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  1. 3 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

    Everyone doesn’t have the same injury risk!  Brett Favre was not an injury risk, etc, etc,

    Jun 1, 2022 NFL Pedal Foot Fracture  Williams suffered a broken foot in practice.
    Sep 8, 2022 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Williams' injury surfaced in his NFL debut.
    Oct 15, 2023 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Williams was placed on IR prior to Week 7. He returned in Week 12.
    Jan 14, 2024 NFL Hand Metacarpal Fracture  Williams suffered the left hand injury in the NFC Wild Card Round. Surgery followed.
    Oct 1, 2023 NFL Inguinal Hip Strain  Williams picked up a hip contusion in Week 4 vs. the C

    agreed.  everyone does not share the same risk.  some players have more risk for sure.


  2. he still gets an NFL pension.  not sure how big that it, but it should be substantial enough that he wont starve.   as for the bankruptcy, I dont know that its a case where the poor cant afford bankruptcy.  its more a case of there is no point to going bankrupt.    The main reason to declare bankruptcy is to protect the equity in your home.  if you rent or dont own a home, there is no real reason to declare bankruptcy other than to keep the credit collectors from calling you.   


  3. 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

    Listening to the fantasy sports channel a bit lately, and a few shows have said that Corum is the guy to get.  They seem to think that Williams doesn't have the body/build to be an every down lead back and point to his multiple injuries in such a short time frame, as evidence of that.  They believe Corum has that body/build and is a more talented player... to which they think he could beat him out for the starting job.  Or, if the Rams feel that they don't want to make that depth chart switch, Williams get hurt, Corum would play too well in Williams' absence, to reduce his playing time when Williams gets healthy.

    maybe.   but they will run williams until there is nothing left in the tank.   hes not a big guy, so durability could be an issue for him moving forward.   once he gets hurt, then Corum will get a chance to show what he can do.

    for now its Willams job but the situation is worth watching.


  4. 14 hours ago, polecatt said:

    I guess he will help, but not as much they would like

    he will help in the sense that WR's on the team know how good they need to be to get playing time.

    hes just good enough to be on the field but not good enough to draft for fantasy.    Hes a third WR on most NFL teams.  4th WR on some


  5. 16 hours ago, weepaws said:

    Maybe, ff owners get nervous. 

    there will always be one or two highly risk averse people out there but as a percentage the # of people who care about this will be low.   

    Personally I dont even know that I'd re rank him at this point.

    biggest threat is hes not fully in game shape when he returns.    and that sort of thing fixes itself in a week or two


  6. 16 minutes ago, polecatt said:

    Right, nobody is gonna care that he missed a few weeks in May or June as long as he's healthy in August...

    Players often get knicked up early in the summer.

    If he's still on the injured list around August 20th or so, then it's room for concern

    there is always concern when a player misses camp but I dont think the team is changing the offense all that much and he knows the playbook.

    the only way I'd be real concerned is if he comes back and doesnt look great leading into the regular season.  at that point I'd be concerned the missed practices may lead to a slow start.  but its way too early to predict something like that.    its just something to watch for as the start of the season gets close.


  7. 3 hours ago, weepaws said:

    Yeah, Avg ff Qb.  In ff stats is where it’s at.  

    this is another one of those ones where I'd say hes a better Actual QB than he is a Fantasy QB.

    sure he had the one season where he had huge numbers, but in general, thats not who he is.    he wants the W more than he wants the Stats and his game will reflect that.


  8. 11 minutes ago, weepaws said:

    now he’s going late first rd , early second,

    honestly, this is probably where he should have been going all along.

    if he slides to mid 2nd or late 2nd it wouldnt surprise me a whole lot given the injury but I would not expect him to slide into round 3 very often.   dude is too good and a lot of people will be willing to draft him late round 2 even knowing he misses one or two games to start the season. (which is currently not projected to happen btw)


  9. On 5/17/2024 at 7:08 AM, TBayXXXVII said:

    2015 to 2022 (8 seasons), he ranked in the top 4 in come from behind wins 6 times.

    I actually thought he was ranked #3.  though the last time I looked at this stat was about 2 or 3 years ago.  its possible an active QB passed him on this stat since.

    but I remember when seeing this stat, my thought was there is more to this guy than stats.   To this day this is one of the reasons I defend him as a player.   This stat alone is a tough one to go against.   I'd rather have this stat than the gaudy huge yardage stats some QB's put up without getting wins.


  10. 1 hour ago, weepaws said:

    K Williams ADP has been going higher before this news.  

    this injury should throw a bit of water on that fire.   at least until he is healthy again.    Granted hes expected back before the season starts, so I dont know that it will affect his value a lot.


  11. 33 minutes ago, weepaws said:

    That’s the way I see it, those other guys haven’t proven anything.  But neither as McConkey at this time.  It’s a tricky situation, I know I wouldn’t draft Herbert , I don’t see a lot of positive outcome this season from him.  But he’s going to be a streamer at times.  

    well, someone in this offense needs to produce.   between McConkey, Chark and Palmer, one of them likely has a 1000 yard season.   possibly even two of them.

    but its a roll of the dice.     good news is none of them are going in the first 5 rounds of your draft so the Risk once you get late in the draft isnt all that high.   This is one of those where if you draft on the end (ie. #12) and if you run reasonably late   I'm betting you can get two of these guys to be your #4 and #5 WR knowing one is likely a performer and one likely a dud.


  12. 4 hours ago, jrokh said:

    Willing to bet Carr doesn't do it in New Orleans or anywhere else...

    Thats your opinion I guess.

    most of Carrs Career he had no legit #1 WR and had a bad team around him.    I assure you that doesnt help the stats.   

    with the exception of his last year with the raiders, the only guy he had to throw to for most of those years that any of you have heard of was Waller.

    yes, he was an average performer, but of all the average performers, hes the guy who had the least to work with in terms of talent.    I guess the question is whether he can up his game with better talent on the field.    We shall see.   obviously one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong.    hehe we can resume this discussion once our sample size in terms of games played in New Orleans is a bit larger.


  13. 6 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

    Wins and losses is not an official NFL stat for a QB. Prove that it is?

    this is silly.  I dont think I need to dignify this with a response.   I dont know how many times commentators on TV mention how many wins and losses a QB has in various situations (and overall)  a stat is anything that is quantifiable that people keep track of.      wins and losses are a stat.    and I'm not gonna participate in this argument further as Its such a stupid argument I feel my IQ lowering just by having associated myself with this debate (if you can call it such)


  14. 1 hour ago, weepaws said:

    In a 14 team non ppr he’s going to be a first rd pick.   This is going to be Henry’s last big chance season imo.  He’s on a super bowl contender.  

    ok I'm talking 10 to 12 team leagues.   Most people dont play 14 teamers.

    even so, hes on the cusp.    probably a 2nd round pick today but his ADP may rise.    it probably will if he has a good camp.

    for me it would depend on who is available.  at that point in the draft there are often at least one or two players who I felt should have gone earlier who are still on the board.   so depending on your draft format you may or may not take Henry at that point.

    personally I cant ignore the age thing.  I did it once with LT back in the day and regretted it a bit.   and I was quite sure he had one more year left in him.  turns out I was right as he had a resurgence in his age 31 season.    but thats another story.

    bottom line, the risk of the pick going down the toilet is higher than youd like when you are dealing with a 30 year old RB.   I'd take him with a 2nd round pick.  but I wouldnt do a first.   dont get me wrong, I dont blame you for taking him late in round 1.   I just wouldnt do it myself.    and I love Henry as a player.   Nothing used to make me happier than watching one of his patented goal line runs where hed stiff arm someone and then carry 2 or 3 guys trying to tackle him across the goalline with the ball and score a TD.

    but when the wheels fall off a RB at this age it tends to happen quickly.

    while I agree he probably has one more year in him.  I'm not willing to gamble a first rounder on that.


  15. 40 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

     

    Manning was named Super Bowl MVP in both championships,
    That's a Hall of Famer 8 days a week 

    it is.    2 superbowl MVP awards and 2 rings makes up for a whole lot of average to above average production.

    why? 

    because the whole reason teams churn through QB's (sometimes even decent QB's) is because they want one that they think can win them a superbowl.

    so the fact that Eli won one twice and was MVP both times?   you can put up with all the rest.  you take those 2 championships and be happy you have them.


  16. 18 hours ago, weepaws said:

    Rice would be the pick, if he’s able to play.  

    even if he plays, hes dicey.   lots of times when players have off field issues it affects their on field production.   Unless I get him for cheap I'm not buying.  someone else can have him.

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  17. 12 hours ago, weepaws said:

    He’s going to be a rb1.  And should be drafted as a rb1.  Right now is ADP is a second rd pick, that won’t last long. 

    it might last.   There is an awful lot of bias against RB's once they get close to the age of 30.   Granted that bias exists for good reason.   and the wheels have been known to fall off anywhere between the age of 29 and 31 with 30 being the most usual place where it happens.

    for that reason, I dont take him in the first round.   but if he falls to me in round 2 I'd probably take him.


  18. 4 hours ago, Gepetto said:

    Stop evaluating qbs on wins and losses, that’s not a stat for a reason and it’s a team sport. He’s gotten contracts with two teams to start at an in the NFL. That’s not being terrible. His brother was terrible.

    Technically it is a stat.

    and given the QB handles the ball on every play where you have the ball (other than maybe kicks)  I think Wins and Losses are definitely something you need to look at when evaluating a QB

    playoff wins and superbowls are also a stat.   arguably THE most important stat for a QB

     


  19. 42 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

    Eli Manning had 8 playoff wins in his career... some call it a HOF career.  All 8 of those, in a 16 year career, came in 2 seasons.  He was 0-4 otherwise.  Meaning, he made the playoffs in only 6 of 16 seasons, and won games in 2 of them.  Not saying Carr is an HOF'er (nor Eli).  Not saying Carr is better than Eli.  Just saying that pretty much all of Carr's metric's are solid.  During Carr's time in Vegas (LA), you'll never find a season where the defense ranked in the top 20 in both yards and points against.  Last year, they were top 10 in both defense and offense in points, both top 15 in yards.  They had a winning record, the same record as Tampa, and lost out on a tie-breaker.  Carr, in his career, hasn't been the problem.  I'm not saying he IS the "solution", I'm just disagreeing with you that he IS the "problem".

    yeah he played in a pretty dysfunctional organization in Oakland.

    the stats for any player on a bad team are never what they are on a good team

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