Sean Mooney

Raiders wanted to bounce out of the conversation quickly after he got proven wrong.

Explain DEI. Avoid sweeping statements

So you chose the "I'll make up what you said and argue against it" style of debate.

I understand pretty much all of it. I see you aren't interested in debating any particular merits of it though.

Well intentioned but not fully thought out is a lot of political policy. Also, people not understanding DEI is a bigger issue than what it actually does.

I think I get the point Ron is trying to make- although I think the way he is making it is weird and undercutting him. Do we know there are defined looser restrictions for a prospective black pilot versus a white one. I mean I can see affirmative action or DEI in principle if you are at a company and someone gets promoted having a year of experience versus 10 years of experience solely because of the color of their skin. That is problematic. But for being a pilot- are they changing the test requirements for someone? Are they making the pathway easier for a black pilot? I guess the question is- are they truly hiring someone with limited flight hours because of the color of their skin. I somehow doubt that is specifically what is happening.

Honestly the most I ever hear about gay pride stuff is here....I didn't even know the parades still existed.

You could give me a thousand guesses and I'd never be able to tell you a location of a gay pride parade or what people wear there.

He is a troll. Treat him as such and it gets so much better here.

There were 13 home games in the NFL yesterday. 8 teams honored Charlie Kirk before hand: Those teams went 2-6. 5 teams declined to honor Charlie Kirk: Those teams went 4-1. The message is clear- don't honor CK, or maybe it was the universe retaliating for the fake stories that were populated about NFL players paying for Kirk's kids lives.......or a lot of shitty teams hosted home games yesterday.

I think one dumbass here celebrated CK being killed and they were roundly criticized by both sides here. The tranny/furry angle is more mocking the people on this site who are obsessed with that stuff and will latch onto it no matter what.

There is a difference between disagreeing with someone and dehumanizing someone. HTH

He did operate in dehumanizing groups of people using the Bible and its teachings as a weapon and divider. He did say some things that could be taken as racist as well. I get why people want to lionize him. Lots of people get lionized in death regardless of what they were in life. Kirk was an online troll who went out in public to deliver speeches and fake debate stuff and then edited it to make himself look smarter than the driven by emotion young college dupes. When he did run into someone who was able to rationally debate him he almost always got smoked and would get visibly agitated. And as I've said numerous times- before anyone tries to say otherwise- none of that makes killing him acceptable in any way whatsoever.

How do we know he wasn't just shot again?

I can create a silly, totally fake conspiracy theory over it all: The White House team wanted this to be all about the left attacking Kirk for his beliefs. Then there was evidence that he was potentially at worst influenced by the even further right Nick Fuentes (who Trump hosted for dinner and has praised) and at best was influenced in large part by social media and online troll culture (which is what Kirk trafficked in as well to a degree) and it did not fit the narrative as nicely as they wanted. So they circled the wagons and started putting out information to their online sycophants to spread about who Robinson "really" was in order to get the red meat they so badly wanted for their base. They got the governor of Utah in on it after he tried to stay above the fray in his first press conferences...probably offered him a quid pro quo of some kind Does that move the needle for ya?

The Russian posting bot is broken.....

If he was extreme right wing it's a shame he ruined his life like this, and even more of a shame he took someone else's life, over this stuff. He should've done like extreme right winger Horseman does here- make up 8 different names to shitpost on a fantasy football message board in between shifts at Arby's and whoring out his make believe wife. His life would still be awful, but everyone would be alive and/or not facing jail time.

The dude's name is unfortunate because there is a Tyler Robinson Foundation out there that was started by Imagine Dragons that helps to raise money to fight pediatric cancer. Of course there are a bunch of people leaving Google reviews with Charlie Kirk eulogies, criticizing the foundation for raising a killer, and other hateful messages...... Solid work Internet detectives.

That is most likely the one who donated money to Trump's campaign. I highly doubt a 17 year old was spending 225 dollars on a presidential campaign

I never said you would and I would never argue that all of the anti-government people are the same. I don't paint with a wide brush like some of the people here who are just as broken by politics as this kid was by whatever broke him. The dopey antifas in society now view themselves as the counter balance to the Proud Boys- who are also horrible people. As with a lot of things- these current people take a real thing and then alter it to fit their POV... Also, showing up at a rally isn't the barometer of agreement. I highly doubt a plurality, or even outright majority of antifas would say they support Biden or Harris.

Anti Fascists are often against all government. This isn't news. I mean the arrow things are video game based. The police report specifically talks about him being on some of those social media channels. None of that means he wasn't a leftist in the end. But what it does mean is if we are looking at how people get radicalized- we should also be looking at the wild west nature of the Internet.

I mean in the report it says that Robinson talked with a family member about his dislike for Kirk and the family member also talked about how Kirk says hateful things...Then the parents say the kid was "radicalized." That seems to indicate they weren't saying he was radicalized to the left per se. It would also mean some people on the right here would have to acknowledge that there is a discrepancy between someone being a Democrat and being a far left nutjob- if it were that he was radicalized left.

Antifascists are just as likely to be anti all government as everything else. I mean they don't really identify with liberals or the Democrat party either. Also, a bunch of sh!t stirring trolls on gaming forums and 4Chan and other weird dark corners of the web (including some weird sub Reddits) traffic in the "hey fascist" stuff. And as mentioned earlier- it's from a video game which is about troops spreading an autocratic democracy- kind of like Starship Troopers. I'll venture a guess the kid was anti-government or anarchist in nature.

Could be the disabled thing to throw off suspicion...no idea

He was fooled by the bullets stuff. And I already mentioned how a bunch of the bullet messages- including "Bella Ciao"- have become rooted in social media and Internet culture recently.