WKTSWAY 0 Posted March 7, 2008 The topic says it all. I'm in a 12 team dynasty (keep ALL players), and a team is trying to get Turner from me. I have a good team and can afford to give him up. But I obviously want to get the most value out of him. The current offer he has sent is 2.07 rookie pick this year and his first next year for Turner. I like his first rounder next year, as I personally don't think he will be a playoff team this coming season. My question is, would it be too much for me to ask for his 1.07 and 1st next year? Or would that insult you if you were that owner? I have 1.08 and 1.11 this year, so I thought I could trade 2 of those picks (if I get 1.07) to get into the top 3 picks (McFadden, Mandenhall, and Stewart area). What would you want for Turner in a dynasty league? My team: Beck, John MIA QB Cutler, Jay DEN QB Edwards, Trent BUF QB Favre, Brett GBP QB Garrard, David JAC QB Barber, Marion DAL RB Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB Bush, Michael OAK RB Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB Peterson, Adrian MIN RB Turner, Michael ATL RB Young, Selvin DEN RB Engram, Bobby SEA WR Hackett, D.J. SEA WR Hill, Jason SFO WR Holt, Torry STL WR Jackson, Vincent SDC WR Jones, Jacoby HOU WR Jones, James GBP WR Marshall, Brandon DEN WR Mason, Derrick BAL WR Walker, Mike JAC WR Davis, Vernon SFO TE Lee, Donald GBP TE Scheffler, Tony DEN TE His team: Moore, Matt CAR QB Rivers, Philip SDC QB Romo, Tony DAL QB Smith, Troy BAL QB Alexander, Shaun SEA RB Calhoun, Brian DET RB Dorsey, DeDe CIN RB Duckett, T.J. DET RB Herron, Noah GBP RB Johnson, Rudi CIN RB Morris, Maurice SEA RB Peterson, Adrian CHI RB Pittman, Michael TBB RB Crayton, Patrick DAL WR Darling, Devard BAL WR Henry, Chris CIN WR Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR Hurd, Sam DAL WR Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR Johnson, Calvin DET WR Northcutt, Dennis JAC WR Stanback, Isaiah DAL WR Urban, Jerheme ARI WR Olsen, Greg CHI TE Witten, Jason DAL TE Kaeding, Nate SDC PK Reed, Jeff PIT PK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rottytiny 7 Posted March 7, 2008 I'd look to upgrade at WR and TE(both look weak IMO, unless Davis gets decent QB play), maybe Calvin and Olsen for Turner and Lee and a flop of either this years or next first rounders, which ever is more advantagous for you. Or Calvin and next years first. I think you need to get a decent player and a pick, draft picks may help in the future but you also need to compete now too. He should be desperate for RB, he's in trouble there. If he won't give you what you want/need, shop Turner around, maybe you'll get a good offer or the original owner will up his offer knowing someone else may get him. Turner is in a decent spot, he signed a big contract, so he'll get his carries, they will lean on the RB until they get a decent QB, plays on turf and can make big plays. I think Turner will be a top #2 back, borderline #1 this year, he seems to produce whenever he gets the chance and should get the goaline carries too (decent size). I'd ask for more then draft picks if I were you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted March 7, 2008 I think I'd go the opposite route... You have such youth at RB.... MB3 and AD, that i'd try to get some immediate value at WR/TE Clearly trying to get CJ/Housh is probably not going to happen on a team that is clearly weak... But i might go after Witten... Guy is still relatively young, is a beast, and one more medicore year from VD might severely retard his value... Turner VD 4 Witten #1 Rookie pick Given your QB situation, you may want to grab a Ryan/Brohm here with the rookie pick... Or package a trade for a big name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 7, 2008 He needs a RB bad so you are in a position of power. I would ask for the 1.7 this year, if he doesn't like it you still have Turner. I agree you need WR help, I would shop him around the league and get an idea what he is worth before I do anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFLRedStorm 0 Posted March 8, 2008 "What would you want for Turner in a dynasty league?" I traded Anquan Boldin and Michael Turner for Reggie Wayne two days ago. Opening day will begin our 18th season of our dynasty league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Deal 0 Posted March 8, 2008 "What would you want for Turner in a dynasty league?" I traded Anquan Boldin and Michael Turner for Reggie Wayne two days ago. Opening day will begin our 18th season of our dynasty league. Do not do anything similar to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted March 8, 2008 I would ask for the 1.07 and Calvin Johnson. Turner's trade value is probably going to drop once the season starts. He's going to a bad team and never shown that he can be a 20+carry back every week. With MB3, Purple Jesus, plus a wildcard like Michael Bush, you're in a position of strength at RB but weak at WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 8, 2008 "What would you want for Turner in a dynasty league?" I traded Anquan Boldin and Michael Turner for Reggie Wayne two days ago. Opening day will begin our 18th season of our dynasty league. This in no way shows Turners true value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted March 8, 2008 Do not do anything similar to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFLRedStorm 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Do not do anything similar to this. Why exactly? My starting lineup will now be: Tom Brady Steven Jackson Brian Westbrook MBIII Reggie Wayne Marques Colston Brandon Marshall Bench: Travis Henry Santonio Holmes Plus I have the #1 & 2 overall draft picks. (McFadden and either Mendenhall or Stewart) You still wouldn't pull the trigger on the deal I did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreadlocks34 0 Posted March 8, 2008 He's going to a bad team and never shown that he can be a 20+carry back every week. The guy has been on a team with Tomlinson since he has been in the league. I'm not a brain surgeon but I am thinking he hasn't yet had a opportunity to carry a full load yet. I may be way out of a limb with this one but that having LT around could possibly be the reason he has never shown what he can do for a full season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wienerpop 0 Posted March 8, 2008 id b looking for another starting qb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdog1967 0 Posted March 9, 2008 Do not do anything similar to this. Yeah, I would have took that in a heartbeat. I'll give you one stud for two all day long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hitman2 0 Posted March 9, 2008 I have 1.08 and 1.11 this year, so I thought I could trade 2 of those picks (if I get 1.07) to get into the top 3 picks (McFadden, Mandenhall, and Stewart area). I'd be very surprised if you could pull this off. I have 1.04 in a ppr dynasty. I have offered everything under the sun (to go with 1.04) just to move up to 1.02 or 1.03 and have been rejected every time. They don't even want to talk. I probably wouldn't either if I was in that top 3 this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKTSWAY 0 Posted March 9, 2008 I'd be very surprised if you could pull this off. I have 1.04 in a ppr dynasty. I have offered everything under the sun (to go with 1.04) just to move up to 1.02 or 1.03 and have been rejected every time. They don't even want to talk. I probably wouldn't either if I was in that top 3 this year. There's one guy who has 1.01 and 1.02 who is shopping 1.02 to other people....but if I can't get it done, I'll have another 1st rounder either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted March 9, 2008 The guy has been on a team with Tomlinson since he has been in the league. I'm not a brain surgeon but I am thinking he hasn't yet had a opportunity to carry a full load yet. I may be way out of a limb with this one but that having LT around could possibly be the reason he has never shown what he can do for a full season. I didn't mention LT because I figured everyone knew that. But you're assuming that the absence of LT means he suddenly transforms into a star, and it certainly seems like that is the conventional wisdom. What I'm trying to say, and didn't do a good job of the first time, is that this is not a sure thing. Also keep in mind the new team has Jerious Norwood who is an extremely talented back as well. Atlanta could be envisioning a RBBC again this year, just subtracting Dunn and adding Turner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKTSWAY 0 Posted March 12, 2008 well, he traded away his 1st next year so i had to go a little different route. I really wanted his 1st next year, but someone else got it. But I did do this deal with him: Turner and my 2nd next year (guessing 2.09-2.12) for Crayton, 1.07 this year, his 2nd rounder next year (guessing 2.01-2.05) and someone elses 2nd rounder next year (guessing 2.04-2.08) I know it didn't improve my WRs a whole lot, but I think I got rid of Turner while his value was really high. I now have 1.07, 1.08, 1.11, 2.11, and 3.11 this year which I am trying to do a 2 for 1 trade to move up with some of them right now since I'm going to have hard choices on who to drop after the rookie draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aportanenko 0 Posted March 12, 2008 I don't know if I'd want Turner on my squad, he was great in SD, but I'm a firm believer in "it's all about the system" and ATL's system has blown woofers and the speakers keep falling off the milk crates. If he went somewhere else It'd be a different story, just have a feeling he isn't gonna do much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road_Cats 1 Posted March 12, 2008 I personally would not dump him he is going to get the bulk of the work and I would imagine the goal line work I have him in my keeper league and even though I dont have the luxeries you have I feel I am still above average at RB for the upcoming season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted March 12, 2008 First thing I did when looking at your team was think you need an upgrade at QB Offer Turner and Both your 1's for Romo and Housh You have built a very strong team with tremendous depth, now basically all you can do is upgrade your starters. You really dont need your 1's this year imo so dont be afraid to move em Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdog1967 0 Posted March 14, 2008 First thing I did when looking at your team was think you need an upgrade at QB Offer Turner and Both your 1's for Romo and Housh You have built a very strong team with tremendous depth, now basically all you can do is upgrade your starters. You really dont need your 1's this year imo so dont be afraid to move em Good advice!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Deal 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Atlanta could be envisioning a RBBC again this year, just subtracting Dunn and adding Turner. With the amount of money they're paying Turner, i doubt they're envisioning a RBBC. I'm sure Norwood will get some carries, but Turner will be the primary back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites