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What is a fair draft compensation for Kelce & Hall
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Me neither, but he is 0-6 and has Hall and Kelce and I want them. You think he is unattainable? -
12-team PPR. The owner of Kelce and Breece Hall is going to find himself at 0-6 at the end of the day tomorrow. We keep 4 players at a 1-round penalty up to 3 times before they are thrown back in the draft pool. What is reasonable 2024 draft compensation to try and get that owner to give up Hall and Kelce? They would cost him his first and 2nd round picks to keep both next season so they aren’t screaming keeper values. Was thinking I’d offer him my 4th and 5th in exchange for his 13th and 14th plus the two players. Is that too weak an offer? This is a newish league and draft pick trading is still being sorted out.
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I'm trying to figure out how to value draft picks and if there's a good rule or website that any of you trust out there. I have 3x round 4 picks due to trades and I'm trying to package a couple of them for a round 2 pick. There are keepers that are already cluttering up the draft board so it's not a simple calculation, but basically I'm looking to jump up to a place where I could draft the #16 player and #100 player (by ADP) in exchange for giving up ADP #40 and 47. Any resources out there or do I just look at #16 and #100 and see if I like them better than #40 and #47?
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As it currently stands in this league, once a guy hits a round 1 value, you can continue to keep him as a round 1 value. I do believe that will change in the next season or two, but my primary concern is giving up Kelce, who is just so far beyond any other TE. Before the trade, my first two picks would be Kelce and then someone like Breece Hall. After the trade my first two picks would be something like Saquon/Lamb and Kupp. Then I just have to resign myself to someone like Waller in the 5th or Njoku in the 7th (based off many mocks with the keepers plugged in for all teams)
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With Kelce having such a monster season last year I’m having a hard time pulling the trigger. Talk me into just clicking “accept.” PPR keep 4: My potential keepers: Kelce (1st), Marquis Brown (9th), Etienne (10th), Fields (11th), Pacheco (12th), Akers (16th). I am not really considering Pacheco. I was offered Kupp (2nd round) for Kelce and Pacheco. This is a slam dunk accept, right?
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Because 48 players can be kept (including Jefferson, Chase, Kupp, Hill, Ekeler), if I were to throw Kelce back in, he would likely go at 1.2...currently the first 5 teams don't have a round 1 keeper and the top available players come draft day look like McCaffrey, Bijan, Diggs, Barkley, Lamb. I would probably be in line for someone like Saquon or Ceedee Lamb if I send Kelce back. I know those guys don't seem super sexy, but everyone gets pushed up due to so many keepers being retained at good values. Not sure if Mahomes will be kept or not in late Round 1...would be nice to figure out how to pair him up with Kelce.
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I'm in a PPR league that keeps 4 players with 1-round penalty each year, kept up to 3 years. Lots of guys off the board to start the draft, so currently planning on keeping: (non-snake) 1.6 Kelce 10.6 Etienne 11.6 Fields 16.6 Akers There are 2-3 teams that have 0-1 options for players to keep with any kind of value. I think I can try to entice them to give up draft capital in exchange for these guys: 9.6 Marquis Brown (4 round savings) 12.6 Pacheco (6 round savings...currently) 17.6 Njoku (9 round savings) The teams with slot 3 and 4 both have terrible options. I'm thinking I offer all 3 of these guys and maybe my 8th round pick in exchange for his 2nd round pick. I expect that pick to be Derick Henry, Josh Allen, Jonathan Taylor (if things are still weird), Breece Hall, DK Metcalf. Do you think this is fair? I have basically no experience trading keepers and draft picks.