The Real timschochet

You’ll never educate @Horseman who is truly an idiot. I’ve tried. The polling does NOT say Trump will win this election. Not yet. In the past week or so he has edged closer and appears to have some momentum. But he hasn’t overtaken her. The majority of polls still has Harris in the lead, both nationally and in the blue wall swing states- barely, but she isn’t behind.

And once again you repeat this disgusting wiah for all to see. You are truly awful.

But not the majority. Aggregate she’s still ahead.

Ny Times Siena Poll this morning: Harris down by 6 in Arizona, but up By 4 in Pennsylvania: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/upshot/harris-trump-polls-election.html Hey I’ll take it. Pennsylvania is way more important:

The author of this thread does not strike me as a lefty.

The difference between the reality of undocumented immigrants and the sheer fantasy that conservatives and Trump have created is wide enough to fill the Grand Canyon.

No idea but you demonstrate it on a daily basis.

No. He was not a fascist. He committed a wrongful act which was partly fascist. I don’t believe he intended to deport American citizens or legal people. Your hero does. That’s the difference.

His deportation of Mexican Americans was illegal and a fascist act, yes. A black stain on what was otherwise a great Presidency. Trump plans to repeat Ike’s mistake x100. Trump is a bad person.

Unless he’s right, and he is. And it’s the duty of the military to be insubordinate when the commander in chief commits treason or orders bad acts. That was the point of the Nuremberg Trials.

Not nearly as treasonous as the guy you voted for already for President. Not in the same ballpark.

A moment ago you were for deporting violent criminals and gang members. I’m with you there. Now you’re for deporting 15-25 million people. I’m not with you there and it’s never going to happen anyhow. But even to try is fascism.

Agreed. That is NOT what Trump is proposing.

Of course I do. Find them and deport them. But again I don’t believe Trump cares to distinguish. Fascists don’t distinguish.

Amazing. You guys are nuts. Shame on you.

How do you determine which is which?

No we won’t. Most people really don’t understand what Trump intends to do here. I can tell you don’t.

Really sad for you. Milley is a great patriot; what does that make you? You’ve strayed from your conservative roots. Wake the fock up!

@Horseman I agree with you that THE BOSS still has it. He still writes a good song now and then; he’s great in concert, and of course his political views (specifically about Trump) are dead on. So for once you’re right.

Right. And they’re not going to distinguish between actual gang members (who are few and far between) and anyone with brown skin. It’s focking scary. This is fascism 101. Here is General Milley, a guy who knows Trump well: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fascist-general-woodward-book-b2627972.html Milley is a student of history, he knows fascism. He called Trump the most dangerous guy ever. How can you and others ignore this?

And…Kamala retakes the lead in Michigan. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/10/11/michigan-2024-trump-harris-polls-harris-leads-in-latest-survey/ Back and forth we go…

I’m going to assume from your first paragraph, in which you draw a connection between rapes in Israel and rapes in Hollywood by the “Jewish led entertainment industry“, that you’re a rather vicious and ignorant anti-Semite of the @Cdub100 variety. Interesting to know. ETA I corrected some of your spelling. No need to thank me.

This is a good article reflecting the race at the moment: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/polls-kamala-harris-trump-honeymoon-b2627499.html The headline might be a little too negative for Harris (IMO) but the article itself seems dead on: it’s just too close to call. One thing that looks likely now: the Senate is going to go Republican because Tester is going to lose. If you listen to MSNBC they’ve basically written Tester off and are pinning their hopes on Texas. But I simply do not buy that Ted Cruz is going to lose that race. I’d love it if he did but I just do not believe in Democratic victories in the Lone Star state until they actually happen.

I have no opinion about Polymarket and I didn’t discount them, I only pointed out that their shift towards Trump seems to be almost completely based on one or two polls from Pennsylvania that show him ahead by a couple of points, within the margin of error. The majority of polls from Pennsylvania still show Harris ahead, or tied there. That was the only reason for my skepticism. But who knows? Whoever wins Pennsylvania is very likely to win the Presidency, I think we can all agree on that. Last month, based on trends, I was probably getting a little too overconfident about Kamala Harris’ chances. I predicted her success would be in 3 stages: first she would catch up to Trump. Then she would overtake him slightly. Then she would jump out to a commanding lead. The first two happened. The third one didn’t. After she slightly overtook him, he didn’t fall back as I anticipated. Instead he has stayed right with her, neck and neck, each day a different one in front. Now- guys like @Horseman and @Jon_mx seem confident that actually her momentum has completely died and Trump has taken the lead to stay, and that there is a hidden Trump vote ala 2016. Meanwhile there are liberals here and elsewhere who believe that Kamala is actually way more ahead than we think due to young people not being considered strongly enough by the pollsters- there is a hidden Harris vote ala 2022. Me? I dunno anymore. Obviously I really really want her to win and my views are probably shaded by that. I hope for the best. But if you’re asking me to project my thoughts remain defined by the thread title: dead heat.

Amazing- Rasmussen has Kamala up by 3 points in latest national poll: https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-surges-ahead-donald-trump-new-national-poll-1967821 If Rasmussen has her up by 3 she might be ahead by a lot more, lol. Their polls ALWAYS favor conservatives. (But then, compared to Trump, Harris is a conservative.)