The Real timschochet

More like thousands. I heard from the daughter of a friend of mine who attends Arizona State. (For any one who doesn’t know, ASU has more students than any other university in the USA.) She told me the Taylor Swift news was all over the dorms last night, much more than the debate, and everyone was energized and talking about voting. Sure most of these kids prefer Kamala anyhow but how many of them were going to vote? Now a lot of them will. And it’s a swing state. I actually agree that celebrity endorsements haven’t made any difference since 1960 when Sinatra and the Rat Pack endorsed JFK. But Taylor is unique. She is at a level of celebrity that is only matched in history by Elvis and the Beatles and she may be bigger than either. Yes this absolutely matters.

You’re seriously off on this one.

No polls taken within 24 hours are going to tell you anything. When I wrote near unanimous I was referring to political pundits on all sides. in a week or so we will see what the public thought. I am hoping for, and anticipating, a surge for Kamala Harris that will propel her to a close but firm lead in the swing states that will last through the election. Then when the election occurs I believe that, just in 2022, Democrats will perform much better than the even the polling says. We’ll see.

OK I forgot about The Daily Caller. Lol

There’s a whole other thread about the debate. Taylor Swift is huge news.

No, this isn’t a “each side says we won” thing. As I wrote the sentiment is almost unanimous. In a few days we’ll see what the public thought.

That’s pretty close. Those of us who don’t like Donald Trump have been trying to tell you for years now that he is a unique liar. All politicians lie and mislead and that includes Kamala Harris. But Trump is completely on his own level.

It’s almost unanimous opinion, from left and right, that Trump had a disastrous night.

Was there another one?

Yes. Absolutely. I am 100% positive of this. ETA also the story that he graduated #1 is total bullsh!t: https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/09/14/donald-trump-at-wharton-university-of-pennsylvania/ You MAGA idiots will believe anything.

The correct answer is “because we bought into this xenophobic nationalist nonsense. But as stupid as we are, Trump’s new tariffs will be far far worse and lead to an economic catastrophe.” I wish the moderators had pressed Trump more on tariffs because when I listen to him I honestly think he doesn’t understand what they are or how they work. He still insists every time that other countries will simply pay them without raising any prices on consumers. I don’t think he’s lying here I think it’s worse, that he actually believes it. He also again tonight displayed a total ignorance of how NATO is funded. Just amazing a guy could be President for 4 years and know less than most fifth graders.

Well @BudBro agrees with him.

I think that if you’re running for President and it’s 57 days from the election, and you’re asked what is your plan on healthcare, you shouldn’t say “I have a concept of a plan.” If you say that my response is going to be “what in the actual fock?”

Don’t think you’re right on this. In about a week I expect her to take a 3-5 point lead in most of the swing states and perhaps a 6-8 point lead nationwide. I’m probably over optimistic here (I usually am.)

I didn’t ask what Trump meant. I wrote what in the actual fock?

Umm…. i don’t think the debate is going to help things. Also Taylor Swift has just endorsed Kamala Harris

Do you have a plan? I have concepts of plans. What in the actual fock?

Conservatives have some very good ideas. We need a serious conservative candidate for President. Come up with one.

I think the fact that he refused to look at her is going to be brought up again and again. And I think his most embarrassing moment (there were many) was when he brought up Victor Orban as an example of a foreign leader who admired him. What the hell was he thinking?

Did they say that Biden won?

Not that part. The “why hasn’t she done it?” part.

Problem is he didn’t. He kept going and got worse.

Trump’s closing statement is his best statement of the night. ETA it started off good. Now it’s gotten worse.

Lived up to my expectations.

I’m sure she had made some misstatements, told some half truths, like all politicians. It’s not comparable, IMO, to Trump telling complete falsehoods (like the cats and dogs being eaten for example.)