GobbleDog

I assume many of those 50 were commander's soldiers/supporters, but probably not all. Tough decisions: target importance -vs- innocent casualties Israel - damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Putin wants a time machine more than anyone alive. Jan 2022 and everything would be great. Meeting with world leaders, international travel, big speeches, hanging with celebrities, boasting about the "great army", economy ok, living the dream with billions to play with. Two months later he's persona non grata, an international war criminal, army looks like a joke, economy on the brink, dodging cou-de-tas, regime in question... oops

Thursday, the Islamic Regime in Iran will become Chair of the U.N. Human Rights Council Social Forum. The U.N. is increasingly a joke.

I read all 7. Don't know the answers to those. Some strange, some ya wonder credibility... Oswald acted alone.

Early 2000's, Snook Dog and Red Hot Chili Peppers toured together and played Orlando... I've ever-since regretted turning down those free tickets. Not a huge Snoop fan, but still would've been cool.

I can't explain every "what about the grassy knoll?" stuff. I just believe Oswald acted alone. I will say the idea that Ruby was given an assassination order is ridiculous. He casually stopped at a few places before meandering over to the police station - leaving his DOG in the car, where Oswald was supposed to have to left more than a half-hour earlier. Luckiest assassination all time.

Beastie Boys on the Check Your Head tour in 1992. Played a small venue in Orlando and they rocked the joint.

JFK released when I was 20 y.o. I fell for it... years later I saw documentaries showing how the movie was total BS. I felt like chump for believing Oliver Stone made a "true story" and joining nut-job conspirators. Oswald did it. Ruby was an idiot.

Every country compares itself to other countries... gun violence rates, GDP, or whatever. You're implying "different demographics" or "different economics" makes comparison with US impossible. I disagree, but which is it?

I give ya credit for citing cases. Sounds like ya know what you're talking about. I will say the SCOTUS ain't the "stone" it was (probably should be), changes happen.

All those words, ya never said what "the "Bruen ruling" was about? Thought maybe an old case about a product being banned deprived the public somehow. To be honest, my dad is a retired respected attorney. I once gave him my "ban commercial fire arms" idea. Also said "that might be unconstitutional." Didn't cite rulings. I don't know if it could pass constitutional mustard or not... probably doesn't matter, it'd never pass political mustard. Unfortunate because it's the most rational/effective plan given the situation. Ain't no "taking guns" in America. Make them guns rare and worth lots of money.

I wish these threads stuck to opinions and news about the story, possibly an occasional macabre joke (better be real damn funny considering this atrocity). Instead it's Trump vs Biden, gun debates, and KSB vs Worms.

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Depends who's on SCOTUS. They keep ridiculously changing rulings and definitions.... for once it might do some good.

Cliff Notes: "I have no solution, so let's ignore how the normal world lives." "Most gun violence happens in inner-cities anyway." "With mass shootings, sometimes there's a fixable reason." "Don't take guns."

I mention it because it's the only solution. But you're right, it's politically unrealistic and won't happen. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. If ya have the time, I'd love to hear your solution. Whatcha got? Even if it's politically unrealistic. I don't care, let's hear it. How could/should the U.S. get gun violence rates consistent with other first world countries? Or do we just have to live with carnage?

It was hypothetical. Ya like to dance.

Why is it always the gun-righers who take the debate to a personal level? I was just discussing it, but I should go f*** myself for even disagreeing. Interestingly, all other first world countries who have strict gun laws - Australia, France, Japan, UK, Spain, etc. None of those governments have "turned itself on the population." ??? How could that be? Ya need a better argument. And try to keep it civil, kid.

Fine, "is there ANY SCENARIO in which you'd favor TOTAL gun control?" I already know your answer - no. Don't feel bad, every gun righter "thinks" that way.

Ban commercial firearm sales. Keep and bear whatever you got. Go buy as many as you want on the private market, but no new guns. Twenty, thirty years down the line... gun values skyrocket and slowly get removed from circulation through gun collectors purchases, government buy-backs, time itself takes care of some. The first to sell - the poor, the one's committing most gun violence anyway. Don't even have to amend the Constitution. It's a beautiful plan. But it's politically unrealistic. Instead the US will take 100+ years of baby steps with do-nothing laws until they finally ban them. Gonna be a lot of carnage until then.

Absolutely wrong. If ya asked me "Hypothetically, if US gun violence rates were consistent or even close to consistent with other first world countries, then would you favor gun control?" To which I'd say "No." HOWEVER, "the problem with people like you" (gun righters) is there's zero reasoning. If you ask them "Hypothetically, if gun violence rates were twice has high as they are now, then would you favor gun control?" No. "Ten times higher?" No. "One hundred times higher?" No. "Is there any scenario in which you'd favor gun control?" No. We just want guns no matter what. How can you intelligently discuss anything with people who think like that?

7 pages trying to figure out how to keep guns AND reduce gun violence rates. Better background checks, national gun registrations, ban certain types of guns, lock up mentally ill, cops on every street corner, ban violent movies and music, etc... anything to keep our precious guns. Gun rights & low gun violence rates cannot coexist. Either keep the guns and learn to stomach unconscionable carnage (which Americans have), or give up the guns. One of the other. Any other discussion is pointless.

Jeesh, don't go overboard. I said it was sad. It's like Palestinians voting Hamas to power, and then unexpected consequences. "We need Hamas to keep us safe! Oops." That's not ironic? Sad, but ironic.

Be ironic if everyone killed was a gun-rights supporter. Sad, but ironic.

Hush yo mouth