TredH20 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Fumbles count against them? I'm the commish of my league - was in the championship today. We have it set so that only D/ST can score off of returning yardage and return TDs. I had Berrian muff a punt return - lose the fumble and it resulted in -2 to his individual stats - giving him a whopping total of -0.2 for the game. This happened earlier to me in the season when DeSean Jackson fumbled a punt return. That one didn't hurt as much - as I won by a considerable amount that week. This week - the championship - and a difference of $350 between 1st and 2nd - it makes me lose by less than 2 points. It happened to a few other owners during the season but also didn't affect outcomes of the games - we all complained about it - but the free Yahoo league doesn't allow for scoring corrections. Now - I feel somewhat responsible as the commish of the league as I set up the scoring - I didnt want position players to be able to score on special teams. I wanted to keep that as D/ST. There was no category for D/ST fumbles lost and there seems to be no distinction by Yahoo between fumble losses. And honestly - I never thought it would make THAT much of a difference in the outcome of a game. Do I have a legitimate beef with this scoring? Do I take this up with my league and take a vote? I feel torn here because I am the commish - and this may be taken care of by the commish in some cases, and now I have a conflict of interest - but this is a considerable amount of money. Or do I just concede the loss and realize that it is just an indication that Yahoo has limitations and that we should look elsewhere to play next season? The loss is fresh - so I apologize if I sound bitter - just lost in overtime...watching Carolina not get the ball to Steve Smith one more time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted December 22, 2008 Too late to change it now. Just concede the loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TredH20 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Too late to change it now. Just concede the loss. There wouldn't be a way to change it anyhow - no stat corrections allowed. If they had been allowed I would have gone in and corrected that stat everytime it happened during the season, then I'd have been able to do a similar thing this weekend. I guess I know how San Diego and Baltimore fans feel when there teams get decided by poor officiating...this is the FF equivalent of it I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TredH20 0 Posted December 22, 2008 There wouldn't be a way to change it anyhow - no stat corrections allowed. If they had been allowed I would have gone in and corrected that stat everytime it happened during the season, then I'd have been able to do a similar thing this weekend. I guess I know how San Diego and Baltimore fans feel when there teams get decided by poor officiating...this is the FF equivalent of it I think. Not to beat this horse even more dead...but just out of curiousity's sake... Does anyone know if Yahoo distinguishes between "muffed" punt returns and "fumbled" punt returns? Checking the scoring summary on NFL.com - it states" (:35) 9-M.Koenen punts 34 yards to MIN 22, Center-46-M.Schneck. 87-B.Berrian MUFFS catch, RECOVERED by ATL-59-M.Boley at MIN 22. 59-M.Boley to MIN 22 for no gain (50-E.Henderson). If I understand it right - a muff is not a fumble, because possession hasn't been gained - it simply happens when the ball hits the receiving team. Would this get overturned by a stat correction? Or is it up to each fantasy sport provider to determine how they define fumble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m4rk0 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Yahoo blows. Go with MFL next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rise&demise 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Officially, a muff is considered a fumble. Check Berrian's stat line on NFL.com... he has been credited with a lost fumble. There won't be any score corrections by Yahoo. Next year go with a provider that gives you control over the scoring but I think you have to suck it up and take the loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TredH20 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Officially, a muff is considered a fumble. Check Berrian's stat line on NFL.com... he has been credited with a lost fumble. There won't be any score corrections by Yahoo. Next year go with a provider that gives you control over the scoring but I think you have to suck it up and take the loss. Yeah - I just noted that. Which is funny - because according to the official definition, a muff is NOT a fumble because no possession was gained by the receiver. But I do note the discrepancy between the text description in the play by play on NFL.com and then the box score crediting Berrian with the fumble. Looks like even the NFL doesn't know what to call it...bad luck is what I call it. What is the MFL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,850 Posted December 22, 2008 Wow, that sucks. There's probably nothing you can do about it though because in Yahoo's scoring it specifically states "Fumbles Lost" and not just "Offensive Fumbles Lost." But if Yahoo got other complaints about stuff like this then I would imagine they might change it next year (such as how they added "Offensive Fumble Return TD's"). If you know everyone in the league, and if everyone knew that you didn't want special teams to count, then the only thing I can think of is to maybe suggest splitting the money or something, because if he was a real fantasy football player then he wouldn't want to accept a cheap win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotekniQues 0 Posted December 23, 2008 their scoring is wrong. there is no way you should pay for an ST screw up of a player while gaining none of his return yards. that money is rightfully yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
