Nikethemutt 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Picked up Vince Young as my QB in the 5th round (drafting from the 12th of 12 spots, I went WR, WR, RB, RB with my first 4 picks....WTF was I thinking??? ) Anyhoo, on my way to work this morning, I flipped past a local radio station WDVE in Pittsburgh where Merrill Hoge was just totally ripping apart Vince Young. Dammit! My season's over before it started. I've since come to learn that Hoge has been a hugely Anti-Vince for quite some time. While his points sounded reasonable, it does seem that he's beating this drum for a bit too long. So what do I do with Vince? Start him every game or bench him and chalk it up to a blown 5th round pick??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffsmack 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Depends on who your backup is, but I think he'll do alright provided he doesn't get hit by the Madden curse. He doesn't have much help on the team though, so you'll probably get good rushing yards, and maybe not so much on passing from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted September 6, 2007 I think Vince Young is going to be great. I just dont know if its this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheeseboy 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Rule #1, don't question Merrill Hoge! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Hoge has been ripping Young since last season. That didn't stop Young from getting the Titans 7 wins in the last half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coalter 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Start him every week and reap the benefits my man. I been watching Vince since his Freshman year in college and he ALWAYS finds a way to get it done, he wont let his team or teammates fail. That takes care of the football side, now for the Fantasy impact he will have. Lets do some math. bad Typical QB Performance 200 yards passing 1 Passing TD --------14 points on most formats A bad Vince day 150 yards passing 50 rushing yards 1 PassingTD------------16 points Now lets look at a great Typical QB day 300 yards passing 3 Passing TDs------27 points Vince Good Day 250 yards passing 2 passing TDs 1 rushing TD 100 yards rushing------36 points I am pretty sure that 20 passing TDs and 10 rushing TDs is the basement for Vince this year. It doesnt matter so much who his recievers and running backs are because the defense is so freaked out about his running threat that recievers get wide open and running backs have lanes to run in. Anyone see the Rose Bowl? The very average Texas WRs made USC look stupid. Just like R Bush last year, people are either pro VY or not. Only time will tell this year but think he will be huge. I just wish he wasnt on Madden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,605 Posted September 6, 2007 Merrill Hoge is the second worst ex-steeler on TV, after Rod Woodson, they both suck. I have my hopes for the bus still, but so far he is proving to be the same. Moral of the story, dont take fantasy advice from ex-steelers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vichawkfan 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Hoge is about as good at analyzing football as Sean Salisbury. nuf said. Vince will be good to very good this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craphouse rats 0 Posted September 6, 2007 But do you play VY this week against Jax who he had two horrible games against last year. I am going with Lienart this week against SF over VY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Kennison 12 Posted September 6, 2007 Don't understimate the Madden curse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soopacee 0 Posted September 6, 2007 But do you play VY this week against Jax who he had two horrible games against last year. I am going with Lienart this week against SF over VY. and last year he was a high profile rookie who got thrown to the wolves....he has a whole year under his belt and im pretty sure he will be a little more comfortable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delusional247 0 Posted September 6, 2007 For every year of the curse, madden consumes a soul to live on for 5 more years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turcaso 1 Posted September 6, 2007 I am pretty sure that 20 passing TDs and 10 rushing TDs is the basement for Vince this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreadlocks34 0 Posted September 6, 2007 It is almost a certainty that Hoge told you at least 12 times how he has watched Young on tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted September 6, 2007 If VY was wearing black and gold this weekend than Hoge would be touting him as the second coming. Hoge is a guy who knows football but has a weakness as a analyst. If he has a bias he allows it to effect his commentary and he will seldom waver from his original line of thinking. Due to that you always have to take what he says with a grain of salt because there maybe an agenda involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveJ 0 Posted September 6, 2007 The ultimate irony.... you guys taking advice from a guy who has a history of forgetting what he said 3 mins ago and wondering around trying to remember what it was he was going to do. Rule #1... don't take advice from a guy with more concussions than Wilt Chamberlin had skanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbound70 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Who's Merrill Hodge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoltAddiction 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Start him every week and reap the benefits my man. I been watching Vince since his Freshman year in college and he ALWAYS finds a way to get it done, he wont let his team or teammates fail. That takes care of the football side, now for the Fantasy impact he will have. Lets do some math. bad Typical QB Performance 200 yards passing 1 Passing TD --------14 points on most formats A bad Vince day 150 yards passing 50 rushing yards 1 PassingTD------------16 points Now lets look at a great Typical QB day 300 yards passing 3 Passing TDs------27 points Vince Good Day 250 yards passing 2 passing TDs 1 rushing TD 100 yards rushing------36 points I am pretty sure that 20 passing TDs and 10 rushing TDs is the basement for Vince this year. It doesnt matter so much who his recievers and running backs are because the defense is so freaked out about his running threat that recievers get wide open and running backs have lanes to run in. Anyone see the Rose Bowl? The very average Texas WRs made USC look stupid. Just like R Bush last year, people are either pro VY or not. Only time will tell this year but think he will be huge. I just wish he wasnt on Madden I think the knock on VY, at least for now is his TD to turnover ratio. He put the ball on the ground 12 times last year (i.m unsure exactly how many he lost - I think it was 8) and threw 1 more Int than he did TDS and he had 20-25 turnovers to 19 TDs. This neutralizes a lot of what VY can do. I like his upside...I just think there are going to be weeks where he wins it for you and weeks where he loses it for you. In drafting a QB in the 5th, I would want more consistency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.shitty 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Guys who have had 19 concussions are usually very smart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites