Sean Mooney

There is already a bill for this in Congress.

jonmx has said "Ashli Babbitt was shot in the back....the police office snuck up on her....she was outnumbered 50:1" Here is video from a Paramount+ documentary trailer....you can clearly see the gun is in front of her to the side. You can see when the guy shoots. You can see that the people breaking through the glass hear "He has a gun" and from other angles you can see some of the guys back off. She stupidly tries to climb through the window. Again- she fvcked around and found out.

You are just fundamentally wrong on this. He was standing there

Thought this was interesting: If those numbers are accurate then deporting 10 million illegals would be 109 billion dollars. I would assume with inflation and everything those numbers are higher. Let's assume 10% higher. Now you are at 119,900,000,000

He shot her in the shoulder you dope. He was in front of where she was breaching. The video is there. How can you be this wrong about it?

Oh 100%. When that ad started running I thought "That's a good tagline." Then it ran over and over and over....

This is just fundamentally inaccurate on almost every level.

I think the minute you take a worker who is off the books and replace it with a worker on the books you are raising your costs. That will get passed to a consumer in some way or another. That italian restaurant in the example may not feel community effects of the price change but they will feel more global effects. As a case in point- i posted this a few weeks ago- somewhere around half of the people who work on farms in the dairy industry are undocumented immigrants. There is also this in a story about dairy farmers in Idaho: You run the risk of like what happened to the coal cracker towns in the middle of Pennsylvania. Those towns were built around mining and they had everything within a few square miles. Then the mining dried up...and those businesses went away....then the local food shops started closing....then the drug stores.....then the other businesses......then the bars......once the fundamental core is gone- everything around it dries up,

Where was this mentioned and discussed? Like who provided those numbers.? Also, do places have numbers for other types of patients? Even still too- there wasn't a sense that Democrats were specifically going in and saying "Yes let's chop pee pees" in the same way of "Well this local project gets money from HUD."

That bolded part is one of those devil in the details type things. 1.) If we believe the entire premise of this past election was the economy and the price of things...I think it's a little wishful thinking to think people will say "Well yeah that 2 for 25 at Chilis is now 2 for 35 and it's cool. 2.) I don't think we can assign "rich" and "poor" in those manners. 3.) The problem is those "lower class" citizens don't want those jobs. There is an inflated sense of worth when it comes to these things. If someone graduated high school and gets a job washing dishes they should probably get paid minimum wage (whatever that number is). The problem is people want minimum wage plus for that job....because the alternative is sitting at home and collecting the benefits that are available and not doing anything.

Is the "interesting strawman" the argument you are putting forward?

When did Bernie not have socialist policies? Bernie is, and pretty much always has been, what people argue everyone on the left is.

How much revenue were they getting from it?

Also, don't pardon anyone- they were doing things they shouldn't have been doing and all of them went through court cases. You pardon them and you are opening floodgates for this stuff in the future.

Shoulder- back...I guess if you don't know anatomy they are the same thing. The cops retreated into an area. They barricaded that area. They told people they had guns and yelled for people to get down and back away. She continued to breach and was shot as a last resort. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I don't care how much she (along with the rest) was positioned as a martyr. She was doing something she wasn't supposed to be doing and she found out.

I guess we shouldn't "back the blue" huh?

I mean I don't think they actually wanted to cut them but were like "Hey it's cool if you want to get it cut off for yourself." Now if like there was a person put in charge whose role was "Head of Choppy Choppy Pee Pee"- then yeah that's a problem.

In the grand scheme of things I think where RFK Jr wants to cut stuff is far more dangerous than where Elon wants to cut stuff

I just assumed once the nagging starts you just swap that wife out for another one....

I'm in a cult? Which one? Is it like the "drink this bubbling kool-aid kind" or the "6 wives kind"? Seriously though- both far-leftists and MAGAites show cult like tendencies. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

A concern- well maybe two depending on how closely one thinks they are aligned together- I have about the 2nd Trump presidency is I'm worried they are going to overreach and try to do too much from a governmental cleanup side and won't understand some of the side effects of that. Look I'll never argue against there being waste in government agencies. There is- and being a Republican at heart I fully believe in a smaller government however, I have come to understand that there are aspects that we need government for and I think that should not be ignored even with their being bloat at spots. In Trump's first term there were people in place around him in spots that understood that government can't be completely gutted and they worked to keep some of those things in place. A lot of the chatter now is about Trump putting in guys who have loyalty to Trump and less to the institutions that help make government function. I know people love what Elon is selling about gutting branches- but government isn't poorly run because of too many people, it's poorly run because there is too much left hand and right hand not working together. Organizational structure overhauls are needed but gutting people will just put more work on more people and that won't make it run smoother. I know people love what RFK Jr. is selling but the FDA and EPA and all that serve a purpose. Are there things we can ease on or take a look at? Absolutely- but again gutting those branches into oblivion won't make things better and would most likely make things worse. I would love to see these government organizations have a hard look taken at them. Streamline processes, figure out where things can be done differently and more effectively, and set paraments going forward in a quasi audit situation. What is being set up though feels like "Just gut it all and figure it out later." Along with that I wonder who in the second term will be the one that has the courage to tell Trump "No" on ideas. Any leader needs someone to tell them "No" on some ideas. It feels like too much of this second term is already being built around "You get to do this, and you get to do that..." with people easily capitulating to it without any sense of pushing back. Basically "Don't tell me what to do and you can do whatever you want". Hell even over the weekend Trump made some comment about essentially pushing through cabinet appointments without discussion so he gets whatever he wants and sycophant Rick Scott (a leading candidate for senate majority leader) was like "Yes, I agree. I will do that, just give me the job everyone." That was within minutes he said that.

Part of that trickle up effect though is that a business who maybe had 10 employees that were illegal immigrants getting paid under the table now have 10 people getting paid more and on the books- so they need to raise the prices of things in order to keep their margins where they are. On an anecdotal semi-unrelated note- I'm friends with a guy who owns a roofing business. Good dude- hardcore MAGA guy. You go to his shop and there are tons of "Don't Tread on Me" flags, and the one with Trump as Rambo and all that, and 3 American flags on his property with signs that say things like "Love it or leave it." He does well and always has work. He has two teams that do roofs for him- of the 12 guys he employs- 10 of them are guys with questionable citizenship status. He has two white guys who are on his payroll as the foremen. He and i were pretty banged up one night and he was saying stuff like "It's great with these guys. I pay them peanuts and they just work like crazy." He also indicated at one point too that he can't get a "white guy" to work half as hard as those Mexicans even at twice the pay.

you do realize the exact same thing is argued about MAGA as it relates to Trump right? And the whole- conclusion jumping, moving goalposts, never admitting wrong....have you seen some of the more devout MAGA folks here post?

Horrible story. Lady was rightfully fired. They should obviously check how far this went up the chain. I assume it probably was not coming from up top as this seems like a site/local leader going rogue on their own....however, they need to make sure the orders didn't come from above her. Then leave. No one is tying you to this place.

You should just leave and create a second or third screen name to post under to have different personalities and conversations here.. that's what "life winners" do