Stephen Davis leaves STL without signing contract

[football_scooter 0]

Yes, I saw almost every Rams game last year. And Martz wasn't the coach for most of the season. Reason he wasn't used more was because he wasn't going anywhere on the carries he did get or the Rams fell way behind. Don't know what winning streak you're referring to either. Rams didn't win more than two games in a row all season.

 

pwnd.

 

Devildog, I think you & I were the only ones who watched SJax last year....the crumpling on contact, the nagging injuries...the lack of consistency....yep, all adds up to a top 6 draft pick to me.

 

NOT!

 

 

To the SJax lovers, here's SJax YPC, on a game by game basis...see if you can spot a trend:

3.2

5.2

4.0

1.7

4.5

5.2

4.9

7.2

4.0

0.5

4.4

2.2

3.5

5.1

1.8

 

Just kidding - there is no trend. He was all over the place, which is exactly what I don't want out of my #1 FFB pick.

 

Oh, and that stellar 1.8 ypc he ended with (the "strong note" referred to) was against the 49ers...the worst D in the league. 28 yards on 16 carries in a 24-20 loss. Stellar.

 

In fact, he failed to break 100 yds (actually failed to break 82 yds) the last 4 games of the season. In that span he scored a whopping 1 TD. Way to finish on a strong note, SJax.

 

One thing's for sure....while we all have opinions, some of us have brains to back them up. The rest just seem to have a stack of magazines that tell them who's valuable. Because analyzing the team around him, the ability he's shown (or lack thereof) the lack of durability, and the 2nd half results he produced with a similar O-Line last season, I see a late 2nd round pick.

 

 

SJax lovers: Convince me I'm wrong using something other than hyperbole, I dare you. Give me stats, examples, and sound reasoning - otherwise please stop pimping this turd as a top 6 fantasy back.

[football_scooter 0]

crickets.

[dreadlocks34 0]

Anyone other than the top 3 back lovers: Convince me I'm wrong using something other than hyperbole, I dare you. Give me stats, examples, and sound reasoning - otherwise please stop pimping any running back not in the top 3 as a top 6 fantasy back.

fixed

[football_scooter 0]

fixed

 

I am actually high on the following "non top-3 backs":

Tiki Barber

Ronnie Brown

Rudi Johnson

LaMont Jordan

Edge James

Cadillac Williams

 

 

and many more.

 

I would take any of the above at 6 over SJax.

 

I just happen to think SJax is a big steamy turd who plays on a mediocre team and gets WAY too much respect in fantasy circles. And that respect, near as I can tell, has to do with the initial hype when he was suppossed to step in and be the next Marshall Faulk.

 

It's a tip that he's not, nor will he ever be.

[dreadlocks34 0]

 

I am actually high on the following "non top-3 backs":

Tiki Barber

Ronnie Brown

Rudi Johnson

LaMont Jordan

Edge James

Cadillac Williams

and many more.

 

I would take any of the above at 6 over SJax.

I can guarantee that many other people who have or don't have certain players on their teams will make similiar arguments about all those guys. Barber-has Jacobs, probably last season. Ronnie Brown-struggled second half last season, never been full time guy. Rudi-knee could go anytime, Palmer injury. Jordan-offensive line, Brooks. James-terrible terrible line, lots of wear, got contract no need to play every play. Cadillac-Alstott, injuries last season.

[nicewolf64 0]

I havent decided on how I'm going to rank the RBs yet, but it seems that some are purely looked at by their stats last year, while others are pure emotion. none of us know who will or will not perform this year. There are a billion things that can make or break anyone's season. So how 'bout when we al disagree, that we pretend we are not trailer trash and keep the name calling where it belongs......aimed at TO.

[football_scooter 0]

I can guarantee that many other people who have or don't have certain players on their teams will make similiar arguments about all those guys. Barber-has Jacobs, probably last season. Ronnie Brown-struggled second half last season, never been full time guy. Rudi-knee could go anytime, Palmer injury. Jordan-offensive line, Brooks. James-terrible terrible line, lots of wear, got contract no need to play every play. Cadillac-Alstott, injuries last season.

 

true my dreaddy friend...but I will say that most of them (Caddy/RBrown aside) have proven that they can get the job done.

 

Jordan's O-Line is no worse than it was last year, and after Shell tossed them out of practice, they looked pretty darn good.

 

Tiki is showing no signs of slowing down and Jacobs was there last year and didn't stop him from being a top RB.

 

James O-Line in Indy wasn't that great at run blocking, but the passing game opened it up - sound familiar?

 

Rudi's knee is funny...you mean the knee that he played on all year with a partially torn meniscus? If that's him hurt, I'll take my chances on him post-op any day.

 

What's SJax's excuse from 2005? "Irritated sandy vagina" doesn't cut it.

 

 

 

I havent decided on how I'm going to rank the RBs yet, but it seems that some are purely looked at by their stats last year, while others are pure emotion. none of us know who will or will not perform this year. There are a billion things that can make or break anyone's season. So how 'bout when we al disagree, that we pretend we are not trailer trash and keep the name calling where it belongs......aimed at TO.

 

and lol

[nicewolf64 0]

true my dreaddy friend...but I will say that most of them (Caddy/RBrown aside) have proven that they can get the job done.

I would disagree. Neither has proved they can make it thru an entire year as the primary ball carrier. Altho I'm more concerned about Caddy getting hurt again than I am that Brown will.

 

Jordan's O-Line is no worse than it was last year, and after Shell tossed them out of practice, they looked pretty darn good.

Good point, but the first team o-line looked like it couldnt block a gaggle of girl scouts. Almost every play had numerous defenders in the backfield. Really worries me about Jordan and Moss.

 

Tiki is showing no signs of slowing down and Jacobs was there last year and didn't stop him from being a top RB.

 

James O-Line in Indy wasn't that great at run blocking, but the passing game opened it up - sound familiar?

In Indy, Edge rarely got hit in the backfield and was good for 3-5 yards every carry with the occasional longer run. It used to drive me crazy when I'd be watching stats and he'd have like 20-78, then end up

25- 108. Luckily, Indy seemed intent on getting him his 100 yards no matter what the score was.

 

Rudi's knee is funny...you mean the knee that he played on all year with a partially torn meniscus? If that's him hurt, I'll take my chances on him post-op any day.

Having just had mine go from sore to cripple in the last 3 months, these injuries now scare the heck out of me. But until I went thru it, I also thought it was no big deal (heck I was supposed to have been a simple op, now it looks like I have 2 or more in my future)

 

What's SJax's excuse from 2005? "Irritated sandy vagina" doesn't cut it.

Game conditions? I saw him play a few times last year and I liked the way he got his yards. But I think its still going to be an air game in StLouis so that keeps him down in my opinion.

 

And for the manditory insult................TO who??? Love how Glenn and Bledsoe are already in mid-season form.

[football_scooter 0]

I would disagree. Neither has proved they can make it thru an entire year as the primary ball carrier. Altho I'm more concerned about Caddy getting hurt again than I am that Brown will.

 

Uh, which is why I said, "Caddy/RBrown aside" - it's right there in your quote.

 

That means, "excluding those two guys, the rest (Rudi/Edge/Tiki/Jordan) have proven that they can do the job".

 

get it?

 

 

 

TO smells like BO!

[nicewolf64 0]

I totaly misread that, time to find my glasses.....lol

 

TO's knee is in danger of swelling as big as his head

[WoodDuck2003 0]

football_scooter, you bring up some good points about his yds/carry. Lets look at this, with Martz and Faulk he had an avg of 4.1 ypc, over 1,000yds rushing and 8 TDs. Receiving he had 7.1 ypc, 43 rec and 2 TDs.

 

Last season he only avg 16.8 rushes/game and 2.3 rec/game.

 

Just for giggles lets look at some stats. An average starter in the NFL gets approx 20-22 rushes/game and lest say he contributes 4 catches as well (only slightly over 1 catch/game over last year).

 

1pt/10yds rush; 1pt/10yds rec; 6pts/rush/rec/TD; 1pt/rec

 

Using his 2005 yds/carry of 4.1 if he only does the league avg of 20-22 rushes/game he would end the season with 1,443 rushing yds and since the coach has stated they will run the ball more this should be a safe assumption. Now lets just say that all these extra rushes only produce an additional 2 TDs, which is not likely, but for argument sake we will estimate low. This means he would get approximately 204 fantasy points rushing the ball.

 

Using his 2005 rec numbers lets say he catches only 1 more ball per game using his 2005 yds/catch. This means he would have 64 receptions for 448 yds. Now if he equals he 2005 rec TDs he would have 2, I do not think this is a stretch at all. This means he would also get 48pts for yds, 12pts for TDs and if you are in a pt/rec league an additional 64pts for receptions.

 

Add all of this up and his fantasy points projection for 2006 are around 328. If you are not in a pt/rec league his total would be around 264. I do not think anyone would argue that in a league that does not reward pts for reception that his value is less but still very good. Now put those pts on your draft board and see where he falls? I would venture to say that with out a doubt he is a top 8 RB with the upside to move into the top 5-6 but not in the top 4. He for sure is no a late second round pick.

 

Again, JMO but since you had some stats I wanted to use your stats to project 2006 based on what the new head coach has said, not an opinion, in how he plans to use S.Jackson. I know injuries are a risk but even the best sit out games (LJ, Priest, LT, etc.) S.Jackson played in 15 games last season.

[WoodDuck2003 0]

Oh yes and not to mention, in the 2 games where he had those extremely low yds/carry he touche the ball 11 times in one game and 10 times in another. Now when you breakdown the games where he got over 17 touches he had very good yds/carry. As most good runners the more they get the ball the more they get into the rythm of the game.

 

vs. IND 5.2 yds/carry 88yds (17 carries)

vs. JAX 7.9 yds/carry 179 yds (25 carries)

vs. PHI 4.9 yds/carry 82 yds (16 carries)

vs. SEA 4.3 yds/carry 147 yds (34 carries)

 

seeing a trend, just kidding. By the way I was trying to be funny not personal. I think this is the stuff that makes this site so great. I just wanted everone to see both sides of how stats can look. Everyone has to make their own decison but there are a lot more to stats than stats. But the above stats show that one he can handle the 20-22 touches per game, he can run against tough run D's which these all are and the more he plays the better he runs. Again, sorry if you thought I was taking it personal I was just playing devils advocate.

[devildog 0]

Oh yes and not to mention, in the 2 games where he had those extremely low yds/carry he touche the ball 11 times in one game and 10 times in another. Now when you breakdown the games where he got over 17 touches he had very good yds/carry. As most good runners the more they get the ball the more they get into the rythm of the game.

 

vs. IND 5.2 yds/carry 88yds (17 carries)

vs. JAX 7.9 yds/carry 179 yds (25 carries)

vs. PHI 4.9 yds/carry 82 yds (16 carries)

vs. SEA 4.3 yds/carry 147 yds (34 carries)

 

seeing a trend, just kidding. By the way I was trying to be funny not personal. I think this is the stuff that makes this site so great. I just wanted everone to see both sides of how stats can look. Everyone has to make their own decison but there are a lot more to stats than stats. But the above stats show that one he can handle the 20-22 touches per game, he can run against tough run D's which these all are and the more he plays the better he runs. Again, sorry if you thought I was taking it personal I was just playing devils advocate.

 

Chicken or the egg. You could just as easily argue that the reason he didn't get more carries in those games was because he was singlehandedly killing drives getting a yard or two per carry. You want to keep the other team honest but you can't keep feeding a guy who's not going anywhere.

[VaTerp 0]

Chicken or the egg. You could just as easily argue that the reason he didn't get more carries in those games was because he was singlehandedly killing drives getting a yard or two per carry. You want to keep the other team honest but you can't keep feeding a guy who's not going anywhere.

 

Bullchit. So Jackson is the reason that the Rams liked to throw the ball so much in the Martz era?

 

Rb's dont single handedly kill drives in the NFL unless they fumble. Running the ball is like going to the body in boxing. It pays off in the long run. The Rams did not operate like that under Martz and it had nothing to do with Jackson's lack of succes.

[devildog 0]

Bullchit. So Jackson is the reason that the Rams liked to throw the ball so much in the Martz era?

 

Rb's dont single handedly kill drives in the NFL unless they fumble. Running the ball is like going to the body in boxing. It pays off in the long run. The Rams did not operate like that under Martz and it had nothing to do with Jackson's lack of succes.

 

Martz wasn't the coach for most of last year And yes averaging a yard a carry for 10-15 carries will kill a lot of drives. Quickly puts you into second or third and long. And with the Rams defense it also quickly puts you behind in the game with the D being on the field a lot.

[VaTerp 0]

SJax lovers: Convince me I'm wrong using something other than hyperbole, I dare you. Give me stats, examples, and sound reasoning - otherwise please stop pimping this turd as a top 6 fantasy back.

 

Im high on Jackson this year b/c he finished as the 10th Rb in my scoring system despite the fact that he was underutilized.

 

Here's some stats for you. In goal to goal situations Jackson ran the ball 18 times for 41 yards and 7 Td's.

Not bad for someone who "crumbles at contact" and not good at the goaline like you say.

 

 

I am actually high on the following "non top-3 backs":

Tiki Barber

Ronnie Brown

Rudi Johnson

LaMont Jordan

Edge James

Cadillac Williams

and many more.

 

I would take any of the above at 6 over SJax.

 

I just happen to think SJax is a big steamy turd who plays on a mediocre team and gets WAY too much respect in fantasy circles. And that respect, near as I can tell, has to do with the initial hype when he was suppossed to step in and be the next Marshall Faulk.

 

It's a tip that he's not, nor will he ever be.

 

Who said that Jackson was the next Faulk? They have completely different styles. Sounds like something you made up.

 

And lets compare Jackson's goal to go stats to those of the 6 you would take above him.

 

S. Jax- 18 car. 41 yds 7 TD's. 2.28 ypc and a TD for every 2.57 carries.

 

Tiki- 22 for 37 and 1 TD. 1.68 ypc and a TD for every 22 carries.

 

Ronnie B. 12 for 34 and 3 TD's. 2.83 ypc and a TD for every 4 carries.

 

Rudi- 32 for 67 and 10 TD's. 2.09 ypc and a TD for every 3.2 carries.

 

Lamont- 27 for 45 and 8 TD's. 1.67 ypc and a TD for evey 3.38 carries.

 

Edge- 39 for 81 and 12 TD's. 2.07 ypc and a TD for every 3.35 carries.

 

Caddy- 13 for 42 and 4 TD's. 3.23 ypc and a TD for every 3.25 carries.

 

So inside the 10 Jackson averages more ypc than everyone except Caddy and Ronnie. (the 2 guys with the least attempts) and his TD percentage is the best among this group. Yeah but I know, you and Devildog were the only ones that watched him last year and he's the worst RB evah.

 

Like others have said, after the top 3 you can make an argument for or against any number of backs. Your hatred for S-Jax is getting old.

 

If you dont like the guy then fine. But why do you put so mush energy into talking chit about him?

 

Im sitting at the 8 spot and if S-Jax falls to me I will take him gladly.

[football_scooter 0]

Martz wasn't the coach for most of last year And yes averaging a yard a carry for 10-15 carries will kill a lot of drives. Quickly puts you into second or third and long. And with the Rams defense it also quickly puts you behind in the game with the D being on the field a lot.

 

Glad you mentioned that.

 

I pointed out that the Rams D is a concern, and so far you're the only one who's said anything to that point.

 

Any time I consider a top 6 RB, I have to imagine that they are on a team with a solid enough defense to keep running the ball.

 

WoodDuck2003 makes some solid points - logically speaking, and if the game were played on paper, I'd agree.

 

But the game is played on the field (turf, at home) and the Rams D sucks. How exactly is SJax going to get 20-25 carries a game on a team that plays from behind?

 

I'll call the the "Frank Gore Question". we'll use a mediocre back like Greg Jones on the Jags to compar...

 

Jones - mediocre 250 lb "plodder" RB, great defense = good FFB RB

Gore - Great RB, bad defense = bad FFB RB

 

It's all about the carries, just like WoodDuck2003 says....but that can easily be turned into a negative.

 

As for the coachspeak, quick - name me a coach who hasn't said that they "want to get [insert RB here] 20-25 carries a game". I won't hold my breath - they all say it every year.

 

Other concerns: a guy who has trouble staying healthy playing half his games (more, now that AZ is inside) on fake turf.

 

Just saying...there seems to be a hell of a lot more going on against SJ than the other RBs I've mentioned. People keep saying that after the "big 3" the rest are interchangable. I call BS.

 

If you dont like the guy then fine. But why do you put so mush energy into talking chit about him?

 

Im sitting at the 8 spot and if S-Jax falls to me I will take him gladly.

 

1. Because I'm bored and it's fun to stir the pot.

 

2. I would to. But what would you do at 6th - that is the question.

[WoodDuck2003 0]

I would agree with the chicken/egg comment but Martz does not start off running the ball. Usually they get behind passing then try to run in the middle. Most teams I would say you are right b/c the goal is to establish the run early, but not STL. Under the Martz era running was second.

 

This year should let us see the real S.Jackson either we see that he is the true stud he was projected coming out of college or we find out he can not handle the load of the #1 RB position. My bet is by season's seasons end he is in the top 10 forsure and possibly the top 5.

 

I guess we will see but if I were in a redraft league and had the 6 pick I would take S.Jackson over R.Brown, L.Jordan, R.Brown, etc. I would have to assume that the first 5 are LT, LJ, SJ, Portis, Barber. Maybe not Portis now with the injury.

[devildog 0]

Im high on Jackson this year b/c he finished as the 10th Rb in my scoring system despite the fact that he was underutilized.

 

Here's some stats for you. In goal to goal situations Jackson ran the ball 18 times for 41 yards and 7 Td's.

Not bad for someone who "crumbles at contact" and not good at the goaline like you say.

Who said that Jackson was the next Faulk? They have completely different styles. Sounds like something you made up.

 

And lets compare Jackson's goal to go stats to those of the 6 you would take above him.

 

S. Jax- 18 car. 41 yds 7 TD's. 2.28 ypc and a TD for every 2.57 carries.

 

Tiki- 22 for 37 and 1 TD. 1.68 ypc and a TD for every 22 carries.

 

Ronnie B. 12 for 34 and 3 TD's. 2.83 ypc and a TD for every 4 carries.

 

Rudi- 32 for 67 and 10 TD's. 2.09 ypc and a TD for every 3.2 carries.

 

Lamont- 27 for 45 and 8 TD's. 1.67 ypc and a TD for evey 3.38 carries.

 

Edge- 39 for 81 and 12 TD's. 2.07 ypc and a TD for every 3.35 carries.

 

Caddy- 13 for 42 and 4 TD's. 3.23 ypc and a TD for every 3.25 carries.

 

So inside the 10 Jackson averages more ypc than everyone except Caddy and Ronnie. (the 2 guys with the least attempts) and his TD percentage is the best among this group. Yeah but I know, you and Devildog were the only ones that watched him last year and he's the worst RB evah.

 

Like others have said, after the top 3 you can make an argument for or against any number of backs. Your hatred for S-Jax is getting old.

 

If you dont like the guy then fine. But why do you put so mush energy into talking chit about him?

 

Im sitting at the 8 spot and if S-Jax falls to me I will take him gladly.

 

I'm not putting any effort into trashing him, it's actually quite easy I've watched him play a lot and I don't think he's that talented, certainly not enough to warrant that high a pick. His vision is lacking. Give him a big hole or get him into open space and he's good. He's not good at trying to find that space on his own. Everyone has their own opinion though.

[VaTerp 0]

Yeah I know Martz wasnt the coach for 2/3 of the year but they still were playing under his system. Thats why I said the Martz era. The eye roll was real cute though. I can do it too.

 

The defense is a more valid point but I think that S-Jax's ability to cathc the ball out of the backfield offsets that somewhat.

 

Just saying...there seems to be a hell of a lot more going on against SJ than the other RBs I've mentioned. People keep saying that after the "big 3" the rest are interchangable. I call BS.

1. Because I'm bored and it's fun to stir the pot.

 

2. I would to. But what would you do at 6th - that is the question.

 

Scooter, first you say that, after the big 3, there are 6 Rb's you'd take ahead of S-Jax then you agree with me that you'd gladly take him at 8. Doesnt add up.

 

And I think there are just as many questions against all of the other backs.

 

You seen Miami's O-line tonite? And the fact that Saban has repeatedly stated that he believes in RBBC.

 

Arizona's O-line has looked just as bad.

 

The Raiders 1st unit has looked terrible and their D may be worse than the Rams.

 

I really like Rudi but in a ppr his value significantly drops.

 

Cad loses 3rd downs to Pittman and goaline carries to Alstott.

 

And Portis? My poor Skins. His situation has gotten completely focked in the last 2 weeks.

 

IMO after the top 4 its all a matter of personal preference and I think S-Jax will perform as well or better as any of these guys.

[murf74 461]

The real question is, what did Sjax ever do to Scooter? I mean there are haters, and then there are Scooters. I won't even use the word hater anymore, I'm gonna use Scooter.

 

Don't be a Scooter.

 

And Terp, love the stats. Kinda shows he IS an effect runner inside around the goalline.

 

I could write a 6 page paper on each of Tiki, Sjax, Ronnie, Rudi, etc. Actually, I could write a 6 page paper with pros and another 6 page paper with cons. It comes down to personal preference. And nobody is stupid for thinking any one of the guys I listed above is better than the other. Although I would personally rank them just as I have written them. With a big gap between Tiki and the next guy.

[VaTerp 0]

The real question is, what did Sjax ever do to Scooter? I mean there are haters, and then there are Scooters. I won't even use the word hater anymore, I'm gonna use Scooter.

 

Don't be an Scooter.

 

 

Actually, its dont be a scooter not an scooter but nonetheless.

[murf74 461]

 

Actually, its dont be a scooter not an scooter but nonetheless.

 

fixed it, can't have a new catch phrase grammatically incorrect.

 

Don't be a Scooter.

[greggorymac 0]

fixed it, can't have a new catch phrase grammatically incorrect.

 

How long do you gentlemen think it will take before we know the answer to whether Davis comes to STL or not? Is this thing going to linger or should there be a diffinitive yes/no by the end of the weekend. My league chose next Tuesday to conduct our draft (which I'm not happy about).

[football_scooter 0]

Yeah I know Martz wasnt the coach for 2/3 of the year but they still were playing under his system. Thats why I said the Martz era. The eye roll was real cute though. I can do it too.

 

The defense is a more valid point but I think that S-Jax's ability to cathc the ball out of the backfield offsets that somewhat.

 

Scooter, first you say that, after the big 3, there are 6 Rb's you'd take ahead of S-Jax then you agree with me that you'd gladly take him at 8. Doesnt add up.

 

Except Portis got hurt. So no, it does add up.

 

And I think there are just as many questions against all of the other backs.

 

You seen Miami's O-line tonite? And the fact that Saban has repeatedly stated that he believes in RBBC.

Which is exactly why in the RBrown Vs Edge topics, I recommended Edge.

 

Arizona's O-line has looked just as bad.

I disagree - Edge doesn't play preseason. And if you're going to judge all performances on preseason I guess you have Wally Lundy #1 overall, eh?

 

The Raiders 1st unit has looked terrible and their D may be worse than the Rams.

Amd again - the team had arguably a worse o-line and D last year and Jordan got his numbers. Shell is going to run him into the ground, and there's no GL vulture there.

 

I really like Rudi but in a ppr his value significantly drops.

THis I agree with.

 

Cad loses 3rd downs to Pittman and goaline carries to Alstott.

I thought this too - even debated it with MikeFFT and Matt "wildman" and they convinced me otherwise...I guess we'll see.

 

And Portis? My poor Skins. His situation has gotten completely focked in the last 2 weeks.

Tell me about it - I took him 4th in a geek league.

 

IMO after the top 4 its all a matter of personal preference and I think S-Jax will perform as well or better as any of these guys.

I agree - just not about SJax. I think he's the worst of the bunch. Guy's had 2 years to show me something and I'm still waiting. Has he ever had a Sportscenter highlight?

 

The real question is, what did Sjax ever do to Scooter? I mean there are haters, and then there are Scooters. I won't even use the word hater anymore, I'm gonna use Scooter.

 

Don't be a Scooter.

 

lmao - ok, now that was funny.

 

And if you must pry, he played in a FFB league with my brother when I was very young. My brother colluded with another owner, and SJax went over to my house and punched him upside the head. Then he poured acid on the hood of my brother's car made love to my dog and kicked my mother. All right in front of my entire family.

[Charger 0]

ESPN News reported this morning that Davis did have a contract offer from the Rams. Does anyone have confirmed news?

[football_scooter 0]

ESPN News reported this morning that Davis did have a contract offer from the Rams. Does anyone have confirmed news?

 

was on the radio too...he had a contract offered, but has yet to sign it.

[jacklesize 0]

Risky pick for any team.

To mush money and he'll probably get hurt.

I'm sure there are reasons why no one is signing him --

other then big money. But, if a team really need him they'll pay.

[2bmayhem 1]

This link popped up on yahoo alerts saying he was offered a contract as well.

 

http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/s...lleville_sports