The Real timschochet

They gave me the impression that while this was a close election that was mainly due to the electoral college and that only about 46% of the public supported Trump. They told me that Ted Cruz had a reasonable chance of losing and that Dems might hold on to the Senate. They told me that Latinos were still solidly in Harris’s corner. I could go on and on and on. Last night when I was watching MSNBC Joy Reid said “we all knew it was fantasy that Ted Cruz might lose. And we all knew Georgia and North Carolina were high hurdles for Kamala.” Well I didn’t know those things. And if they knew then they lied to me. And yeah this morning I’m pissed off about it. For years I’ve defended these people here and elsewhere. And I meant it, I wasn’t arguing just for the sake of arguing.

No. And while I won’t judge anyone else, when I am wrong I admit it. I was never as confident as @OldMaid, but I did make predictions and they were very wrong.

Miss her already?

Anyhow I’m going to bed. Depressing night. I need to stay away from politics for a while. Congrats to the winners.

I think if Trump won the popular vote and Harris wins the electoral vote (by somehow miraculously pulling out Pennsylvania) that would be the greatest result ever. ETA but it ain’t happening.

Because California hasn’t been counted right?

Why shouldn’t they? I’m an economic centrist and social liberal. I believed, and still do, that Hillary would have made a great President. I believe that Kamala Harris would make a great President. Meanwhile Donald Trump represents everything I’ve always detested: isolationist, nativist, anti-immigrant, anti- free trade. These are all core issues for me. Of course I’m going to oppose him.

RFK JR in charge of public health.

Remember that Atlanta vs New England Super Bowl? At one point in the 3rd Quarter ESPN had Atlanta’s odds of winning at 99.5%

MSNBC still optimistic about Pennsylvania. And that’s still the key.

I doubt you want to hear them tonight. Anyhow I’ve discussed this previously as nauseum. Let’s see what happens.

I will do that. @Jon_mx made all kinds of predictions. I thought he was crazy. Turns out he was crazy like a fox. Jon you deserve great credit. I am still holding out hope for a miracle but even if that happens your instincts were good. I still strongly disagree with your overall views, particularly about the media, but here is one bootlicker willing to admit: I think you were right. Feed me that crow. @Strike doesn’t deserve any credit at all. He never predicted anything, in fact he refused to make any predictions and ripped those of us who did (the liberal ones that is). Now he’s trying to claim he knew it all along. Shut up. What an idiot,

Shut up. What an idiot.

I’ve always seen Trump more as a bumbling idiot than a true threat to our democracy. That’s why I’m saddened by this likely outcome but not despondent the way some of my liberal friends no doubt will be. Not despondent but tremendously disappointed. I honestly believe that we are headed for very bad times ahead. I hope I’m wrong of course. If Trump indeed wins I wish him well and hope things turn out for the best.

If Trump is going to be our President, and the Senate is going to be Republican, I would prefer the House stay Republican. Let’s have a red wave. If that’s what the public wants let’s do it and see what happens.

Just shut up. What an idiot.

I changed the title. Who knows, maybe I’ll jinx it. Lol

Just shut up. What an idiot.

Trump wins Iowa. So much for the Des Moines register. Ted Cruz wins. This looks to be a great night for Republicans.

It is looking good for him at the moment. She’s just not getting the numbers in Lackawanna or Philadelphia that she needs. Still a lot of counting in Philadelphia though.

Yeah but also reminds me of 2020. Right about this time of night I was pretty down. But about 3 hours later things got better. So we’ll see.

I don’t like what Im seeing. Just being honest. I think you Trump fans should feel pretty good right about now.

My predictions are all still solid at this moment- I’ve got Trump winning North Carolina and Georgia and that seems more likely than not. But overall Trump is doing slightly better than I hoped he would so right now overall things look promising for him.

Let’s trade: LC for NC

The immediate call of Florida for Trump is surprising and very good news for him, obviously. News from Georgia is more mixed.