WKTSWAY 0 Posted January 14, 2007 OK, I am in a dynasty league where we keep our whole roster from year to year. We have 3 rookie draft picks each year and I have the #2 pick since I had the 2nd worst team this year. It is a point per reception league and my team is in my sig. There is a player who made the play-offs this year who really wants my 1.02 pick (he would get Peterson or Lynch)...he said he was willing to trade anyone on his eam in the deal. Do you see any fair deals I could make that would also improve my team? Here is his roster: Anderson, Derek CLE QB (I) Brooks, Aaron OAK QB Feeley, A.J. PHI QB Garcia, Jeff PHI QB Gradkowski, Bruce TBB QB McNabb, Donovan PHI QB (I) * Perkins, Ray SDC RB Barlow, Kevan NYJ RB Bell, Mike DEN RB Faulk, Kevin NEP RB Parker, Willie PIT RB Chambers, Chris MIA WR Copper, Terrance NOS WR Driver, Donald GBP WR Holt, Torry STL WR Kennison, Eddie KCC WR Moulds, Eric HOU WR Williams, Reggie JAC WR Wilson, Cedrick PIT WR Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE Wilson, Kris KCC TE Vinatieri, Adam IND PK Wilkins, Jeff STL PK Injured Reserve Jones, Greg JAC RB Portis, Clinton WAS RB Thanks for the help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted January 15, 2007 OK, I am in a dynasty league where we keep our whole roster from year to year. We have 3 rookie draft picks each year and I have the #2 pick since I had the 2nd worst team this year. It is a point per reception league and my team is in my sig. There is a player who made the play-offs this year who really wants my 1.02 pick (he would get Peterson or Lynch)...he said he was willing to trade anyone on his eam in the deal. Do you see any fair deals I could make that would also improve my team? Here is his roster: Anderson, Derek CLE QB (I) Brooks, Aaron OAK QB Feeley, A.J. PHI QB Garcia, Jeff PHI QB Gradkowski, Bruce TBB QB McNabb, Donovan PHI QB (I) * Perkins, Ray SDC RB Barlow, Kevan NYJ RB Bell, Mike DEN RB Faulk, Kevin NEP RB Parker, Willie PIT RB Chambers, Chris MIA WR Copper, Terrance NOS WR Driver, Donald GBP WR Holt, Torry STL WR Kennison, Eddie KCC WR Moulds, Eric HOU WR Williams, Reggie JAC WR Wilson, Cedrick PIT WR Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE Wilson, Kris KCC TE Vinatieri, Adam IND PK Wilkins, Jeff STL PK Injured Reserve Jones, Greg JAC RB Portis, Clinton WAS RB Thanks for the help! You know what? I dont see a lot here. It may be worth your while to ask for McNabb or Willie Parker, but I wouldnt expect him to make that deal. I think you have a great choice of top end players with the #2 overall pick. Most of his best players are too old and dont have the value based on their age. I would probably just tell him I have no interest in trading unless he makes you an offer that's so good you'd be dumb to decline it. then if he really wants it, he will make you an offer. And the longer you wait, the more he will want your pick... If he wants the pick bad enough, he will keep increasing his offer. and you can do yourself a favour by seeing if there is anyone else in the market for this draft pick as well. once you have competing offers, you will get better value for what you are trading away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKTSWAY 0 Posted January 16, 2007 You know what? I dont see a lot here. It may be worth your while to ask for McNabb or Willie Parker, but I wouldnt expect him to make that deal. I think you have a great choice of top end players with the #2 overall pick. Most of his best players are too old and dont have the value based on their age. I would probably just tell him I have no interest in trading unless he makes you an offer that's so good you'd be dumb to decline it. then if he really wants it, he will make you an offer. And the longer you wait, the more he will want your pick... If he wants the pick bad enough, he will keep increasing his offer. and you can do yourself a favour by seeing if there is anyone else in the market for this draft pick as well. once you have competing offers, you will get better value for what you are trading away. Thanks...He offered Chambers and Scheffler for the pick (I really like Scheffler). Obviously I think I should get more for it. So you think Wille Parker for the pick straight up would be a good deal for me? Maybe if I try Parker and Scheffler for the pick? Or do you think I should not try to trade with him because Lynch or Peterson will be better than any of his? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted January 16, 2007 Thanks...He offered Chambers and Scheffler for the pick (I really like Scheffler). Obviously I think I should get more for it. So you think Wille Parker for the pick straight up would be a good deal for me? Maybe if I try Parker and Scheffler for the pick? Or do you think I should not try to trade with him because Lynch or Peterson will be better than any of his? Yeah, I think you should get more for a #2 overall pick. You are getting decent value in willie parker, but I see that you have two premium RB's in McGahee and Rudi Johnston, so I dont know if this trade would give you maximum value for your money.... Same Goes for QB. with Carson Palmer as your #1, McNabb is at best your 1A QB and he's getting on in age and has shown signs of being injury prone. (much as I like the guy, I have to call a spade a spade) at least if you draft a top end RB or QB, he has time to grow into the role because you have players in your lineup right now who can get the job done. This is primarily why I recommend just using the draft pick. Your premium prospects that you can acquire with the top 2 or 3 picks should be good enough to be a franchise player 2 to 3 years down the road... As such, my opinion is that you should use your draft pick for yourself Unless you get an offer that is WAY TOO GOOD to say no to (ie. a player or players who give you a good chance to win it all next year or two). So the question you need to ask yourself is this: is Willie parker the kind of player that can put you over the top so that you win it all next year or two? I'm not so sure that he is. Although you'd be guaranteed to have a good season because your depth at RB will be tough to deny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ocramfan 0 Posted January 19, 2007 Keep the pick...unless he will go Holt and Schockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKTSWAY 0 Posted January 19, 2007 Here's another team who has been trying to trade with me... he offered Ronnie Brown for the pick, and I told him I had already had better offers than that. Do you see anything here? I like Addai a lot but I don't know if he would be willing to trade him.If you think that's a good trade, would it just be Addai for the #2 pick straight up? Bledsoe, Drew DAL QB Brees, Drew NOS QB Bulger, Marc STL QB Campbell, Jason WAS QB Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB Addai, Joseph IND RB Bell, Tatum DEN RB Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Hicks, Maurice SFO RB Jackson, Steven STL RB Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Colston, Marques NOS WR Jackson, Vincent SDC WR McCardell, Keenan SDC WR Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR Stallworth, Donte' PHI WR Taylor, Travis MIN WR Ward, Hines PIT WR White, Roddy ATL WR Anderson, Courtney OAK TE Johnson, Eric SFO TE Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE Wiggins, Jermaine MIN TE Brown, Josh SEA PK Kasay, John CAR PK Jurevicius, Joe CLE WR (IR) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted January 20, 2007 Here's another team who has been trying to trade with me... he offered Ronnie Brown for the pick, and I told him I had already had better offers than that. Do you see anything here? I like Addai a lot but I don't know if he would be willing to trade him.If you think that's a good trade, would it just be Addai for the #2 pick straight up? Bledsoe, Drew DAL QB Brees, Drew NOS QB Bulger, Marc STL QB Campbell, Jason WAS QB Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB Addai, Joseph IND RB Bell, Tatum DEN RB Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Hicks, Maurice SFO RB Jackson, Steven STL RB Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Colston, Marques NOS WR Jackson, Vincent SDC WR McCardell, Keenan SDC WR Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR Stallworth, Donte' PHI WR Taylor, Travis MIN WR Ward, Hines PIT WR White, Roddy ATL WR Anderson, Courtney OAK TE Johnson, Eric SFO TE Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE Wiggins, Jermaine MIN TE Brown, Josh SEA PK Kasay, John CAR PK Jurevicius, Joe CLE WR (IR) Well, No player here really stands out. Ronnie Brown is a good acquisition as I think he was just getting on track when he got hurt... but his problem is that the O-Line in Miami isnt that good. Ronnie is a premium talent, there is no doubting that... but unless Miami acuires or drafts a top end O Lineman, his upside will remain limited. I like him better than parker, but because this year has been so bad for him, you should ask for something else in return. I like Colston... but I doubt he'd part with both Colston and Brown to get that draft pick. Jackson (WR from the chargers) has a lot of potential as well. but if you go with Brown and Jackson, I think you also need to get something else in return (ie. a draft pick) I'd say Browns value based on last season(which was crappy) and due to his injury status would be a late first round pick. YOu may trade him your first for Brown and his first (if he wants to go that route) I think the value there would still be decent. And if you do your homework before the draft, you should still get a pretty good prospect with that first round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffkomlo 19 Posted January 21, 2007 What about Portis and Holt for pick from one team or Colston and Ward from other team. Looks like you need help at WR. Your RBs are decent. If not then grab C. Johnson with 1.02 pick to help you or grab Peterson and then make trade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bunnerjk 0 Posted January 24, 2007 What about Portis and Holt for pick from one team or Colston and Ward from other team. Looks like you need help at WR. Your RBs are decent. If not then grab C. Johnson with 1.02 pick to help you or grab Peterson and then make trade Portis and Holt????? I'am pretty sure he won't do that deal unless he does a lot of drugs!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted January 24, 2007 Here's another team who has been trying to trade with me... he offered Ronnie Brown for the pick, and I told him I had already had better offers than that. Do you see anything here? I like Addai a lot but I don't know if he would be willing to trade him.If you think that's a good trade, would it just be Addai for the #2 pick straight up? Bledsoe, Drew DAL QB Brees, Drew NOS QB Bulger, Marc STL QB Campbell, Jason WAS QB Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB Addai, Joseph IND RB Bell, Tatum DEN RB Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Hicks, Maurice SFO RB Jackson, Steven STL RB Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Colston, Marques NOS WR Jackson, Vincent SDC WR McCardell, Keenan SDC WR Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR Stallworth, Donte' PHI WR Taylor, Travis MIN WR Ward, Hines PIT WR White, Roddy ATL WR Anderson, Courtney OAK TE Johnson, Eric SFO TE Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE Wiggins, Jermaine MIN TE Brown, Josh SEA PK Kasay, John CAR PK Jurevicius, Joe CLE WR (IR) what about rudi and your pick for stephen jackson? I like that move. jdon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted January 27, 2007 what about rudi and your pick for stephen jackson? I like that move. jdon ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww jackson is hardly worth more than rudi.....PLUS the #2? what the ######. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toppshelff 0 Posted January 29, 2007 IMHO, you are significantly overvaluing pick 1.02. Assuming that AD goes to Cle and Lynch goes to GB (probably most likely and best scenario for each), I'd take Parker, RBrown or Portis for a 1.02, no sweat. I'd probably make the deal proposed above for SJax if I could. I'd seriously consider Addai at 1.02 even. Now if Lynch goes to Denver, maybe that's worth a bit more. However, I also believe that you should maximize what you can get for it. Seems it has hot value in your league, so push these guys against each other. I just wouldn't walk away given what has already been offered. I own 1.03, 1.04, 1.5 and 1.14 in my 4-keeper league. I'd trade any of these picks for the guys above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKTSWAY 0 Posted January 30, 2007 Well, I decided to trade my pick for Addai. I've loved Addai since before last year, and hopefully he will continue to do well in the years ahead. Even though I may have had some technically better offers, I like Addai best out of the backs I could have traded the pick straight up for. Thanks a lot for all the help guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted January 31, 2007 IMHO, you are significantly overvaluing pick 1.02. Assuming that AD goes to Cle and Lynch goes to GB (probably most likely and best scenario for each), I'd take Parker, RBrown or Portis for a 1.02, no sweat. I'd probably make the deal proposed above for SJax if I could. I'd seriously consider Addai at 1.02 even. Now if Lynch goes to Denver, maybe that's worth a bit more. However, I also believe that you should maximize what you can get for it. Seems it has hot value in your league, so push these guys against each other. I just wouldn't walk away given what has already been offered. I own 1.03, 1.04, 1.5 and 1.14 in my 4-keeper league. I'd trade any of these picks for the guys above. Hey man, I'm not saying that Ronnie brown isnt a good acquisition, but in dealing with the man, you have to mention that Ronnie's bad season makes him a risk. based on market value, I think if you are trading the #2 overall pick, you should try to get Ronnie + a mid round pick in return. I think Ronnie straight up for the #2 pick overall is one of those deals that is a break even proposition. You are probably getting a player of similar calibre. One other thing to make note of: Ricky Williams will be back in Miami next year unless miami makes a trade of sorts. This will cut into Brown's carries somewhat. I dont expect Williams to steal his job, but if they want to trade him, they need to play him to prove he is worth something. this decreases browns value. I'd make a deal to acquire Brown, I would just ask for a little more. And you know how it is... if you dont ask, you dont get. if he says no, you can always just trade for Brown Straight up if you have to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
douceyve 0 Posted January 31, 2007 I think you got great value in Addai. Congrats... Please see mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
