The Moz 69 Posted June 16, 2005 surprised at my list of players still available. I never thought Cooley would be there at 3.10 -- then again I remember A. Gates going in the 3rd round last year as well. Not saying Cooley is a Gates but I think he might end up a top 8 TE this year. man this draft is rookie crazy. WOW. I know the first round would be all rooks but damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Well, this IS the rookie/free agent draft. That and the free agents available are ones that people chose not to pick up last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted June 16, 2005 I am here and ready to pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Well to some, selecting the Panther defense will not look like much. Having to deal my Eagle defense in order to slove my quarterback bye week hurt the position for team Demolition. Let's just say I have little faith in the Seahawks that came over as part of the deal. I felt that I needed another quality defense to platoon during the season with the Steelers. Having looked over the numbers, I was surprised to see that Carolina out scored that Philly defense in 5 out of the last six weeks of the season. They were second only to the Bills during the final three weeks. If they can put up another 2 points per game this season with some improvements, they will in fact be an elite Fantasy defense in our league. Again, not a sexy pick, but great value for a fourth rounder IMO just the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmoe33 0 Posted June 16, 2005 I was torn here. Hoping Frye unseats Dilfer (shoudln't be too hard) at some point this season...at any rate..it is the 4th round so not much risk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmoe33 0 Posted June 16, 2005 When can we start free agent pick ups? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Well to some, selecting the Panther defense will not look like much. Having to deal my Eagle defense in order to slove my quarterback bye week hurt the position for team Demolition. Let's just say I have little faith in the Seahawks that came over as part of the deal. I felt that I needed another quality defense to platoon during the season with the Steelers. Having looked over the numbers, I was surprised to see that Carolina out scored that Philly defense in 5 out of the last six weeks of the season. They were second only to the Bills during the final three weeks. If they can put up another 2 points per game this season with some improvements, they will in fact be an elite Fantasy defense in our league. Again, not a sexy pick, but great value for a fourth rounder IMO just the same. I wanted them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Well to some, selecting the Panther defense will not look like much. Having to deal my Eagle defense in order to slove my quarterback bye week hurt the position for team Demolition. Let's just say I have little faith in the Seahawks that came over as part of the deal. I felt that I needed another quality defense to platoon during the season with the Steelers. Having looked over the numbers, I was surprised to see that Carolina out scored that Philly defense in 5 out of the last six weeks of the season. They were second only to the Bills during the final three weeks. If they can put up another 2 points per game this season with some improvements, they will in fact be an elite Fantasy defense in our league. Again, not a sexy pick, but great value for a fourth rounder IMO just the same. I wanted them! Who don't you want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted June 16, 2005 Well to some, selecting the Panther defense will not look like much. Having to deal my Eagle defense in order to slove my quarterback bye week hurt the position for team Demolition. Let's just say I have little faith in the Seahawks that came over as part of the deal. I felt that I needed another quality defense to platoon during the season with the Steelers. Having looked over the numbers, I was surprised to see that Carolina out scored that Philly defense in 5 out of the last six weeks of the season. They were second only to the Bills during the final three weeks. If they can put up another 2 points per game this season with some improvements, they will in fact be an elite Fantasy defense in our league. Again, not a sexy pick, but great value for a fourth rounder IMO just the same. I wanted them! Who don't you want? Good point. Seriously though they were my target in the 3rd round until Jackson fell to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW412 0 Posted June 16, 2005 I will be around most of the night but I don't feel like sitting at the computer. I will check in every once in a while to see if Shox is done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted June 17, 2005 Well with my last pick I decided to go with Andrew Walter. Over the last 3 years he's put up better numbers than every other QB in this draft. In his three years as a starter, he has racked up over 10,000 yards and 82 TDs. He has been known to throw a few interceptions but he has improved each year. While he probably won't play this year (he hurt his shoulder), I like his chances to take over for Collins who turns 33 this year. The kid is 6'6" 235 and behind that o-line and with those receivers he could be REALLY good for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted June 17, 2005 Nice pick on Reed. You needed a reliable kicker and I think you got one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted June 19, 2005 The last pick in any draft should you own it, is really a funny situation. You look at your team by position, look at how you have filled positions via the draft and trades, then scour free agency over and over again. All this in order to make a 4.12 in a four round draft. Many will look at the selection of Ben Watson and say why the hell did he draft a back up to a supposed top 12 TE in Graham? The answer is simple, many people, including those within the Patriots front office feel that this guy is truly a blue chip football player. He is an incredible athlete who can catch and run downfield. We did not have the opportunity to see a rookie season out of Ben last year, but you will see in very short order why New England used another first rounder on Tight End after having done so the previous year with Graham. They simply could not pass up this kids value that late in the first. I too cannot pass up on value here. The Pats will run many two tight end sets this season. They have revamped the playbook in order to get this young talent involved. For a team who rolls over the NFL at will, to decide to create numerous plays for a guy who has yet to have his rookie season under his belt, tells me that player is something special. We had a guy like him years ago named Coates. I will not jump the gun and say this is the next Ben Coates, but I will say that I think he will own this position, on this team by years end, and certainly for the 2006 season. And I love Graham. This guy will look like a man among boys. You heard it here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wuerffel for MVP 0 Posted June 19, 2005 I like Graham too, but are you really gonna keep 3 tightends on your roster? I can't believe that you'd start Watson over Gates or even Boo. BTW great draft guys. Seems like everyone got players they like (or need in some cases). Is it September yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Lou 0 Posted June 20, 2005 Never said that I would start any player over Gates. I think he is the best tight end in the league. Ben Watson on the other hand has the tools to be a fantastic dynasty back up. I do know that he will be a weapon that Brady will use more than some may think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
