Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Maybe you can trade away your 3rd for 3 more 4ths That would be nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krokus 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Steven Jackson is overrated! There I said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 24, 2006 Steven Jackson is overrated! There I said it. Jessica Alba is overrated! There I said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinciman7 2 Posted May 24, 2006 Jessica Alba is overrated! There I said it. Take it back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 24, 2006 Take it back I just thought it was appropriate to reply to nonsense with more nonsense. Hence the Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Updated: Updated: 1.01 LJ 1.02 LT 1.03 Shaun Alexander 1.04 Edge 1.05 Steven Jackson 1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick) 1.07 Portis 1.08 Lamont Jordan 1.09 Rudi Johnson 1.10 Caddy 1.11 Ronnie Brown 1.12 Mcgahee 2.01 Westbrook 2.02 Dom Davis 2.03 Steve Smith 2.04 Chad Johnson 2.05 Peyton Manning 2.06 Torry Holt 2.07 TO 2.08 Fitzgerald 2.09 Harrison 2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too) 2.11 Boldin 2.12 Julius Jones 3.01 Antonio Gates 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 My Pick RBs still left: Kevin Jones, Fragile Fred, Reuben Droughns, Warrick Dunn, Thomas Jones, Ahman Green, Curtis Martin, Deshaun Foster, Dominick Rhodes, Rookie RBs, Fast Willie Parker etc WRs still left: Ward, DJax, Chris Chambers, Reggie Wayne etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 0 Posted May 24, 2006 how about jamal, sweetness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 24, 2006 how about jamal, sweetness? Sorry forgot about him.....Reggie Bush got taken right now..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 0 Posted May 24, 2006 i think you're looking at a RB2 here, then with your two 4th rounders, drafting the likes of Driver, SMoss, ROY, Plax, etc. would be a pretty strong roster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 25, 2006 i think you're looking at a RB2 here, then with your two 4th rounders, drafting the likes of Driver, SMoss, ROY, Plax, etc. would be a pretty strong roster Yeah but which one is the tough question to answer ..... maybe I should just pick Chambers or Darrell Jackson and move on Jamal has TD + yardage potential but except for his 2000 year season, he has never had > 6 TDs Warrick Dunn is solid and catches passes too (though he only had 29 last year) Fast Willie Parker has the yardage potential but TDs are again a concern Reuben Droughns has the yardage and he catches passes too, but not many TDs (last year at least) Kevin Jones - who knows what we will get from him ..... especially with Martz throwing the ball 2 out of every 3 downs Chester Taylor - great OL, but new system and will there be a RBBC to worry about here. Also, can he play one full season as the man.....he never had before.....injury concerns if he does. Also can he punch in TDs at the goal line or will Fason vulture him??? Deuce McAllister - Clear RBBC concerns ....can be goal line back so TD potential for sure Corey Dillon - Could easily be a great pick at this point but Maroney RBBC concerns and injury concerns. Ahman Green - yikes.....OL concerns, RBBC concerns big time, injury concerns Fragile Fred - Not too many TDs in recent past.....used to catch a lot of passes but does not anymore Addai/Rhodes - which one to pick??? Deshaun Foster/DeAngelo W - which one to pick??? Tatum Bell/Ron Dayne - which one to pick??? Thomas Jones/Cedric Benson - which one to pick??? Chris Brown/Lendale White - which one to pick??? Curtis Martin - does he have any more 1000 yards left in him ....team around him stinks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-jb- 0 Posted May 25, 2006 I like Jamal or Kevin Jones. Sadly, I think you can get more production out of some of those "combos" you have listed below, but it obviously costs an additional pick. We had a few of those over the last few years (eg Henry/McGahee), but it seems like people are reaching for both guys way earlier this year. Not worth two 4th rounders, and I don't believe you'll get both otherwise. 3rd - Lewis or Jones 4th - 2 WRs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
***NED*** 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Could you keep your first post updated? TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Chester Taylor - solid value here. Better health and in fact less competition than Jamal, though JLewis as your RB2 is fairly sound. I'd narrow it down to Jamal Lewis (best team around him if McNair's there) Reuben Droughns (crap team, but he's going to get the carries and yds - not so many TDs) Dillon (and be prepared to grab Moreny in a few rounds) or Barlow. (just kidding...that one was for ***NED*** - lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ratbastard1 0 Posted May 25, 2006 you have Moss. Now you'll be looking for a #2 WR and a TE, both of which can be found later. You might think about going for big RB depth here. Figure your looking for your #2 RB and can take 2-3 guys who are at least 2.5-3s with high ceilings. Take a bunch and let them battle for your RB2 slot. RB depth is good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 25, 2006 you have Moss. Now you'll be looking for a #2 WR and a TE, both of which can be found later. You might think about going for big RB depth here. Figure your looking for your #2 RB and can take 2-3 guys who are at least 2.5-3s with high ceilings. Take a bunch and let them battle for your RB2 slot. RB depth is good! My gut tells me to pick a Jamal Lewis or Warrick Dunn or a Reuben Droughns here and then pick a sleeper later like Ahman Green or Curtis Marti or some rookie like Maroney or DeAngelo W or maybe even someone like Cedric Benson I hate these RBBC crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2006 Honestly I'd go for one of the combos because of their teams and situations. Either the Dillon/Maroney combo or the Rhodes/Addai combo. Could you get the Colts combo in starting in the next round? Since your draft is so early I'd stay away from the Jones/Benson combo since you may end up wasting a pick on Jones. Lewis and KJ may not be bad but I would think the Patriot or Colt running back would be great to have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted May 25, 2006 S 34- I like the draft positions you gained in making that trade, but I cant say Id have taken Moss. Gambling on a 9th year receiver coming off back to back injury plagued seasons involving hamstrings and groins is playing with fire. Add to that, Oakland is undoubtedly one of the worst teams in the league right now with a new HC and a new QB in Brooks who's not exactly a brainiac looking to pick up a new offense. This will be another miserable season for the Raiders imo, so you'll have some fun watching Moss crying about the losing on Sportscenter every other week. He only had 60 catches last year. The year before that 49. His TDs were nice but 13 of those came from Culpepper, and this is a PPR. Those are low catch totals for a #1 WR. Do you know exactly what kind of offense Art Shell is going to be running this year and his history with WR production? How many games do you think Brooks will actually play before Al pulls the plug on him? Wow. What are you basing your 'bounce back' season on with Moss other than Brooks 'throwing a nice deep ball'? So now you have a RB playing the most difficult schedule in the NFL and a WR whose statistical trend and age are heading in the wrong direction. The rabbit out the hat trick would be my next recommended move. By the way, if the NE RBs are still available, Id go after them. Dillon will absolutely be carrying the load still this season, but if he gets hurt, Maroney could cover for him nicely. You seem to like 'bounce back' years.....Dillon is due for one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted May 25, 2006 i agree with the previous poster about moss. what exactly was your trade down anyways? as for your upcoming pick, have you considered taking another WR? think of it this way -- youre going to want to take your 3rd RB coming up pretty soon, probably by the 6th or even 5th round. well youre left with a lot of crappy RBs right now. so what if you waited and took your two RBs in the 4th, or one in the 4th and one in the 5th? it seems to me that you are having a hard time differing between a lot of these RBs, and rightly so. so what if 5 of that group is gone before you pick again? you already dont know which ones you like, and chances are that no one else does either, so it will be a random group that goes. meanwhile, there are only a couple really quality top notch surefire WRs left. youve got a couple guys listed who are sure things for points. if you go with a WR here, you could have yourself two top-7 guys at WR. then you take two RBs, and as long as one of them hits, you now have a pair of top 15 RBs and a pair of top 7 WRs. just a thought. those 4th round WR types have a pretty bad history of succeeding. look at last years lot. its guys like roy williams, andre johnson, etc. sure, a couple in there will hit, but a lot will miss too. imo if you dont get the top 8-10 WRs, you may as well wait another few rounds, or its like throwing darts. figure if you wait that jones, j lewis, dunn, and dillon will be gone, plus probably 2-3 other wild card picks. if you really like one of those first four enough, then you have to take a RB. but ask yourself if you're sure enough about those RBs to end up with a riskier WR, or if you'd rather take the sure WR points and wait for a later RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2006 S 34- I like the draft positions you gained in making that trade, but I cant say Id have taken Moss. Gambling on a 9th year receiver coming off back to back injury plagued seasons involving hamstrings and groins is playing with fire. Add to that, Oakland is undoubtedly one of the worst teams in the league right now with a new HC and a new QB in Brooks who's not exactly a brainiac looking to pick up a new offense. This will be another miserable season for the Raiders imo, so you'll have some fun watching Moss crying about the losing on Sportscenter every other week. He only had 60 catches last year. The year before that 49. His TDs were nice but 13 of those came from Culpepper, and this is a PPR. Those are low catch totals for a #1 WR. Do you know exactly what kind of offense Art Shell is going to be running this year and his history with WR production? How many games do you think Brooks will actually play before Al pulls the plug on him? Wow. What are you basing your 'bounce back' season on with Moss other than Brooks 'throwing a nice deep ball'? So now you have a RB playing the most difficult schedule in the NFL and a WR whose statistical trend and age are heading in the wrong direction. The rabbit out the hat trick would be my next recommended move. I think these are all great points about Moss and you build a strong argument. I'll bet, however, that you could build similar arguments against any one of the other wr's taken ahead of Moss. Everyone has something that they're dealing with. Also, you could build a case for at least 8 wr's this year to put up the best wr numbers. I believe that personal preference could get in the way of clear thinking sometimes. Moss has every bit as much chance as the others to be the top performing wr.....so....with that knowledge, Sweetness chose to drop and pick up draft picks and positions. I agree that it may burn him, but I think it was a logical move for value's sake. Again, on the trade Sweetness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted May 25, 2006 I think these are all great points about Moss and you build a strong argument. I'll bet, however, that you could build similar arguments against any one of the other wr's taken ahead of Moss. Everyone has something that they're dealing with. Also, you could build a case for at least 8 wr's this year to put up the best wr numbers. I believe that personal preference could get in the way of clear thinking sometimes. Moss has every bit as much chance as the others to be the top performing wr.....so....with that knowledge, Sweetness chose to drop and pick up draft picks and positions. I agree that it may burn him, but I think it was a logical move for value's sake. Again, on the trade Sweetness. Imo, its all about limited risk, thats all. Larry Fitz was on the board. What are his risks again? His team actually has a RB now to help get this team in position to score more TDs this year, and he had over 100 catches, and he's entering his third season. Fitz put up #s last year even when that scrub McCown was QBing. The famous 3rd year stud WR theory is just overwhelming in this case. Randy Moss = Awful team + New Head Coach + New QB (with a somewhat dull bulb) + Owner with a quick trigger finger = a whole lot of RISK and uncertainty. It will be interesting to see now who those 'supplemental' picks and improved draft slots turn out to be. Dont get me wrong Sweetness, Im pulling for you. I just think you need to be extremely solid from here on out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2006 Imo, its all about limited risk, thats all. Larry Fitz was on the board. What are his risks again? His team actually has a RB now to help get this team in position to score more TDs this year, and he had over 100 catches, and he's entering his third season. Fitz put up #s last year even when that scrub McCown was QBing. The famous 3rd year stud WR theory is just overwhelming in this case. Randy Moss = Awful team + New Head Coach + New QB (with a somewhat dull bulb) + Owner with a quick trigger finger = a whole lot of RISK and uncertainty. It will be interesting to see now who those 'supplemental' picks and improved draft slots turn out to be. Dont get me wrong Sweetness, Im pulling for you. I just think you need to be extremely solid from here on out. - Fitz now could be losing catches to Edge, the new TE, as well as Boldin. - Warner is "Mr. Glass" and will most likely get hurt again because the Arizona line is still terrible and then they're screwed. I can personally tell you being a U of M fan that John Navarre is horrible and doesn't belong in the NFL. And Hollywood Matt will not be effective this year yet. - Teams will be scheming on gameday on how to stop Fitz in the red zone in particular because of last year. He'll get more attention. Meanwhile... - Moss will still be the unquestioned "man" in Oakland. The man upstairs in the velour sweatsuit will make sure his puppet coach is aware of that. - Aaron Brooks is more mobile than Warner and has had decent success in the recent past. Also, if he gets hurt, Walter may be a pretty decent backup and could turn into a solid NFL QB. - Defenses aren't as scared of Randy as they once were and that could be to their detriment since Moss is still only 27 and could still have quite a few great years in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatorbait7391 0 Posted May 25, 2006 wow, pretty interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Updated and now it is my turn (Jamal just went) Updated: 1.01 LJ 1.02 LT 1.03 Shaun Alexander 1.04 Edge 1.05 Steven Jackson 1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick) 1.07 Portis 1.08 Lamont Jordan 1.09 Rudi Johnson 1.10 Caddy 1.11 Ronnie Brown 1.12 Mcgahee 2.01 Westbrook 2.02 Dom Davis 2.03 Steve Smith 2.04 Chad Johnson 2.05 Peyton Manning 2.06 Torry Holt 2.07 TO 2.08 Fitzgerald 2.09 Harrison 2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too) 2.11 Boldin 2.12 Julius Jones 3.01 Antonio Gates 3.02 Reggie Bush 3.03 Reggie Wayne 3.04 Jamal Lewis 3.05 My Pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjanson 0 Posted May 25, 2006 This is a 12 team redraft league and has 10yds/1pt rush/receiving; 6 pts/TD for rush/reception; 4 pts/TD for passing TD (Roster requirement = 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DT, 1 K) I am picking at 1.06, and guess what.....the 1st 14 picks....all freaking RBs 1.01 LJ 1.02 LT 1.03 Shaun Alexander 1.04 Edge <--------------------------------Too high 1.05 Steven Jackson 1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick) 1.07 Portis 1.08 Lamont Jordan 1.09 Rudi Johnson 1.10 Caddy 1.11 Ronnie Brown 1.12 Mcgahee 2.01 Westbrook 2.02 Dom Davis 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 My pick Just wanted to share what a crazy draft this is......no WRs taken yet and no Peyton gone either......I am inclined to take a stud WR to go with Tiki and hopefully there will be some decent RB left to be the #2 RB later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Ditka 0 Posted May 25, 2006 I think Fast Willie Parker is a steal here. No Bettis around to steal the 1 yard plunges! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2006 I'd strongly consider Dillon, with Maroney coming later. Also, I'm not sure where Rhodes/Addai's ADP's are. Will either get chosen when it comes back to you next round? If you don't like giving up the extra pick KJ may not be bad or Chester Taylor. Personally, drafting in May, I'd feel best about the Dillon/Maroney combo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Ditka 0 Posted May 25, 2006 There is not Parker/Staley combo. It is fast Willie's pill to carry in Pittsburgh and you know Cowher will run the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinciman7 2 Posted May 25, 2006 I'd go Tatum Bell here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Chster Taylor has the least questions and most upside of any back remaining, IMO. No RBBC, OC who uses a feature back, GL carries, excellent receiver, has been wanting an opportunity to prove himself so he's hungry, good team around him, solid but unspectacular QB who will lean on the ground game and a D to keep them in games and give them field position. I'd grab Chester Taylor here and not think twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peens 0 Posted May 25, 2006 I think Fast Willie Parker is a steal here. No Bettis around to steal the 1 yard plunges! He has Staley, haynes or Humes for that. Believe me, Cowher will find someone to steal those 1 yard TD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted May 25, 2006 - Fitz now could be losing catches to Edge, the new TE, as well as Boldin. Cmon, man. Seriously. This is like saying TO could be losing catches to Julius Jones. - Warner is "Mr. Glass" and will most likely get hurt again because the Arizona line is still terrible and then they're screwed. I can personally tell you being a U of M fan that John Navarre is horrible and doesn't belong in the NFL. And Hollywood Matt will not be effective this year yet. Nobody cares about John Navarre because Leinart will be the #2 from the get go, and these guys in AZ are the best he's ever seen, and considering where he's coming from thats quite a compliment. Yeah, I think "Hollywood" will be just fine under the helm. - Teams will be scheming on gameday on how to stop Fitz in the red zone in particular because of last year. He'll get more attention. Teams were scheming all last year too, without the threat of any kind of running game, and how did young Larry do again?? right, ok. Meanwhile... - Moss will still be the unquestioned "man" in Oakland. The man upstairs in the velour sweatsuit will make sure his puppet coach is aware of that. The man upstairs is wearing a jumpsuit. Thats all thats needed there. - Aaron Brooks is more mobile than Warner and has had decent success in the recent past. Also, if he gets hurt, Walter may be a pretty decent backup and could turn into a solid NFL QB. Aaron Brooks is an absolute garbage, stop gap QB who had every Saints fan for the past 5 years pulling their hair out. That team will be lucky to win 4 games with him under center. - Defenses aren't as scared of Randy as they once were and that could be to their detriment since Moss is still only 27 and could still have quite a few great years in him. Randy is not 27.....he's an OLD 29 and he's no longer young, he's no longer AS fast, and he's no longer playing on turf in a dome.....and his QB is a scrub...and his backup is WHO again?? Im done here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted May 25, 2006 i see about 5 different people recommending 5 different RBs. time to grab that WR and take a pair of RBs int he next few rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted May 25, 2006 i see about 5 different people recommending 5 different RBs. time to grab that WR and take a pair of RBs int he next few rounds. Strange logic. The RBs that people are recommending are all above and beyond what he'll have available at his next pick. If there were 14 different RBs being recommended, this would make sense....but the fact is that someone like CTaylor is likely to be a much stronger RB2 than anyone left on the board when it gets back to him next round. The math doesn't work like that....taking two crappy RBs in the 4th does not add up to the value of one solid RB in the 3rd. The WRs available in the 4th will be starters on their teams. Can't say the same for the RBs available to him there. Take a CT, then if Dunn or FWP is around at 4.xx, jump on that like a fat kid on a ho ho and suddenly he has 3 solid RBs and 2 strong WRs in the first 5 picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2006 - Fitz now could be losing catches to Edge, the new TE, as well as Boldin. Cmon, man. Seriously. This is like saying TO could be losing catches to Julius Jones. - Warner is "Mr. Glass" and will most likely get hurt again because the Arizona line is still terrible and then they're screwed. I can personally tell you being a U of M fan that John Navarre is horrible and doesn't belong in the NFL. And Hollywood Matt will not be effective this year yet. Nobody cares about John Navarre because Leinart will be the #2 from the get go, and these guys in AZ are the best he's ever seen, and considering where he's coming from thats quite a compliment. Yeah, I think "Hollywood" will be just fine under the helm. - Teams will be scheming on gameday on how to stop Fitz in the red zone in particular because of last year. He'll get more attention. Teams were scheming all last year too, without the threat of any kind of running game, and how did young Larry do again?? right, ok. Meanwhile... - Moss will still be the unquestioned "man" in Oakland. The man upstairs in the velour sweatsuit will make sure his puppet coach is aware of that. The man upstairs is wearing a jumpsuit. Thats all thats needed there. - Aaron Brooks is more mobile than Warner and has had decent success in the recent past. Also, if he gets hurt, Walter may be a pretty decent backup and could turn into a solid NFL QB. Aaron Brooks is an absolute garbage, stop gap QB who had every Saints fan for the past 5 years pulling their hair out. That team will be lucky to win 4 games with him under center. - Defenses aren't as scared of Randy as they once were and that could be to their detriment since Moss is still only 27 and could still have quite a few great years in him. [/b] Randy is not 27.....he's an OLD 29 and he's no longer young, he's no longer AS fast, and he's no longer playing on turf in a dome.....and his QB is a scrub...and his backup is WHO again?? Im done here. Like I said before, you have a decent argument. Also, I was under the impression that Randy was 27, not 29. 29 is still far from over the hill for a wr in the NFL. I may not discard some of my points as quickly as you but that's your choice.....your opinion. As I stated before, I like this trade for "value" sake. I think it was wise, especially for a draft in May. Bottom line Solo.....can you guarantee me that Fitzgerald is going to outperform Moss this year? If not, then it seems to me the trade was pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxx 0 Posted May 25, 2006 : thoroughly enjoying watching this real draft in may since mine is months away: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Yes folks you can call me a puss, loser, whatever but I went with more of a sure thing here......I looked at the rosters of the folks drafting ahead of me until my next pick and I do not see more than 6 RBs being taken.....so there is a chance someone I still like at RB2 will fall to me in the 4th (otherwise I will load up on RBBC folks and get one freaking RB2 out of it) I picked Darrel Jackson.....very good offense, very good QB, solid OL, freaking easy schedule (NFC West, AFC West and NFC North....are ya kidding me???) and the main target for Hasselback ..... in a PPR league, he will be gold (bad knee notwithstanding ) Wish me luck folks.....I took the path less followed.....I got a knot in my stomach right now but I hope to get it right when it is all said and done PS: I considered Chambers too but the thought of Culpepper being out and Suckington throwing the rock in a new offense, I passed. ========= Updated: 1.01 LJ 1.02 LT 1.03 Shaun Alexander 1.04 Edge 1.05 Steven Jackson 1.06 Tiki Barber (my pick) 1.07 Portis 1.08 Lamont Jordan 1.09 Rudi Johnson 1.10 Caddy 1.11 Ronnie Brown 1.12 Mcgahee 2.01 Westbrook 2.02 Dom Davis 2.03 Steve Smith 2.04 Chad Johnson 2.05 Peyton Manning 2.06 Torry Holt 2.07 TO 2.08 Fitzgerald 2.09 Harrison 2.10 Randy Moss (my pick after trade down from 2.07 => got up from 3.05=>3.06 & 4.10=>5.06 too) 2.11 Boldin 2.12 Julius Jones 3.01 Antonio Gates 3.02 Reggie Bush 3.03 Reggie Wayne 3.04 Jamal Lewis 3.05 Darrell Jackson (My Pick) 3.06 Chris Chambers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Strange logic. The RBs that people are recommending are all above and beyond what he'll have available at his next pick. If there were 14 different RBs being recommended, this would make sense....but the fact is that someone like CTaylor is likely to be a much stronger RB2 than anyone left on the board when it gets back to him next round. The math doesn't work like that....taking two crappy RBs in the 4th does not add up to the value of one solid RB in the 3rd. The WRs available in the 4th will be starters on their teams. Can't say the same for the RBs available to him there. Take a CT, then if Dunn or FWP is around at 4.xx, jump on that like a fat kid on a ho ho and suddenly he has 3 solid RBs and 2 strong WRs in the first 5 picks. if dunn or fwp or ct is around at 4.whatever, then thats the point exactly. you figure a couple of them are going to be there with two high 4s (which i think he has). the difference in WR is big though. theres a couple WRs left that are pretty cash-money picks. look at the 4th round WRs from the past few years. the bust potential is incredible. getting one here who is consistent and a near sure-thing is much more important than getting a RB you like a tiny bit more than one you can get at the next pick. if you take the RB here, then you should be content with the RBs you have and take two starting WRs next. but if you you take a WR here, you get two top notch starters, and then you have one star RB and two good potential ones to play off of. just the way i view the picks here. its not like someone really valuable has slipped this far and is a steal here at RB. the best value is at WR, or possibly tony gonzalez. the fact that you can make a good case for about 5-10 RBs is a good reason to wait and take RB #7 and #9 out of that group and take a top shelf WR now imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2006 Not so sure about Jackson over Chambers. Obviously your thinking was the RB wasn't worth it here and you'll get a decent RB next round? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted May 25, 2006 i agree with the strategy, just not the pick. djax has injury history, plus they just added nate burleson who is a pretty similar player, so that would concern me. chambers and ward look like top shelf to me, and i'd have gone with them, but i agree with getting that top WR here and waiting on RBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Not so sure about Jackson over Chambers. Obviously your thinking was the RB wasn't worth it here and you'll get a decent RB next round? Yeah that was my thinking. The thought of Culpepper not being ready and Harrington throwing to Chambers in a new offense drove me away from Chambers Again, I see very little risk (health) with DJax. The #1 passing target in the #1 offense in the league (with a stud RB), playing against crap defenses all year (NFC West twice, NFC North (except Chicago all are mediocre at best), AFC West (Oak, KC, SD and Denver can stop the run, not so much the pass)) And he has a solid solid QB who loves to throw to him. AGain, safe pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites