Uh-huh 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Really? I love how Sooner does not provide any evidence to his information and oversimplifies things. He fits in well with your style of posting. Interesting. I also find it interesting in your desire to claim that someone is OWNED regardless of whether what they say is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted March 16, 2007 Please don't embarrass yourself any more. You said that Clinton "wouldn't have perjured himself" if not hauled before Congress. That is just unbelievably wrong. Just man up and admit it rather than try to spin it. And how am I deflecting? I am just trying to educate you a little. It's hard to do that, granted. Oh, and the Paula Jones case was settled with a hefty payment from Big Bill, not "dismissed". How about a little education for you... The case was dismissed by a Judge after several attempts to revive it. Look it up. You can try to think that you are so smart and you are "educating me", but you have provided no evidence other than your own words. With the first round of the NCAA tournament going on, the last thing that I want to deal with is your drivel. Provide your "facts" and then I can admit that I am wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soonerman 0 Posted March 16, 2007 How about a little education for you... The case was dismissed by a Judge after several attempts to revive it. Look it up. You can try to think that you are so smart and you are "educating me", but you have provided no evidence other than your own words. With the first round of the NCAA tournament going on, the last thing that I want to deal with is your drivel. Provide your "facts" and then I can admit that I am wrong. How can I post evidence of something that never happened except in your imagination? Once again, you said that Clinton would not have perjured himself if he wasn't "hauled before Congress". He perjured himself in a civil deposition that Congress had nothing whatsoever to do with. What's so hard to understand about that? To be fair, on your other point, the Jones case was dismissed pending appeal. While on appeal, Clinton settled with a big payday for Jones. So the dismissal was never final, but Clinton bought his way out of the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 16, 2007 Really? I love how Sooner does not provide any evidence to his information and oversimplifies things. He fits in well with your style of posting. Interesting. I also find it interesting in your desire to claim that someone is OWNED regardless of whether what they say is true. Nice spin. Now explain why you claimed I had my ass handed to me despite the fact I haven't been posting in this thread. And I claim I own you just because of that, what you said is clearly a lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted March 16, 2007 Nice spin. Now explain why you claimed I had my ass handed to me despite the fact I haven't been posting in this thread. And I claim I own you just because of that, what you said is clearly a lie. I might have been wrong on that one (I still have not checked). But hell, you have your a$$ handed to you in every thread, it is a very easy mistake to make. How can I post evidence of something that never happened except in your imagination? Once again, you said that Clinton would not have perjured himself if he wasn't "hauled before Congress". He perjured himself in a civil deposition that Congress had nothing whatsoever to do with. What's so hard to understand about that? To be fair, on your other point, the Jones case was dismissed pending appeal. While on appeal, Clinton settled with a big payday for Jones. So the dismissal was never final, but Clinton bought his way out of the case. He allegedly perjured himself up to that point in a civil deposition that: 1. A judge dismissed long before Congress called him to testify about 2. Was pertaining an affair that was declared inadmissable in that civil case (i.e. the judge said that an affair with Lewinsky was inadmissable in the claim by Jones) 3. Would have had no repercussions if Starr and Gingrich (both of questionable character) had not pushed the issue, which is the point of this thread (in case you have forgotten). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 16, 2007 How about a little education for you... The case was dismissed by a Judge after several attempts to revive it. Look it up. Mebbe you should look it up. Clinton was fined $75,000 and disbarred as a result of that case. Doesn't sound like it was "dismissed" to me. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your rantings at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted March 16, 2007 Mebbe you should look it up. Clinton was fined $75,000 and disbarred as a result of that case. Doesn't sound like it was "dismissed" to me. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your rantings at this point. He was fined (only $25k) and disbarred due to statements he made about Lewinsky and that was done as part of an agreement to settle the case. The "case" we were talking about was related to Paula Jones. I know that Clinton was banging a bunch of (ugly) chicks during that period, but I figured that even a retard like you could keep up with which one we were speaking. Keep deflecting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soonerman 0 Posted March 16, 2007 He allegedly perjured himself up to that point in a civil deposition that: 1. A judge dismissed long before Congress called him to testify about 2. Was pertaining an affair that was declared inadmissable in that civil case (i.e. the judge said that an affair with Lewinsky was inadmissable in the claim by Jones) 3. Would have had no repercussions if Starr and Gingrich (both of questionable character) had not pushed the issue, which is the point of this thread (in case you have forgotten). 1. Congress didn't call Clinton to testify. I don't believe they even have the power to compel a President to testify. 3. Janet Reno requested Starr to investigate the perjury. Quit spinning. It is quite simple, Congress had nothing to do with Clinton committing perjury. He did it well before anyone in Congress had anything at all to do with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted March 16, 2007 1. Congress didn't call Clinton to testify. I don't believe they even have the power to compel a President to testify. 3. Janet Reno requested Starr to investigate the perjury. Quit spinning. It is quite simple, Congress had nothing to do with Clinton committing perjury. He did it well before anyone in Congress had anything at all to do with it. Do you honestly believe that Congress, in general, and Gingrich, in particular, had nothing to do with the $60M that was spent on this investigation? Congress forced impeachment hearings which was what I was speaking about. Let me know when you want to get back to defending Gingrich, because I have no desire to defend Clinton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soonerman 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Do you honestly believe that Congress, in general, and Gingrich, in particular, had nothing to do with the $60M that was spent on this investigation? Congress forced impeachment hearings which was what I was speaking about. Let me know when you want to get back to defending Gingrich, because I have no desire to defend Clinton. Link to me defending Gingrich? I could not care less about either of those dirtbags, I just cannot believe you keep defending your statement that Clinton would not have perjured himself if not "hauled before Congress". The only reason Congress was interested in this at all was because the perjury already freaking happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 16, 2007 Congress forced impeachment hearings which was what I was speaking about. Let me know when you want to get back to defending Gingrich, because I have no desire to defend Clinton. First of all, Clinton didn't testify in the impeachment hearings, so your lie about Congress forcing Clinton to lie is false. Second, you have lamely been trying to defend Clinton since I have been involved in this thread. Anything else you want to lie about? He was fined (only $25k) and disbarred due to statements he made about Lewinsky and that was done as part of an agreement to settle the case. The "case" we were talking about was related to Paula Jones. I know that Clinton was banging a bunch of (ugly) chicks during that period, but I figured that even a retard like you could keep up with which one we were speaking. Keep deflecting. LMFAO You should really log off and go watch some basketball. [edit] Conclusion of case Before the case reached trial, Judge Susan Webber Wright granted President Clinton's motion for summary judgment, ruling that Jones could not show that she had suffered any damages, even if her claim of sexual harassment were otherwise proven. Jones appealed the dismissal to a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, where, at oral argument, two of the three judges on the panel appeared sympathetic to her arguments.[3] On November 13, 1998, Clinton settled with Jones for $850,000, the entire amount of her claim, but without an apology, in exchange for her agreement to drop the appeal. All but $151,000 went to pay, what were by then, considerable legal expenses. Before the end of the entire litigation, her marriage broke apart. In April 1999, Judge Wright found President Clinton in civil contempt of court for misleading testimony in the Jones case. She ordered Clinton to pay Jones $91,000 for the expenses incurred as the result of Clinton's evasive and misleading answers. [4] Wright then referred Clinton's conduct to the Arkansas Bar for disciplinary action, and on January 19, 2001, the day before President Clinton left the White House, Clinton entered into an agreement with the Arkansas Bar and Independent Counsel Robert Ray under which Clinton consented to a five-year suspension of his law license. [5] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted March 16, 2007 50+ posts and no report on how big her cans are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 16, 2007 I might have been wrong on that one (I still have not checked). You have had an hour and a half to find out if you were lying through your teeth. Come up with anything yet to defend yourself with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted March 16, 2007 Link to me defending Gingrich? I could not care less about either of those dirtbags, I just cannot believe you keep defending your statement that Clinton would not have perjured himself if not "hauled before Congress". The only reason Congress was interested in this at all was because the perjury already freaking happened. I know that you stand on the sidelines on quite a few things and only interject when you think that there is an opportunity to twist things. I do not believe that Clinton would have had any consequences of alleged perjury (bear in mind that he has never been convicted) if not for a hypocritical Newt Gingrich. I think that you may want to recheck your thinking if you think that your area in bold was the only reason that Congress was interested. Congress (and Gingrich) were interested purely for political gain. Nothing else. As I stated before, Clinton lied and was wrong in doing so. Gingrich was a hypocrite in going after Clinton in this case because he was guilty of the same thing. That was the entire point of this thread. You and RP can try to make it into something else, but I have had enough of your drivel for the night. You have had an hour and a half to find out if you were lying through your teeth. Come up with anything yet to defend yourself with? You can make it a year and a half. I am not going to waste my time on looking back on it for you. I will let you have that small victory since you apparently have very little going on in your life to feel good about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soonerman 0 Posted March 16, 2007 I know that you stand on the sidelines on quite a few things and only interject when you think that there is an opportunity to twist things. I do not believe that Clinton would have had any consequences of alleged perjury (bear in mind that he has never been convicted) if not for a hypocritical Newt Gingrich. What a troll. I just pointed out that your post was simply not true as a matter of historical record. You can man up and admit it or not. As to me "standing on the sidelines"...What the flipping hell does that mean? If by "twisting" things, you mean pointing out where you are grossly wrong, well then, I plead guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites