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lesjroza

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In Topic: Zeke and NFL talking settlement

19 October 2017 - 07:59 PM

Really time to get over yourself dude. You're trying too hard to impress...and it's falling flat.

 

 

Very big of you, I guess I fought the Law and the Law won  :)


In Topic: Zeke and NFL talking settlement

19 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

Law, on 19 Oct 2017 - 1:45 PM, said:


What makes me LOL is the arrogance with which you post. I understand you likely stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but really,"...I have been following closely since the start and have a far better handle on this than the majority of national reporters...." followed up with calling people naive and not serious and on and on?

Listen dude, you don't know jack! You can try your best to post as if you do, but you don't so just relax.

lesjroza, on 19 Oct 2017 - 1:47 PM, said:



Nah, the truth is that I do know............. that I don't "know", for the most part, there is no such thing

Additionally let me add and clarify a few things.

If I offended you in some way, or anyone else, I apologize, its not you, its me........its not uncommon.

I have a way of being snarky, and it does not sit well with everyone, but there is no malicious intent.

When I write "I'm not an expert but I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night" I'm actually intending to convey the opposite of arrogance....awareness that I'm not an expert on this subject.

At the same time when I say I have a better handle on it than most national reporters.......... I'm sorry if you took offense but I very strongly believe that is true. From the comments you have made, I believe you have a better handle as well!

Its not meant to demean national reporters or put them down. They have more things they know more about than I do, and better sources on many subjects. At the same time they have many responsibilities that require more time than I have spent than on this single issue. Its not meant to convey superiority of intelligence or any other offensive way you may have taken it. I also believe most national reporters would, and actually have admitted throughout this process that they could be better informed and seem uncomfortable writing about it.

Also let me encourage you, and everybody here for that matter, every one of us can be more informed than a national reporter when it comes to opinions and facts pertinent to FF if we drill down the way they are unable to. Have confidence in yourself! That, in fact, is the very reason I come here, to have my own opinions challenged and hopefully to find different viewpoints from people who have knowledge to drop on a specific subject where I do not have the time or inclination to research.

When I said "Zeke's name will never be clear regardless of what happens in court anyway, don't be naive."...... that was not an attempt to label any person naive. If you or others took it as demeaning I assure you it wasn't the intent. I was conveying that IMO the idea (not the person), that Zeke (or any celebrity) accused of domestic abuse would have their name "cleared" by the court process is not consistent with the experience we have had recently as a society. This court process is not intended to clear his name, and even if it did, nothing has worked for others through recent history. The stigma will still be there. All one has to do is read this board and that should be clear.

Also, I did not take offense to this : "Listen dude, you don't know jack! You can try your best to post as if you do, but you don't so just relax.

The one thing I do know.................... is that I don't "know" very many things at all. I consider most things in a range of outcomes more so than absolutes anyway. However, I do have a great deal of confidence in my ability to predict and navigate a range fairly well because I have had success doing so in many facets of life throughout the years. My confidence can and does appear as "arrogance", to some especially when I write, so I get where you are saying. If you prefer a more humble route for yourself, and others that's cool, very cool. I wish I conveyed it more myself, its a good thing to aspire to and I hope I can improve in that area. Also FWIW when I post my name is on it. I try not to post about things I have not done some research on, and or a lot of thinking about, and I don't post the opposite of what I believe to throw my league mates off my intent. If its that important I'm worried about somebody knowing my thinking, I just don't comment which is why you don't see a boatload of posts from me.

As for relax, I'm not sure I could be much more, you are misinterpreting thinking otherwise.

I thought it important to apologize to you and anybody else who took the "naive" comment regarding an idea as a personal attack, to me your writing it as you did was a mischaracterization. It was a poor choice of a word on my part, but I wanted to make sure that people saw I was commenting on an idea and not a person regardless of the semantics.


In Topic: Zeke and NFL talking settlement

19 October 2017 - 02:49 PM

 

What makes me LOL is the arrogance with which you post. I understand you likely stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but really,"...I have been following closely since the start and have a far better handle on this than the majority of national reporters...." followed up with calling people naive and not serious and on and on?

 

Listen dude, you don't know jack! You can try your best to post as if you do, but you don't so just relax.

 

 

Nah, the truth is that I do know............. that I don't "know", for the most part, there is no such thing


In Topic: Zeke and NFL talking settlement

19 October 2017 - 02:48 PM

Have you ever been yourself or known anybody who has been through the court process?

You are underestimating the desire one starts to feel for it to all just go away...........even and maybe especially, if you are in the right. 

 

"Wins" with a settlement..................lets just say its 1 game 

 

NFL/NFLPA/Zeke................. dollars, time spent and emotional investment in moving forward in court

 

 

Cowboys        its 1 game vs what could be 6 and is very likely to be more than 1 regardless of any court outcome

 

Zeke              Cowboys are his employer.............Zeke will spin he did nothing wrong but this was the best outcome for the team and moving forward made sense. He fought as hard as he could for himself but made a selfless move in the end, yada, yada, spin-spin.

 

 

NFL             Does not have its rights under the CBA any further questioned or scrutinized in court. They fought as hard as they could for victims rights but can't control the court process and in the end made a selfless move. In conjunction they will review all policies to insure they uphold victims rights to the fullest extent possible and have the highest expectations for all employees......yada, yada, spin-spin  

 

 

Not an exhaustive list by any means, just examples...........there are always reasons to settle involving each party.


In Topic: Zeke and NFL talking settlement

19 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

You guys made me actually LOL.

 

Pretty funny stuff, hopefully not serious because if so there is a fundamental misunderstanding about what this whole case is about and life in general.

 

There are ALWAYS reasons to settle on every side its just a question of whether the urgency is sufficient by both parties and whether they have the ability/motivation to meet in the middle.

 

There is no clearing your name (said like there is no crying in baseball)............ as a result of this case, Zeke and everybody involved knows that.......don't allow yourself to be spun by the spinsters.

 

Lets say this case plays out all the way, what is the result?

 

If the heavy consensus is correct Zeke eventually serves the 6  games anyway when the full case is decided this off-season. How does that clear his name? 

 

Even if he succeeds full on Rocky style underdog, and eventually wins the fullcase.................the result is that 6 game suspension gets overturned and the NFL can and will start the hearing process over again and include whatever evidence the courts decide would have been "fair". How does that clear his name?

 

The players agreed to allow Goodell to make those decisions and he will, that is not and will not be in question in this case and if he needs to make it again he will and Zeke will be punished.

 

Goodell can and will look at it all over again if necessary including all evidence and decide it should be whatever term he deems necessary, maybe even more games for that matter.

 

Goodell's right to punish is not in question in Zeke's case, only the process he used and whether the process is deemed "fair"

 

Zeke's name will never be clear regardless of what happens in court anyway, don't be naive.