WhiteWonder

Bump. Officially open

SF 27 - CLE 24

it's a funny concept but you're right. wouldn't work for no cut events just because at the end of the day it would actually be more beneficial to just miss the cut than to make it and come in last. it might make for interesting side bets on occasion though.

I think it's all relative. Last year the Open championship winner was -14 and last place (among cut makers) was +12. a bigger gap than 1st to last in this event

unless missing the cut put you at 0 strokes

Packers already did the smart thing declining his 5th year option and signing him to that 1 year extension at less $$. Now they have seen what they have. Given what he did this year with a very young cast of weapons around him, aside from the backfield, and with a mostly injured Aaron Jones..... i'd expect him to get a big offer after next year, assuming he doesn't have some weird regression. Thats the luxury the Packers have but if all goes according to plan, $150M guaranteed at least.

hilarious if you had to pay each person in front of you a dollar per stroke difference. I'd owe Lager $5 and Jerry $3 Poor Daino would owe $109 spread out you want bithcing posts during an event, that would trigger it

Sort of went down a rabbit hole after reading an article on Rory's more recent backtracking comments regarding LIV. ... then to a response from Mickelson ... then one about Rory meeting with PIF and mentioning the team aspect of LIV. The world loves club soccer and golf is a global game. For the most part, Americans only care about the world cup.... barely. But we love golf and golf fans love the Ryder Cup, and to a lesser degree the Presidents cup. So do you think a league could ever gain traction largely because of that team golf concept that LIV has tried to adopt? In it's current form, I think it's just a slightly silly secondary or even tertiary aspect. But I do think there are some interesting things that could be done to make it much more appealing. 1. Come up with better club names. Crushers? Fireballs? Smash? . HyFlyers spelled Hy and the Iron Heads and Range Goats sound like single A baseball teams. 2. Less teams but larger teams. 12 teams with 4 golfers each and fluid rosters doesn't seem conducive to generating a following. 4 teams with 12, like 12 man Ryder Cup rosters might be more interesting. Even with annual turnover/trades you'd probably have a decent amount of team retention to start to build a fan base. Even a 6/8 split would be better. 3. What about non playing team captains? Has to be some older guys who would be interested in coming on board as club captains. And when the Mickelson's, Garcias, Stensons etc are done playing completely... they could stick around as club captains. Think about it, the 4 team captains riding around in carts talking to their players like we see during the Cups. 4. A season ending RC style event. Pretend it was 4 larger teams. Use the season standings to determine seeding. One week is #1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3 in a traditional Ryder Cup format. The next event pits the two previous winners against each other for the LIV Cup. interested if any of the golf fans have any thoughts, even the super anti LIV ones.

I think the vision LIV has, in terms of team golf, is that these teams would at some point have ownership groups like any team sport franchise. Imagine Mark Cuban owning the 4Aces. As presently constructed I don't think it would take off but I do think if they had fewer teams, comprised of more golfers, with better team names/logos....maybe. Their regular events would still be individual stroke play with a separate team element like it is now... but if they really want to push that angle, they should conclude each season with a RC style event among their teams.

keep my $50 and i will update the ledger

I'm talking more about the team concept as part of the entire golf league, more so than singular events where guys play as teams. It's what LIV is already doing, i'm just wondering if a few tweaks could lead to it actually gaining traction.

congrats @BiffTannen

Sentry FINAL 1. Lager -76 (-26, -25, -25) 8 edex points $225 2. Skids -74 (-27, -25, -22) 6 edex points $100 3. Wonder -71 (-25, -24, -22) 5 edex points $50 4. Patweis -67 (-28, -22, -17) 4 edex points 5. AliasD -63 (-23, -21, -19) 3 edex points 6. Edjr -60 (-25, -22, -13) 2 edex points 7. Cloaca -58 (-22, -18, -18) 1 edex point 8. Fumble -56 (-23, -19, -14) 9. Dain -52 (-24, -18, -10)

home now. scores incoming

I’m watching at my Dads, I thiiink you and Lager are pretty close right now. have to be careful what I say so I don’t trigger Ed…. Idk where I stand but Day had a fugly double earlier, Cole was rolling along but bogeyed 18, and I did see Scottie and Day both miss short eagles on 15 so I’m assuming I did not catch you guys hopefully I snag 3rd

Barn burner going on

I wouldn't want to see the Tour go in that direction, i'd be interested if LIV went in that direction since they already are. I just think it needs some tweaks. I also wouldn't suggest Ryder Cup format for anything more than a season ending event. The rest of the time would be events like they already have just with a greater emphasis on making their teams have more of that club soccer appeal.

Ah yes, Hillary Clinton. The epitome of class Don't confuse polished politician with class. No one should be suggesting that Trump is a polished politician. He's not. That is the main difference between him and 90% of other politicians.

Round 3 1. Skids -52 (-19, -18, -15) 2. Lager -52 (-19, -17, -16) 3. Wonder -50 (-18, -18, -14) 4. Patweiser -48 (-18, -17, -13) 5. Cloaca -44 (-15, -15, -14) 6. Alias -40 (-16, -15, -9) 7. Dain -38 (-19, -12, -7) 8. Edjr -37 (-17, -16, -4) 9. Fumble -37 (-17, -13, -7)

true democracy hasn't existed in a very long time

so the feather in Bidens hat is nothing more than the timing of when he took office? What great measures did he take to recover (not create) lost jobs that wouldn't have otherwise happened organically during the recovery process from any pandemic, under any president? does he have another feather in his cap to point to for his 2024 campaign? Honestly asking. Curious what he's really done. ...and no im not a "Trump guy" although given no choice but these two, I will vote for him again.

People continue to get an education because the world around us is ever changing. Math, Science, History, the Arts, etc are ever evolving. do the teachings of the lord change? sure, the bible may get revisions but don't the principles remain? preachers just invent new ways to apply those teachings so they can continue to push their beliefs onto others. God bless

i'm afraid you have as little credibility as anyone else on this message board as well. Idk why you are reaching here. I never made any claims on the amount of credit Biden deserved (credit for what, anyway?).

If someone lost their job because of Covid, and then found a brand new job that didn't exist before Covid, all that's been done is replacing one job with another (assuming their old position never returned). You havn't actually created an additional job in the workforce. As I'm sure has been mentioned a hundred times in this thread already, a lot of "job creation" numbers for 2023 are including people returning to work who were either temporarily laid off or terminated during the height of the pandemic. In many cases the word job recovery is much more accurate than 'job creation'... but job creation sounds better leading into an election year. Job recovery was bound to happen no matter which monkey was in office. I'm not really a trump guy but he didn't get the luxury of stepping into office ALREADY in the tailwind of a recovering stock market in 2021. That's what Joey got and still, managed to F it up for a quite a while. Inflation is still here, mortgage rates the highest they have been in nearly 25 years, inflation still the highest it's been since probably 2008.

if God can reach anyone and everyone, why do people preach? why do they try to "convert" others? Should be no need, God will reach them... If there is a need to spread his word, then you prove Raven's Fan's point.