Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 16, 2008 Obama will be paying now for Afghanistan and the "goodies" you reference by deficit spending. So you agree Obama lied about paying for his goodies by bringing home the troops from Iraq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted December 16, 2008 No, I don't agree to that, RP. Obama has said for some time that troops would be added in Afghanistan. He is saving $$ by bringing troops out of Iraq. Those savings will be used for "goodies" such as improved health care, energy independence programs, etc. The economy really cratered during the campaign, and there has been a revision downward in the importance of balancing the budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 16, 2008 No, I don't agree to that, RP. Obama has said for some time that troops would be added in Afghanistan. He is saving $$ by bringing troops out of Iraq. Those savings will be used for "goodies" such as improved health care, energy independence programs, etc. The economy really cratered during the campaign, and there has been a revision downward in the importance of balancing the budget. How much of a savings is there when you are sending more and more troops to Afghanistan? I thought we were in a recession well over a year ago. Obama was making promises well past then. Which is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted December 16, 2008 Have you seen numbers on the predicted increase of spending in Afghanistan? And you're the one trying to tie the two together. I can't guess Obama's answer to that - I don't remember it being covered in the campaign in that manner. The recession began in 12/07, but wasn't announced officially until after 11/4/08. You argue like Bush - throw out misinformation, and hope someone buys it. It gets old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted December 16, 2008 How much of a savings is there when you are sending more and more troops to Afghanistan? I thought we were in a recession well over a year ago. Obama was making promises well past then. Which is it? Moron. Why do you hate America? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 16, 2008 Have you seen numbers on the predicted increase of spending in Afghanistan? Have you seen the numbers on the predicted decrease of spending in Iraq? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 17, 2008 Have you seen numbers on the predicted increase of spending in Afghanistan? And you're the one trying to tie the two together. I can't guess Obama's answer to that - I don't remember it being covered in the campaign in that manner. You don't recall Obama saying he was gonna pay for various programs with savings from shutting down the Iraq war????? Wow! And you voted for the guy. That was one of his central lies he peddled at every campaign stop. Man, you just voted for him cuz you heard "HOPE" "CHANGE" didn't ya? Let me refresh your memory a little: Fact: Obama, when referring to savings he can make by leaving Iraq ($90 billion, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates), has spent these savings several times over, across several different promises depending on the crowd he's addressing. Most of the time he spends the Iraq savings in the context of the roads he wants to build; sometimes it's for the teachers he wants to hire. Tonight, he riffed rhetorically on the savings, asking how many scholarships could be funded, or how many schools could be built. In the end though, presuming he really saves $90 billion, he can only spend it once. Remember he also mentioned rebuilding the military ($7 billion/yr); his education initiative ($18 billion/yr); and his energy initiative ($15 billion/yr). He did not mention the $188 billion that he would spend on the brand new stimulus package he has proposed. If he closes every loophole as promised, saves every dime from Iraq, raises taxes on the rich and trims the federal budget as he's promised to do "line by line," he still doesn't pay for his list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted December 17, 2008 You don't recall Obama saying he was gonna pay for various programs with savings from shutting down the Iraq war????? Wow! And you voted for the guy. That was one of his central lies he peddled at every campaign stop. Man, you just voted for him cuz you heard "HOPE" "CHANGE" didn't ya? Let me refresh your memory a little: Link to credible source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 17, 2008 Link to credible source? CBS News isn't left-wing enough for ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted December 17, 2008 CBS News isn't left-wing enough for ya? Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,714 Posted December 17, 2008 Link? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/...Home;topStories Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logan5 0 Posted December 17, 2008 I hope we learned our lesson and don't put another guy like this in power but i doubt it. Some people will just vote in the worst because they are in the same party......lots of dumb people in the USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,714 Posted December 17, 2008 lots of dumb people in the USA. Well Obama did win... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted December 17, 2008 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/...Home;topStories Posty = Recliner Pilot? GUTTERSLUT!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted December 17, 2008 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/...Home;topStories Posty = Recliner Pilot? The Puzzy couldn't post his own link? GUTTERSLUT!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,714 Posted December 17, 2008 Posty = Recliner Pilot? GUTTERSLUT!!!! Ever heard of Google? Pretty decent tool... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 17, 2008 Ever heard of Google? Pretty decent tool... Why waste your time on a complete moron who thinks there are only two sites on the web........this one and gaycumguzzlers.com. I'm sure Tiki will soon be whining about Wiffle not providing links in the following theads: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=336663 http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=336742 http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=336760 Surely just an oversight on the Moron's part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites