The Moz 69 Posted March 10, 2010 We got 2 first team all americans in Wall and Cousins and 1 2nd teamer in Patterson -- UK is as talented as they ever were - just really young. The team that worries me is MSU more than Kansas -- I think Cousins would embarrass Aldrich straight up and Wall would go right by Collins who always overplays. On a neutral court the only team that can beat UK is UK -- but with all those young players it happens. nex year we lose Cuz , Wall , and PP and bring in Knight , Leslie . Kanter , Poole , and and outside shot at getting Lamb That is all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 10, 2010 in the SEC tournament? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 11, 2010 #8 is coming in a few months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 11, 2010 #8 is coming in a few months Elite 8 and a loss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 12, 2010 oh you went to miss ST so your title challenged -- that would be #8 national title not counting the old NIT titles or the Helms titles we have -- unlike other schools ( UNC ) we don't count those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 12, 2010 oh you went to miss ST so your title challenged -- that would be #8 national title not counting the old NIT titles or the Helms titles we have -- unlike other schools ( UNC ) we don't count those. 2009 SEC Tournament Champions - MSU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 12, 2010 2009 SEC Tournament Champions - MSU would take too long to list all of ours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 13, 2010 would take too long to list all of ours we are the Vanderbilt in sports in the SEC without the Academics as a school. Don't you burst my bubble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 13, 2010 MISSISSIPPI STATE vs KENTUCKY SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GO DAWGS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 14, 2010 SEC is weak! Mountaineers are big east champs!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 14, 2010 FOCK FOCK FOCK FOCK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 15, 2010 SEC is weak! Mountaineers are big east champs!!!!!!! they are a 1 man team and will have no answer for Cuz . or Wall. Butler will get his but WV struggles to score UK scores alot and runs all game. WV might keep it close early but UK will win by 10 by games end. and the Big East was a little off this year Syracuse no way deserved a 1 seed nova is weak -- Gtown is scaryiest team I think if they are hitting 3s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 15, 2010 we are the Vanderbilt in sports in the SEC without the Academics as a school. Don't you burst my bubble dont feel bad -- the team that can claim to be a better basketball program is UCLA and that was only during a 15 years stretch. UK is back Nex t year we re load with Knight , Leslie , Kanter , Poole , and Lamb -- to go with Bledsoe , Orton , Dondon , Miller , and Liggins UK is here to stay fella's sorry Duke , Sorry UNC -- UK has returened to the throne! when Johnb lives 10 miles from Duke and K recruits him relentlessley and Cal still gets him that says the gaurd has changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 15, 2010 You obviously haven't watched much of wvu this year. Uk hasn't played anyone who plays d the way wv does. Wv rebounds 43% of their misses. Butler is the man but jones and ebanks both are very good. Jones is one of the most underrated players in the country. We kept monroe in check and would do the same with cuz. Wall on the other hand will give us probs. I'm not saying the eers will be favored nor should they but if uk overlooks them they will be going home. I'd be shocked if uk won by more than 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 15, 2010 You obviously haven't watched much of wvu this year. Uk hasn't played anyone who plays d the way wv does. Wv rebounds 43% of their misses. Butler is the man but jones and ebanks both are very good. Jones is one of the most underrated players in the country. We kept monroe in check and would do the same with cuz. Wall on the other hand will give us probs. I'm not saying the eers will be favored nor should they but if uk overlooks them they will be going home. I'd be shocked if uk won by more than 10. ummmmmmmmm maybe you haven't watched UK much we are among leagues leading rebounding teams and the tallest in the country not to mention to the best front anywhere. WV has noone to defend Cousins is not Monroe he is the #2 or #3 overall draft this year. Wall is #1 and Patterson might struggle - Wall is just a freak. Butler is a great player and will get his but WV struggles to score against UK thats not good man.. UK is end to end run if you miss and they are like a blur with Bledsoe and Wall -- WV misses alot. In order to beat UK you need to forcde them to inbound the ball if they get a board it's goodbye -they might miss but they will get to the rim.. No gaurd tandem is nearly as fast as Eric an john I think WV D keeps is to a low scoring 1st half then UK turns it on and maybe wins 78 - 65 -- close up until the 2 min mark. The only team I am worried about is Texas they have the athletes that can hang just really erratic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 15, 2010 ummmmmmmmm maybe you haven't watched UK much we are among leagues leading rebounding teams and the tallest in the country not to mention to the best front anywhere. WV has noone to defend Cousins is not Monroe he is the #2 or #3 overall draft this year. Wall is #1 and Patterson might struggle - Wall is just a freak. Butler is a great player and will get his but WV struggles to score against UK thats not good man.. UK is end to end run if you miss and they are like a blur with Bledsoe and Wall -- WV misses alot. In order to beat UK you need to forcde them to inbound the ball if they get a board it's goodbye -they might miss but they will get to the rim.. No gaurd tandem is nearly as fast as Eric an john I think WV D keeps is to a low scoring 1st half then UK turns it on and maybe wins 78 - 65 -- close up until the 2 min mark. The only team I am worried about is Texas they have the athletes that can hang just really erratic. Mississippi State took them to Overtime both games this year. And that's only with 5 players. We don't even have a bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 15, 2010 Mississippi State took them to Overtime both games this year. And that's only with 5 players. We don't even have a bench. MSU played there hearts out man congrats on that nothing to be ashamed of there. They played there best game of the year and UK had an off game but got lucky I admit it. If UK plays there game noone can beat us -- we did that against UT a top 12 team blew um out by 30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 15, 2010 what is sad is the 2 best teams get the toughest draws -- WTF??? Duke and Syracuse - ( who didn't deserve a #1 ) get the easiest -- ahill WV deserved the 4th #1 how does UK draw WV the 5th overall team , Texas in round 2 , NM the #8 team as the 3 seed -- and Puke get a cake walk. Kansas gets GT , nad OSU the committe is stoned man.. worst seedings ever! Huggins shoud be pissed as he should of drew Duke or Cuse at least if not getting the lkast #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 16, 2010 I felt like we deserved the 1 seed but kinda figured it would go to duke. What I was really hoping was we would be in their bracket. Its quite obvious the ncaa is doing everything possible to get duke to the final four. They have by far the easiest bracket. Kansas has the toughest road and uk the 2nd toughest imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 16, 2010 So I take it.... Moz's personal bracket WINNER: UK Ahill's personal bracket WINNER: WV An elite 8 showdown potentially for you two and these teams. This could be interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 16, 2010 So I take it.... Moz's personal bracket WINNER: UK Ahill's personal bracket WINNER: WV An elite 8 showdown potentially for you two and these teams. This could be interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,370 Posted March 16, 2010 I'm a Kansas fan and I have them winning it all, again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 17, 2010 Kansas has a great veteran mix. UK though has them out talented at every position just really young. Well maybe X is = to bledsoe -- Bledsoe. Wall > Collins , Cux > Aldrich , Patterson > anyone they put at PF> I would love to see Cuz abuse Alrich and make him look like the overated player he is. sorry JMO. Collins would try gaurd Wall 1-1 ............ try.. X is a great shooter but he couldn't defend Bledsoe with his speed -- The only person in the NCAA faster that Bledsoe is Wall LOL. Key to beating UK is making them inbound the ball and run sets - if you miss shots youre dead as No team is end to end as good as UK in transition. KU will try and Play UK's game they got talent no doubt and If UK isn't hitting at least a few 3's to keep em honest I think KU wins but I see Cousins getting 25 and 12 that game as Alrich would get abused he has never faced a big man as good as Cousins or as quick. If UK is hitting 3's may as well warm the bus up Collins will be able to penetrate but he will be going against trees in Cuz and Patterson. Too bad UK is so young that will hurt as there hasn't been a more talented team in memory with 4 potential lottery picks. WV does not scare me in the least as they miss a lot of shots and will get killed in in transition. The team that Scares me is Texas as they got athletes inside that can give UK fits IF they hit shots - but they miss too. I would love a UK - KU final would be fun as both teams would run -- Every team UK plays untill then will hold the damn ball for 30 sec before shooting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Kansas has a great veteran mix. UK though has them out talented at every position just really young. Well maybe X is = to bledsoe -- Bledsoe. Wall > Collins , Cux > Aldrich , Patterson > anyone they put at PF> I would love to see Cuz abuse Alrich and make him look like the overated player he is. sorry JMO. Collins would try gaurd Wall 1-1 ............ try.. X is a great shooter but he couldn't defend Bledsoe with his speed -- The only person in the NCAA faster that Bledsoe is Wall LOL. Wow are you a homer slappy. Abuse aldrich?. You mean like he abused Varnado both games this year? Don't get me wrong, I think Aldrich is Paul Davis all over again but Cousins is overrated as well IMO. Cousins is already in NBA crying flopping mode. Kid whines like a bigger version of Ginnobli. Wall is the #1 player in the NBA draft right now but that is based on upside. I believe in 2 years Wall will be an NBA stud but the kid flat out can't shoot a jump shot yet. A wide open 3 makes the kid sweat like Tiger Woods in divorce court. He is ultra quick but he is the only kid I have seen in college basketball that gets Michael Jordan fouls called for him. Bledose and Patterson are the kids I like on that team. Like it or not, teams will slow UK way down in the NCAA tourney. Either Texas or Wake can run with them in spurts but have the coaching to slow the pace down as well. The SEC is a weak conference this year and UK's 2 big out of conference wins came against teams not even in the tourney and they barely squeaked out wins against those teams. They are young and inexperienced and I think that will show this time of year. I detest John Calipari more than any other coach in college basketball except maybe huggy bear or Bruce Pearl and it makes me sick how the media fawns over a guy that everyone knows is dirty. Sorry Moz, I think even you know he is dirty. I will pencil in Kentucky for the final four in my bracket because it makes it a win/win for me (money or happiness) but I don't think they get past the sweet 16 and Wall and Cousins move on to make their millions although neither likely can read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 17, 2010 Wow are you a homer slappy. Abuse aldrich?. You mean like he abused Varnado both games this year? Don't get me wrong, I think Aldrich is Paul Davis all over again but Cousins is overrated as well IMO. Cousins is already in NBA crying flopping mode. Kid whines like a bigger version of Ginnobli. Wall is the #1 player in the NBA draft right now but that is based on upside. I believe in 2 years Wall will be an NBA stud but the kid flat out can't shoot a jump shot yet. A wide open 3 makes the kid sweat like Tiger Woods in divorce court. He is ultra quick but he is the only kid I have seen in college basketball that gets Michael Jordan fouls called for him. Bledose and Patterson are the kids I like on that team. Like it or not, teams will slow UK way down in the NCAA tourney. Either Texas or Wake can run with them in spurts but have the coaching to slow the pace down as well. The SEC is a weak conference this year and UK's 2 big out of conference wins came against teams not even in the tourney and they barely squeaked out wins against those teams. They are young and inexperienced and I think that will show this time of year. I detest John Calipari more than any other coach in college basketball except maybe huggy bear or Bruce Pearl and it makes me sick how the media fawns over a guy that everyone knows is dirty. Sorry Moz, I think even you know he is dirty. I will pencil in Kentucky for the final four in my bracket because it makes it a win/win for me (money or happiness) but I don't think they get past the sweet 16 and Wall and Cousins move on to make their millions although neither likely can read. Do you even watch the games man -- MSU triple teamed Cuz everytime and he still got a double double --- MSU gameplaned to stop Cuz not Wall - Wall just had a un Wall like game. Jesus man People beat the hell out of Cuz every game and he gets maybe a 1/3 of those calls. Wall is not a horrible 3 point shooter just streaky he had a poor game some games he hits them well. Hell he hit a big one in OT. As for fouls you are kidding -- Wall gets mugged every time he drives and maybe 1/2 the time gets the call. To beat UK 2 things have to happen you have to make them inbound the ball - if you miss UK runs and noone is catching Bledsoe or Wall in the open court. and UK has to go dry from 3 which at times they do. Kentucky is the first team with 4 lottery picks in a long time just too bad their so young -- Orton would go roiund 1 and he is on our bench Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Do you even watch the games man -- MSU triple teamed Cuz everytime and he still got a double double --- MSU gameplaned to stop Cuz not Wall - Wall just had a un Wall like game. Jesus man People beat the hell out of Cuz every game and he gets maybe a 1/3 of those calls. Wall is not a horrible 3 point shooter just streaky he had a poor game some games he hits them well. Hell he hit a big one in OT. As for fouls you are kidding -- Wall gets mugged every time he drives and maybe 1/2 the time gets the call. To beat UK 2 things have to happen you have to make them inbound the ball - if you miss UK runs and noone is catching Bledsoe or Wall in the open court. and UK has to go dry from 3 which at times they do. Kentucky is the first team with 4 lottery picks in a long time just too bad their so young -- Orton would go roiund 1 and he is on our bench I do watch the games. Just not with slappy rose colored glasses on. I have seen them play 4 or 5 times this year. Right now Wall is a kid who knows he can't shoot. MO for Kentucky games is Wall drives, gets a call, announcers fawn over him like he is Brett Favre playing basketball. When your as good as he is in transition and make a lot of layups that way you don't shoot 40% from the floor. My opinion is that they play in a weak overrated conference and don't play anybody out of conference. Couple that with their youth and I think they are out after the sweet 16. BTW - Stop saying 4 lottery picks. That is to homer even for you. Also - It is a tip that Evan Turner is a better player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Good read: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/bl...rn=ncaab,228616 UK graduates 30% of their players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 19, 2010 I do watch the games. Just not with slappy rose colored glasses on. I have seen them play 4 or 5 times this year. Right now Wall is a kid who knows he can't shoot. MO for Kentucky games is Wall drives, gets a call, announcers fawn over him like he is Brett Favre playing basketball. When your as good as he is in transition and make a lot of layups that way you don't shoot 40% from the floor. My opinion is that they play in a weak overrated conference and don't play anybody out of conference. Couple that with their youth and I think they are out after the sweet 16. BTW - Stop saying 4 lottery picks. That is to homer even for you. Also - It is a tip that Evan Turner is a better player. wow I gues gthe big least is much better huh how did they do today? -- Wall was 3-4 from 3 - but I guess he just forgot he can't hit 3's. Cuz , Wall , Patterson , and Bledsoe if he comes out are all likley lottery picks - Hell Orton would go first round if he came out. Thats not homer its fact. IF UK plays to their potential no team can beat them as no team has as much talent but freshman are freshman and are prone to costly mistakes - I am jusdt glad we have a team thats fun to watch again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 19, 2010 Good read: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/bl...rn=ncaab,228616 UK graduates 30% of their players. you go to college to have a career - UK is going to have many many 1 n dones with Cal - but they are doing what everyone else does in college setting up their career. BTW Wall the " bad kid " has a 3.5 GPA next year we will have at least 3 1 n dones with Knight , Leslie , and Jones -- If Bledsoe stays he's projected as the 5th pick overall in 2011 - I don't think he stays though. We Hired Cal to return UK to what is was 10 years ago - so far he has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted March 19, 2010 wow I gues gthe big least is much better huh how did they do today? -- Wall was 3-4 from 3 - but I guess he just forgot he can't hit 3's. Cuz , Wall , Patterson , and Bledsoe if he comes out are all likley lottery picks - Hell Orton would go first round if he came out. Thats not homer its fact. IF UK plays to their potential no team can beat them as no team has as much talent but freshman are freshman and are prone to costly mistakes - I am jusdt glad we have a team thats fun to watch again. To Funny. Yes today was a big win against a solid East Tennessee state team. Wall looked good on those pressure packed 3's with the game in doubt. Big East 1-3 SEC 2-2 We shall see............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted March 20, 2010 I am now willing to admit the big east in over rated. Scottie Reynolds is a joke and Villanova is one of the worst coached teams I have ever seen. All American shoots 15% for the tourney? Enjoy your career as an insurance salesman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 21, 2010 I am now willing to admit the big east in over rated. Scottie Reynolds is a joke and Villanova is one of the worst coached teams I have ever seen. All American shoots 15% for the tourney? Enjoy your career as an insurance salesman. oh Wall was 3-6 from 3 - his memory must really sucking ass - doesn't he know he cant shoot. a qoute by Wake's coach was something like that was as good or better than any team I have seen in the last 10 years. Reynolds has no speed nor any true PG skills -- He will get drafted but not untill round 2 - that was known before this game. He is a good shooter most gam,es just picked a bad time to have 2 terrible games. No clue how Duke Gets the South and we get East -- oh yes I do NCAA will do anything for Duke to have it as easy as they can. THats why I love it that Wall grows up 20 minutes from Duke - K recruits him since middle school and he chooses UK. Like I have said - you want to beat UK - make them inbound the ball. On Missed shots UK runs and noone has the speed to keep up. Wake actually tried to run with us hahahaha I actually hope we play WV as Hugs ego won't let him play total slow ball and WV misses alot. Either Wisk or Cornell will hold the ball for 30 sec everytime though - I can't seee a win of more than 10-12 against either but I think UK blows WV out. I hope Duke makes it out and we play them - they got 3 players - nothing in the post Love to see Singler try defend Cuz or Patterson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 22, 2010 Not sure which wv team you have been watching this yr, but they don't get up and down the court. Play tough man to man d and run their sets on offense. Held Missouri to 59 yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 22, 2010 Not sure which wv team you have been watching this yr, but they don't get up and down the court. Play tough man to man d and run their sets on offense. Held Missouri to 59 yesterday. WV has a good team - they will need to hit shots in the open court they stand little chance. In 1/2 court i expect Hugs to double or even tripple Cousins and do what everyone else tries to do give us the 3. I can say Butler is a great player -- If WV knocks down shots they got a chance if they brick alot it will be a blow out just like Wake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 22, 2010 I'd say if the game is in the 60's to low 70's wv has a good chance. If it gets up into the 80's uk will win it. And I'd say they will double cousins and make them hit jumpers. If wall and bledsoe shoot well uk will most likely win. Of course this is all assuming both teams win thurs which isn't a guarantee by any means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted March 22, 2010 I'd say if the game is in the 60's to low 70's wv has a good chance. If it gets up into the 80's uk will win it. And I'd say they will double cousins and make them hit jumpers. If wall and bledsoe shoot well uk will most likely win. Of course this is all assuming both teams win thurs which isn't a guarantee by any means. well everyone doubles down on Cousins - they will need to triple team like MSU did to stop him -- if they just play him and bring help Cousins will have many 3 point plays - Cuz is just so strong that you can't knock the ball out. One thing about UK is even when there not hitting they still find ways to win - But i agree if there not hitting it will be a close game with 2 of the best go to guys around in Wall and Butler. If Bledsoe , Miller , and Dodson are hitting I can't see it being close as WV will try to play catch up by speeding the game up and that will make it worse. Wall will get wide open looks at 3 all game he needs to knock 1/2 of them down. More than Likely they put Eubanks on Patterson as to not get him in foul trouble on Cousins. As for Cornell -- Not too worried but who knows when you play a team that holds the ball for 30 sec and shoots 3's lights out anyhtig can happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 26, 2010 First of all its Ebanks no eubanks. And no way he guards patterson or cousins. He will guard the 3 or maybe one of your guards. Hes long and quick and our best defender. Wouldn't be suprised to see him on Wall for parts of the game. Of course I also expect to play a lot of zone with truck being out. We played our worst offensive game of the yr and won by 13. I can guarantee uk hasn't played a team that defends and rebounds like wv. It will be close. What sucks is I think these are the 2 best teams left and they are playing in the elite 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted March 26, 2010 YEA BABY - GET IT ON. I have two draws going this year. I took UK over WV in one I took WV over UK in one just because of you two:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted March 28, 2010 GOOOOOOOOO Kentucky! Just like Memphis. Favored. Talented, yet underachieving. Cant make clutch free throws. Calipari outcoached. A nervous team that is outplayed. I didn't expect a WVU win, but I guess I should have. Yes, I"m sending my dues to you. I'll do it Mon. Sorry. Steve, I'm mailing what I owe you from the playoff challenge too. I'll put in an extra $5 for interest. Sorry to both of you, been busy standing my new dynasty league up. Got it to a managable status now. No ill intent on my part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahill992000 0 Posted March 28, 2010 Was there ever a doubt??? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites