*** Happy Football Day Week 10***

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Yea probably.  I get Caleb was a "generational talent"   so maybe he has upside to be great.  But by all accounts he is Kyler Murray off the field.  Age matters none as neither are even in prime QB years.  

Bears would be a force with Sam Darnold at QB.   

Williams is essentially a rookie, last year was a wash. The whole damn staff got fired. 

I don't get Jordan Love. He's ok, not great, probably average. He hasn't done anything to make me go wow. Williams can make every play, has ice water in his veins and has insane skills. He just needs to stay in his lane, and that will come over time. You gotta love what you see so far. 

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Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Williams is essentially a rookie, last year was a wash. The whole damn staff got fired. 

I don't get Jordan Love. He's ok, not great, probably average. He hasn't done anything to make me go wow. Williams can make every play, has ice water in his veins and has insane skills. He just needs to stay in his lane, and that will come over time. You gotta love what you see so far. 

I heard similar things about Fields.  Just not the immaturity.   

In Love's first playoff game he tore the Cowboys to shred in Dallas.   

Love has a lot of wow.  He has a lot of dumb.   They led league in drop rate last season.  He gets limited help compared to say Hurts.  AJ Brown is so bored with his role as they win he told people to drop him from fantasy.  Thats how talented the roster is.   To win many other ways than tossing it to a stud wr ever.  

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

I heard similar things about Fields.  Just not the immaturity

No you didn't. Not even close. 

Williams would of been the #1 pick if he came out as a Freshman 

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Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

No you didn't. Not even close. 

Williams would of been the #1 pick if he came out as a Freshman 

Hear similar as "oh the coaching"  "oh the players".  

Fields was a favorite amongst everyone as a guy who was good just wronged.  Literally general public's favorite QB.   I banged the drum for years that he was just not that good.  People finally woke up.   

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1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Love's fumble wasnt any good but it was just a product of trying to much.   Not sucking.  But he needs to learn to take his lumps and sack.  

He is amongst the best at sack avoidance traditionally.  But he is trying to do too much there.  

By no means did he play a good game.  But 2 4ths he ran and threw for and nullified by a unneeded false start and a drop right in thr numbers on 4th and 9.  

Generally I feel he runs a good offense and can make all thr throws.  Hes not as good as a Rodgers at off balance flings but he can.  He is forcing too much but I think a lot if just off with playcalling (see the Bills).   Lafleur is one of most run heavy playcallers on a passing or neutral situation.  When thry open it up, it usually goes well.  

I feel Love has most of the tools and is a pretty good dude.   Im not sure he will ever be amongst the best in a given year but he is good in my eyes.  It wasnt a good game but I didnt think that was awful if you dont dock him too hard for fumbling.  He shows he can make NFL throws all game.  He throws a nice ball. Thry came out pounding jacobs for like 2 grinding first downs.   They have passed thr 50 11 times in last 2 games and have 20 pts off those. 

Saquon took a dump off for 40 yards.  Jacobs got free turned thr wrong way by any logical choice and Love throws it on his left side instead of right.  Thats going for 25 if Josh moves in a logical way away from the defender.  

Like I said, I don’t see him play much and it’s probably colored by most recently seeing him plan a fantastic Eagles D 2x last year and a pretty good one Monday. But when I do see him play, he looks like a guy with all the physical told who’s lacking above the neck. 

I will say GB gives him no help with the collection of JAGs at receiver. 

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

But when I do see him play, he looks like a guy with all the physical told who’s lacking above the neck. 

That's exactly what I see. I don't think he has the "It Factor" like a Jalen Hurts has. He's just a QB on

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4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's exactly what I see. I don't think he has the "It Factor" like a Jalen Hurts has. He's just a QB on

Love could grow into it. His receivers did thoroughly blow on MNF. A few years ago everyone said they were a young up and coming WR room. Now it’s sort of obvious they’re all 3s and 4s, and none of them can stay healthy. 

My big takeaway on MNF is once you get Love scrambling he barely seems to look downfield and I don’t think he completed a single ball on the run, something Hurts excels at.