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  2. Posted

    18 minutes ago, weepaws said:

    Rodgers talk has became boring, just pick a team already.  Vikings would be his best move.  

    I can see why he doesnt want to sign in Pittsburgh.   they run a pretty conservative offense there.  My guess is he is not fond of playing that way.

    but hes at a point where he does not have a lot of options left unless he wants to leave some money on the table.

  3. Posted

    2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

    Rodgers to New Orleans is a possibility now. Not the Niners 

    Do the Saints have the cap space.  Last I saw they were in cap jail and at the time they signed Carr I was surprised they found the cash to THAT.  Not sure how they'd be able to find cash to pay Rodgers now.

    granted lots of things can change in a year or two so maybe I'm out to lunch on this but this feels like an unlikely destination. 

  4. Posted

    I like the scouting report.   

    I know blocking/blitz pickup is a bit of an issue, but hes a decent size back. so I'm hopeful he can get coached up on that (though admittedly it may take a while)

    with a smaller back that sort of thing is more of a concern as you need better technique to get the job done that way as a smaller back.

  5. Posted

    30 minutes ago, Mike FF Today said:

    Here ya go - NFL Mock Draft Version 3.0. We'll do one more on 4/22.

    wow awesome.  great customer service.   My request on the friday.  response before monday morning!

    thanks!   almost makes me feel like I have some pull and/or influence here lol  (though in reality, you probably were putting it out today anyway)

    cheers man   and thanks!

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  6. Posted

    3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

    This about sums it up.  My kids loved it, I thought it was decent.  Laughed a few times but overall it was kinda weird (I don’t play the game know some of the stuff).

    As far as kids movies based on video games I’d put the Mario movie an easy #1, with the Sonic franchise slightly ahead of Minecraft.

    agreed.    They even put a few jokes in there for the adults.   kids didnt get it but thats usually part of what makes those little bits of humor precious.

  7. Posted

    14 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

    Betmgm and Fanduel both have him going #2  as +8000. DraftKings has this at +185. Something is reaaaaally off on that

    I'd agree.  kid isnt a finished product.   

    dont get me wrong.  I really like him.  but given where he is at with his development he should not be going in the top 10.    There is more risk there than you want to have in a high first round pick.

  8. Posted

    7 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

    From who?

    The Niners front office says there's nothing to the rumors and that they are working on a Brock Purdy extension. They couldn't be more clear. 

    I think its mostly media speculation to be honest.  guys posting crazy rumours to get clicks online.    

    but if people click on those they will continue to publish more related stories.    The people who post these crazy rumours really dont care how true they are.   They only care that you and I click on the stupid article.

    obviously enough people care about the story otherwise the articles would go away for lack of clicks.

    I'm not in any way saying the story is likely to happen.   I'd say at best its a long shot.   when you see an article like this with no named sources I consider the article to be (largely) a made up rumour.

    I dont deny, at times where there is smoke there is fire.   But I'm skeptical that  this story is likely to happen.

  9. Posted

    1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

    Crazy guess. The saints give up their 10th overall this year and 5th rounder in 2027 to move up to 2 and take Dart. The jets the chargers and Giants all could take him before he gets to them. The saints need a qb with it looking like carr is out AND it he would bring a strong base of fans with him from his time with Mississippi that would likely travel and spend money to see him play. 

    I dont know about that.

    Whoever takes him will need to give him a redshirt year from the sound of it.    lots of things to clean up in his play and throwing motion.

    I do think the tools are there in the toolbox.   but you gotta fix these issues before throwing him out there.    I did like the observation that his deep ball accuracy isnt as good if he has to throw off his back foot or roll to his left.    I actually noticed the same feature in superbowl winning QB Hurts the first time he played the chiefs in the superbowl.   They forced him to roll to his left that whole game and the eagles lost that one.....    but that was not an issue the most recent superbowl because the presence of Barkley in the backfield prevented the chiefs from playing the same strategy(for the most part)

    either way,  I feel the best course of action would be a redshirt year to clean up all that stuff.     Usually when that is the case, the QB doesnt go in the first half of round 1.   its later in round 1 or early round 2.    So I dont think they need to pay to move up and get him.   I could be wrong.   but thats my thought on that matter.  

  11. Posted

    1 minute ago, kilroy69 said:

    His best place to land would be with the rams to be honest. Behind a starter who he can learn from. 

    yeah.  Stafford doesnt have much tread left on the tire (so to speak)    He could then sit for a year, watch, and learn.

    I dont mind Pittsburgh.   they are a borderline playoff team though their O line didnt perform exceptionally well last year (partly due to injuries) but I think the issues there can be fixed.

     

  12. Posted

    3 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

    His camp is now floating the idea that they do not WANT to be one of the top 3 picks because they would rather see him go to a better team. 

    Thats what I'd be saying if I were him too.

    the teams that are at the bottom (and have been so for a while) tend to make the same mistakes over and over and actually ruin more young QB's than they develop.   often this is a function of thinking they just need to get the QB some good receivers to throw to and O line is an afterthought.    I think for him to be successful he needs to not land with one of those teams.

  13. Posted

    1 hour ago, JagFan said:

    I watched a lot of Colorado the past two years because they were a fun team to watch.  If Sanders had time in the pocket, usually against weaker defenses, he looked good to great at times.  The biggest issue I saw was the o-line.  He never had one.  It was better last year, but still not good.  The jury is out for me, but with time to develop, behind a good enough line, I like his chances to be a good NFL QB, but not great.

    so far what I've seen is most of his mistakes happen when there is someone in his face.   I have not seen a ton of unforced errors.   granted the amount of tape i've seen isnt as large as I'd like.   but this is in line with a fair number of reports.    in many respects that is still a cut above a lot of NFL  QB.   take any middling NFL QB and cut out the unforced errors and you have an upper tier QB.   so if he can carry this trait to the NFL all you need to do is make sure he plays behind a good O line and has someone decent to throw to.

    sounds simple, but you'd be surprised how many teams find ways to complicate this.

     

  14. Posted

    I agree.  hes not special.   he is good enough provided the team around him is good.

    basically hes Dak Prescott. (though maybe a little better playoff performer than Dak has been so far)

    or possibly Kirk Cousins.   very good at his best but not elite.   maybe thats a better comparison.  especially considering playing style

    that said,  Dak also didnt have as good a team around him as Purdy did and Dallas for a few years was playing in the worst division in football, and looked better than they actually were.

    I fully acknowledge, Purdy still has room to improve.  he is young enough.    case in point would be Baker Mayfield.   hes been a bit of a late bloomer at QB and honestly he showed some moxie last year that I never truly thought he had.   he lost his #1 WR and #2 WR and still was able to perform at a decent level without them.    when I see something like that I think I actually place more value on him than I do on Purdy because of what he was able to do in the wake of adversity (in this case injuries to key members of the offense)

    granted Baker is still not well regarded because of his past performance, but the last 2 years have really opened my eyes with respect to how I evaluate the guy.

    he broke out but I attributed that (at least in part) to having top WR to throw the ball to.   but when those guys got hurt I really thought he'd be a writeoff, but he still performed reasonably.   Thats more than I can say about Brock Purdy.

    but I agree, they should sign him if they can.  key is to structure that contract with less guaranteed money so they can get out of that contract if he crashes and burns.

    I suppose the franchise tag is an option if they are not sold on him.  buy another year to evaluate him. 

  15. Posted

    8 hours ago, ICEMAN said:

    I just heard that Philly is working the backchannels for a deal that would land him. This begs three questions.

    #1 - Are they crazy?

    #2 - What percentage of the salary cap would Philly be paying it's WR's if this trade were to happen?

    #3 - Does Philly have a different cap number than all of the other teams?

    ICEMAN

    I think the only way this is feasable is if a certain amount of the contract/cap hit is eaten by the phins.

    If the phins cut bait.....   I honestly cant see them doing this unless there are other problems we do not know about.  (which is always possible)

     

  16. Posted

    2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

    To me, money is the issue.  I don't think that Purdy is worth $50M.  Apparently the Niners think so, well, that's their fault and it will hurt them in the long run if he signs.  Still, it seems like Purdy's agent (at least), seems to think Purdy is worth $60M.  IF other teams think he is worth that, then I'm sure there'll be teams lined up to give him that money and pony up multiple picks.

    Kapernick was a one-trick pony that teams figured out.  I think players like him... Trey Lance and RG3 are guys who people are buying the hype and getting excited by talent and not seeing the actual player.  Jimmy G actually played very well in San Fran, he got to a Super Bowl and NFCCG with less talent on his offense than Purdy did.  Deebo was a rookie and their leading receiver with 57 catches and 800 yards. Their best RB was Raheem Mostert with less than 800 yards.  Purdy had 1400 yard McCaffrey, Deebo was his WR2 and his WR1 (Aiyuk), had 1300 yards.  That offense was light years more talented.

    Yes, it absolutely does matter why your QB is playing great football.  If your QB is playing great because of the team around him, that means you're always going to need a great team around him to get results.  THAT kind of QB, you don't pay a lot of money to, because you need to invest it in his supporting cast.  If your QB is playing great because he's great, then you invest money in him because when things are optimal, he can still help you win.

    I think the issue is that Purdy is a 'system QB'   to be frank, there is Nothing wrong with that so long as you stay in the same system.

    Purdy's best value as a player is where he is.

    He might make more if he goes to another team, but his stats wont be what they were in San Fran.   I dont think anyone here would be able to convince me otherwise.

    At the same time, Purdy is ideally suited to the system they run in San Fran.    I dont think San Fran finds someone who is better (at least noone they have the ability to acquire)

    so I'd say this:   Both sides NEED each other.   Purdy can get the money elsewhere, but he wont get another top contract afterwards because his numbers drop off when he leaves San Fran.   Either way, most players want to play where they can be the best version of themselves.   so both sides need to figure this out.

  17. Posted

    8 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

    A 41 year old washed up Aaron Rodgers who hasn't won squat in forever or a young Brock Purdy who's already taken them to a Championship game and a Superbowl?? 

    That's not a tough question 

    yet the rumours persist.

    I'm with you.  I dont think its a smart move but I find it entertaining what kind of garbage rumours some people will latch onto.

    then again, if Purdy is asking for substantially more than he deserves that may point to the validity of the rumour.

  18. Posted

    21 hours ago, The Football Guru said:

    I completely agree. I think the way I described him somewhere was a nice drive down the fairway, but not one that gets you on the green off the tee. I think he will be a capable-to-good QB, but I don't think he will put a franchise on his shoulders or make good players look great.

    probably fair.   I figure hes an adequate to good starter but not elite.

  19. Posted

    1 hour ago, weepaws said:

    I would disagree, I think Rodgers had the weapons, and more so when they picked up Adams, Purdy was on the short end of weapons last season, cmc played four games, Aiyuk played seven.   

    I would rather have Purdy, over a semi retired nut like Rodgers.   

    for sure.  and given the age of the players. I dont see it happening.      but I can see why some would think its a good idea.   If I were the GM in San Fran, this is not a move I'd make.   though we also dont know how much money Purdy is asking for.   if the ask is for top 3 or top 5 money I'm not sure he should get it. 

    I suspect the Rodgers rumour is being leaked in San fran as a negotiating tactic to make the Purdy camp feel like they have alternatives.

  20. Posted

    10 hours ago, weepaws said:

    Pittsburgh has some good WRs imo.  They do not have a CMC. But I think Purdy would be a good fit imo. 

    yeah but a CMC and his threat to run and in the short pass game significantly changes how a team plays you.

     

    54 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

    63% comp, 3900 yards, 28, 11

    66% comp, 3900 yards, 20, 12

    One of those is Aaron Rodgers, the other is Brock Purdy (note, I rounded off some numbers).  Also, this is last season.

     

    yeah rodgers is the one with more TD.    I keep telling people his season wasnt THAT bad other than the yardage.   and honestly I expected the first couple games hed be a bit rusty.   tack on a couple hundred yards to account for that.    are we having the same conversation if he has 4100 yards along with 28 TD and 11 INT?   maybe.  but maybe not.  Jets lost a lot of one score games.  that might have made their win loss record almost palatable.

     

    and keep in mind Rodgers didnt have the weapons purdy had.   and one of his weapons arrived mid season.    it is a  tough thing for a WR to change offenses in mid season

    another drag on the offense to some extent.

    personally, with numbers like what Rodgers had, the team should have been a .500 team.   who really let them down was the defense.  I thought the D was gonna be top 5 and they were nowhere close.

    to that end, I can see why the rumour is there.   but the reality is that Rodgers is still on the wrong side of the age 40.   If you are San Fran the only reason you entertain this is if you truly think Purdy is not the QB of the future.    and you cannot have Purdy stay if you bring in Rodgers.   that would invite a QB controversy.  you need to let him go if you sign Rodgers.   but I suspect this is all speculation on a move that wont happen.    But Shanny does see things many of us dont.   so I wouldnt say its a lock not to happen.   but I think its more likely he brings in a retread first round QB who didnt cut it and tries to rehab him.    or if any of the top prospects at QB drop into round 2 maybe he takes one of them.

    but I'd be surprised if this ends up being the move.

     

     

  21. Posted

    1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

    This is why I say NFL fans are sheep for buying into the "franchise QB" crap.  If you have an elite QB, pay him... if not, never pay him.  Move on.  Paying guys like Dak, Jones, Mayfield, Darnold, Cousins, etc anywhere from $30M to $50M+ per year is wasting money and time.  If they want more than $10 to $15M AAV, let someone else pay them.  If by Y3, you don't feel your QB is worth a big extension/payday, don't pick up the option and draft a guy that year.  Let your guy compete with the kid and trade the veteran to a team willing to sell his fanbase fool's gold.

    Next year, Young, Stroud, and Richardson will be entering Y4 and will need their 5th year options picked up.  If those teams think they have a franchise QB, either give them a long term deal or trade them.  There's no need to wait the extra year.  If Stroud has a year somewhere between his rookie season and last year, I'm willing to bet Houston would get at least a first round pick and more for him.  Giving him $40M+ AAV isn't going to make your team better.  Save the money and build the rest of the team to help the new/young guy.

    I do agree to a point.

    you also need to consider the fan base too.

    Dak will never win a superbowl, but the team made the playoffs every year.    as long as that continues, I can see why the team wanted to re sign him.

    sometimes that process of drafting and developing a new QB can be real hard on the fan base.   and if you swing and miss, you are now looking at a minimum of 5-6 years until you are competitive again.    Thats an awful lot of revenue you are giving up to try to find THE ONE.

    though I think enough signs were there that Dallas likely should have bailed on Dak rather than give him that massive deal last year (was it last year?  might have been the year before)

    I do think Stroud is likely a keeper.    Mayfield I'm still on the fence.  he likely fits into the same category as Dak when Dak finished his rookie deal.   he probably gets TB into the playoffs.  I dont think he gets them a superbowl.   but for ownership, that might actually be good enough.

  22. Posted

    3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

    I watched his entire pro day. It was extremely average IMO. He couldn't hit guys in stride, especially beyond 10 yards. Receivers often had to slow down. That'll get a WR killed in the NFL. I'm not impressed. 

    That was all with no defense or pressure. 

     

    pro day is fine, but I actually prefer to look at game tape.

    a pro day doesnt necessarily do a great job of simulating game conditions.

    either way, when I see reports all over the map like this it generally means I need to look at the tape and see for myself.   no biggie there.  I enjoy watching football anyhow.

    when there is good concensus on a player I dont often come to a different conclusion when I watch the tape.    it does happen but not a lot.   for me, these are the situations where I do extra research simply because the opinions on the kid are all over the map.    That also means this is potentially where a large steal could be had because the player could be undervalued.   I've seen enough good traits in the scouting report that I feel extra research is warranted.    it may even be a situation where his value will largely depend on where he actually lands.  Nice thing about these guys who are ranked as a late first or early 2nd round pick is that they could actually be drafted by a good team and properly developed..   if drafted top 8 or top 10 its likely expected that the kid will see significant time on the field before his rookie year is done.

     

     

     

  23. Posted

    4 hours ago, DocNiner said:

    Yes, if the Steelers were able to sign Rodgers and put together a package to get Purdy I think they'd jump at the chance to get him. I just hope it doesn't happen as.I'm fine with Purdy being our QB now and in the future. There have been other QBs to win a superbowl who I consider not as talented as Purdy but it takes more than a QB to win a title. It takes a whole yeam both offensively and defensively. If the 49ers put competent people around Purdy on offense and Saleh can help the defense then I surely think Purdy will win a superbowl.

     

     

     

    I think purdy doesnt do as well in Pittsburgh.    he had some very good WR, a top notch coach, and a great offense as a whole.

    Pittsburgh just doesnt have all of those things.   and when things are missing from that combo a player like purdy could have his faults more exposed than before.

    I think in Pittsburgh he is meh.   a little better than Wilson was but not as good as he was in San fran overall.     the last year with CMC hurt and WR in and out of the lineup may be a better indicator of what he does in pittsburgh.   he wont be quite that bad, but That is likely more in the ballpark of the kind of numbers he would put up in Pittsburgh.

  24. Posted

    21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

    Really?  My son and I were excited for this until we saw the trailers.  I figured it would be terrible.  We still want to see it though.

    It was pretty decent I must say.   they also did a reasonable job of doing it in a way that people who dont minecraft will understand it.

    while its not the best I've ever seen its pretty good.   definitely worth a watch.

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  25. Posted

    2 hours ago, DocNiner said:

    Normally I would say that this deal could work but the problem I have with it is what to do with the 21st pick in the first round. Surely Ward is gone and likely that Shedeur Sanders is gone before pick 21. We'd have to have a plan in place in case Rodgers gets injured or completely falls flat on his face in terms of production. If we could take that 21st pick and move up some to take Jaxson Dart as I feel he could easily be gone by pick 21. Then there's still the chance that Rodgers plays better than average and gets then49ers into the playoffs. Yes he still has talent and 4 MVPs to his resume but he is 41 so I wonder if the talent he has left in the tank is worth risking just so he can play on the team he wanted to go to when he was drafted. In the end I would say NO to any deal for Rodgers and continue to roll with Purdy. If he fits Shanny's system then why not go with the guy you know can play. He did get himself to a superbowl so I'm pretty sure he's mega hungry and still has a sizeable Chipotle his shoulder to prove people wrong.

    I agree.

    if you dont have a QB, Rodgers is a nice gamble.

    if you do have a QB who is at least decent...... I'm not sure its worth the risk for a 41 year old QB who may or may not still be able to play.   

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