TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 4, 2007 Yeah, that's what I'M talking about!!!!!! And.....the cutback for a TD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q.Lazzarus 0 Posted January 4, 2007 A true bludgeoning. I think Russel is better than Quinn. The only question will be his freakin' Wonderlic score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 4, 2007 How many 50+ yard passes can he complete off his back foot...off balance????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q.Lazzarus 0 Posted January 4, 2007 How many 50+ yard passes can he complete off his back foot...off balance????? He is some specimen. Huge 6'5 260, accurate, monster arm. With the first pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 4, 2007 He is some specimen. Huge 6'5 260, accurate, monster arm. With the first pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select... ...a disappointing Troy Davis.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted January 4, 2007 Not that I'm an expert but If I was ranking NFL QB prospects, I'd go... Troy Smith (mobile, beautiful spiral, accurate storm arm, proven winner, performs under pressure, I still can't forget that play where he spent 15 seconds running for his life and hitting the open receiver) Brennan (looked focking awesome the 2 games I've seen him but it is a passing conference) JaMarcus Russell (cannon for an arm, a winner, showed up B Quinn, but massive QBs haven't fared well in the NFL thus far) Brady Quinn (I think he's regressed because he lost his motivation/doesn't feel challenged like he did... but is still a solid pro prospect) All of these guys are 1st round picks in my book. Then again, I thought Ryan Leaf would be better than Peyton Manning. ...a disappointing Troy Davis.... Troy Smith? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 4, 2007 Troy Smith? Yeah, that guy. I'll stick w/ the LSU guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted January 4, 2007 accurate storm arm I don't think I've ever seen that description before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q.Lazzarus 0 Posted January 4, 2007 Brennan plays in the run and shoot. R&S QB's typically haven't fared well in the NFL. Rounds 3-5 likely. Troy Smith is maybe a little undersized. He's listed at 6'1" He's probably closer to 5'11" Could present problems in the pocket. Late 1st round maybe, more than likely 2nd round. I think Brian Brohm is ahead of Smith as a late 1st rounder. Quinn and Russell are the head of the class. If Russell declares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 4, 2007 Mark my Werds. Troy Smith will be a good backup QB in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted January 4, 2007 I don't think I've ever seen that description before. What would you describe him as? His arm strong is more than enough for the NFL. He's pretty damn accurate every time I've seen him. His mechanics look a little off sometimes but the ball gets there. Throws an accurate, tight deep ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted January 4, 2007 What would you describe him as? His arm strong is more than enough for the NFL. He's pretty damn accurate every time I've seen him. His mechanics look a little off sometimes but the ball gets there. Throws an accurate, tight deep ball. Maybe you should just stop now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q.Lazzarus 0 Posted January 4, 2007 What would you describe him as? His arm strong is more than enough for the NFL. He's pretty damn accurate every time I've seen him. His mechanics look a little off sometimes but the ball gets there. Throws an accurate, tight deep ball. I used to have Stretch Armstrong. but not Stretch Stormarm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted January 4, 2007 Brennan plays in the run and shoot. R&S QB's typically haven't fared well in the NFL. Rounds 3-5 likely. Troy Smith is maybe a little undersized. He's listed at 6'1" He's probably closer to 5'11" Could present problems in the pocket. Late 1st round maybe, more than likely 2nd round. I think Brian Brohm is ahead of Smith as a late 1st rounder. Quinn and Russell are the head of the class. If Russell declares. Everyone else will agree with your assessment. If Brennan declares, I think there's zero chance he falls past the early 3rd round. I think once he works out and shows that he's the better passer than all the other prospects, he shoots up the board. It won't happen, but I'd love to see him in Martz's system. His numbers are incredible, but he's got a nice touch, a strong arm, great accuracy, enough mobility and seemed to have really good pocket presence and awareness. People point to Timmy Chang as the argument against Brennan but he didn't have the arm strength and even Chung didn't put these numbers up. 70% completion %; less than 1 INT per game; 50some TDs, 5,000some yards. And June Jones really seems to believe in the kid. He looks like a more polished Jay Cutler at this point. Yeah, Smith is undersized. And people said Vince Young would have problems because of his sidearm delivery. I think Smith is mobile enough that his height won't pose nearly as many problems as your prototypical pocket passer. I just don't think these absolute truths like "Must be 6'3" and "Must have over the top delivery" apply to mobile QBs. I didn't think Brohm was going to declare. How his backup performed makes me nervous about Brohm. Sounds stupid, but I'm taking him down a peg or two. I question whether it's the system or not. Chris Redman looked pretty good at Louisville too. Taken in the 2nd or 3rd round as I recall. As for JaMarcus Russell, he's throwing to 3 of the top 10 Wide Receivers in the nation. I wonder how highly we'd think of him if you gave him an average receiving corps. Maybe you should just stop now. Oh God. I didn't even notice you were pointing out a typo the 1st time. I just got back from the office at 11:30. Obviously time for bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 4, 2007 As for JaMarcus Russell, he's throwing to 3 of the top 10 Wide Receivers in the nation. I wonder how highly we'd think of him if you gave him an average receiving corps. "OH, what a cannon for an am. We need him more than we need those other crapass QB's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted January 5, 2007 How odd not to see any Charlie Weis disciples chiming in! What was all that about Willingham's teams folding like a Chinese bicycle in big games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 10, 2007 Mark my Werds. Troy Smith will be a good backup QB in the NFL. What he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
