell, and DeAngelo Williams all will get thrown the rock. Wheaton's fantasy value should be as a waiver pickup when you are not looking for a huge splash, just some production.

Assuming 10 teams Drafted 8th round:WR Roy Williams - Lions: cost 5th round Drafted 11th round(actually 2003 14th round): WR Steve Smith - Panthers: cost 8th round Drafted 16th round: WR Antonio Bryant - Browns: cost 13th round

Monday night is better for me, but either night will work. I would like to see the number of teams clarified as it has a huge impact on keepers.

10 teams vs 14 teams totally changes the keeper aspect. I'd prefer keeping it at 14, but if we change it to 10 we need to have everyone verify keepers. Are we going to draft at MFL again?

I am in agreement with Dan. We need to get going on this if we are to actually have a league this year. Welcome (tentatively) aboard Q Laz!

Here is the 2004 Draft. I don't see anything with final rosters.

OK, whats going on? Are we going to do this? When, where, who? Me personally, I say the sooner the better. And lets definitely do it - I promise more chatter this year, if that helps

I'm in! Steel Buckles Any draft plans yet? Personally, my schedule is pretty open if we want to try a live draft. I just need to know about a week and a half in advance. Maybe easiest to just use MFL, but I'd suggest an aggressive draft pick timer.

Looks great! Ummm, you have spelling and everything OK for my previous (and future) championship, right?

bgsgfan Steel Buckles bgsgfan@yahoo.com

***subject to change Drafted 8th round:WR Roy Williams - Lions: cost 5th round Drafted 11th round(actually 2003 14th round): WR Steve Smith - Panthers: cost 8th round Drafted 15th round: QB Ben Roethlisberger - Steelers: cost 12th round Drafted 16th round: WR Antonio Bryant - Browns: cost 13th round Drafted 17th round: WR Jabar Gaffney - Texans: cost 14th round Drafted 18th round: WR Terry Glenn - Cowboys: Cost 15th round This is assuming we have 14 teams again this year. If anyone wants any of those last 3 WRs, let me know (bgsgfan@yahoo.com). They are a slight bargain based on how the draft went last year and my expectations for them this year but I am not attached to any of them. A slight draft improvement can get any of the 3 (for Bryant, a 12th round pick; Gaffney, a better 14th round pick; Glenn, a 13th round pick). I know they are bums, but to put it into perspective, last year through 12 rounds 54 WRs were taken; through 13, 61; and through 14, 64.

Wind blows. Crickets chirp.

Who is/was your extra player for this week???? Remember, both Super Bowl teams get/got one.

Thanks - I need a bunch of it.

Larry Croom at RB. Antonio Bryant at WR. New Orleans at Def (I am not using the NYJ against my Steelers). Oh yeah... I am also taking on the not-so Meek and Cowardly... who get an extra player (deservedly). This could be ugly. Good luck Walt (even though you don't need it).

If you go by first half production, Pro got the better of this one. I see Bruce returning to earth, though... so Dan wins. Good job getting rid of a player that has overperformed. Its pretty even though actually.

I've never reallly been much of a smack talker or a trader. Personally I'd hate to see this league go. If you want some smack... I think the real reason you guys want to bail is that you saw my draft. Check this out and what it means for me next year (and beyond). round 8 - Roy Williams round 11 - Steve Smith round 15 - Ben Roethlisberger I can't wait to win this thing again this year... then build a dynasty with my team next year. Thats allright, ###### out if you want.

Lots of bye week players are getting played. I like my wins to be real. This is almost looking like a public yahoo league.

I appreciate your comments Dan. Some of the things you said are almost scary-similar to the way I thought. 1. I had targetted Aaron Brooks and Trent Green, but fell a few picks short of Brooks. 2. I figured going early for TE, K, and D made sense with the keeper format we have. Hopefully everyone forgets this by the time next year's draft roles around. 3. I am worried I will have to dump a potential keeper when I pick up my bye week replacement for D, K, and TE. I don't think you slammed me enough for being weak at RB - I think I'll have to be lucky to be third.

Hmmm, I probably should have waited until my turn to draft to ask.

I don't see him on draft report or on the roster page, but when I search for him it says Probie has him.

You were 2001, I was 2002. Sounds good. What about the shipping cost this year for Probie to mail it to me at the end of the season?