So the other day at the casino, I got dealt 7,2 off

[Giants Fan 85]

1/2 NL table I am in the SB

 

Couple limpers and I decide, with like 8-1 pot odds ... it's not worth calling a dollar. I fold 2d 7h.

 

Flop comes 3h4d7d, and I'm thinking that's a pretty good flop, if I had called. Guy makes a big bet, other guy calls. Turn is the 7c and I'm thinking, "Crap. I would have turned trips!" Big bet, other guy calls and I am thinking one of them has the last 7 and a bigger kicker. Still pretty confident about my fold.

 

Until the 7s on the river! I would have rivered quads.

 

One guy bets big, other guy calls ...pocket sixes won the hand. Even if someone had aces .... I woulda had the nuts.

 

[Giants Fan 85]

Now, you can't go, "Meh. This hand sucks but I'll play for a dollar." or the BB might just raise it, but the moral of the story is, in the SB, call the extra dollar, with any 2 cards. You can always fold after the flop or if the BB raises.

[Yer mom 2]

It would be awesome if someone just fockin punched you in the balls so hard

[Giants Fan 85]

It would be awesome if someone just fockin punched you in the balls so hard

 

It would not be very awesome for them, after I ripped their head off and made them lick their own ass.

[IMMensaMind 460]

It would not be very awesome for them, after I ripped their head off and made them lick their own ass.

 

Verdict: (as I've said): you're not a very good poker player.

 

You play like you have no money. It's ironic that people who play like they have no money actually have no money.

[Giants Fan 85]

Verdict: (as I've said): you're not a very good poker player.

 

You play like you have no money. It's ironic that people who play like they have no money actually have no money.

 

Yeah .... there's just one problem.

 

Nobody GIVES A FOCK what you think. Douschebag.

[Giants Fan 85]

I'm sorry, that was a little out of line. I sincerely apologize.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NOT!

 

[Giants Fan 85]

Are you really in Mensa? Lotta broke ass geniuses in Mensa .... isn't there?

 

I am not a member. Could be if I wanted, but I choose not to gloat over my own intelligence. And I can relate to normal people, quite well, actually. Who am I kidding .... I'm a nerd, I've always been a nerd .... I will always be a nerd. And i'm a stickler for rules .... and making sure it's fair ... shiat like that. Nobody likes me ... but I'm right most of the time.

 

http://dictionary.re...om/browse/gloat ... for the rest of you mouthbreathers.

[nikki2200 4]

Yeah .... there's just one problem.

 

Nobody GIVES A FOCK what you think. Douschebag.

 

 

AMEN brutha. He should come out and participate in a Geek Homer game to show his skillz if he wants to insult you. I mean he's ridiculously wealthy like he likes to remind everyone all the time. Surely he can afford to spend $5 and put his money where his mouth is.

 

But I'm sure Mensadoosh wouldn't have the cahones to do something like that. What if he lost? The Horror.

 

Rock on GFIAFP!

 

Honestly at the moment, you are my new favorite poster.

[Giants Fan 85]

In about 1983, when I was 13, I was second in command of the Secret Dwarves Clan, of Tucson Arizona. It was similar to the SCA but not so hardcore, and minors could fight.

 

 

Anyway .... the guy who was leader of our clan fought with a spear. And a large part of his effectiveness was his fearless charge at you. But if you have a sword and shield .... it's real simple. Don't panic. If you can divert his initial spear blow with your shield ... you got a wide open, slicing blow against the abdomen. Maybe not a big deal if you are wearing chain mail, but counted as a kill in our game.

 

He scared everyone else away .... but me. I would fight a technical game against him and often win.

 

Those were the days. I became deadly with a padded broomstick. Partly because I was a better athlete than these nerds, but also, I was smart.

[Giants Fan 85]

Combined with learning about Zen Bhudism ... I got into this briefly.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SHWXQBVL4&feature=fvsr

 

And then I got into boxing. Did real well until they took my headgear away. Glass nose.

 

And that's when I pretty much decided I was a lover ..... and a fighter.

 

I can whip around a pool cue like it's nun chucks ... I am deadly, with a stick in my hands. No joke.

 

But I also .... don't ever want to break my nose again. I bled like a stuck pig for about 20 seconds.

[eaglesinmylifetime 0]

make sure you complete the SB with every hand you could possibly be dealt. it's only $1 and you are getting tremendous odds if there are a bunch of limpers. and you have the added advantage of being out of position for the entire hand. you get to act first. yeah, go ahead and throw in that $1 every chance you get. Better yet, every time you are UTG, just limp and fold when it gets raised. When you move up to $2/$5, toss that $3 in there as well. Might as well go bust quickly.

 

we really need a sarcasm smiley.

[Mango_wiggee 0]

mmm...with a couple limpers, SB should almost always call just for the odds.

 

To bad, would have made lotso money

[heavy-set 39]

Verdict: (as I've said): you're not a very good poker player.

 

You play like you have no money. It's ironic that people who play like they have no money actually have no money.

but which came first, not having money or gambling like you dont have any money

[IMMensaMind 460]

mmm...with a couple limpers, SB should almost always call just for the odds.

 

To bad, would have made lotso money

 

And this is why my assessment is correct. The fact is that you stay in with limpers, because you do not focking know what will happen, and you also can rake a huge pot if the cards fall the right way - and you've already paid half of the entry fee to see the flop, for crissakes! IMO, the only time you fold SB is if you're raised into enough to justify doing so, and or the blinds are such a huge percentage of your bank that you have no choice but to wait for an all-in moment.

 

GFIAFP's new codpiece Nikki not withstanding: you do not know WTF you're talking about.

 

And GFIAFP: you do give a sh!t what people think, or you wouldn't have posted this story here.

[Cruzer 1,993]

mmm...with a couple limpers, SB should almost always call just for the odds.

From the SB position and dog shiat in hand - limp in action is a gift..... You didn't deserve to win that pot.

[nikki2200 4]

And this is why my assessment is correct. The fact is that you stay in with limpers, because you do not focking know what will happen, and you also can rake a huge pot if the cards fall the right way - and you've already paid half of the entry fee to see the flop, for crissakes! IMO, the only time you fold SB is if you're raised into enough to justify doing so, and or the blinds are such a huge percentage of your bank that you have no choice but to wait for an all-in moment.

 

GFIAFP's new codpiece Nikki not withstanding: you do not know WTF you're talking about.

 

And GFIAFP: you do give a sh!t what people think, or you wouldn't have posted this story here.

 

 

MensaMind

 

SHUT

 

 

 

 

 

THE

 

 

 

 

FOCK

 

 

 

 

UP

 

 

That felt good.

[DankNuggs 305]

Verdict: (as I've said): you're not a very good poker player.

 

You play like you have no money. It's ironic that people who play like they have no money actually have no money.

While GF has made a poker mistake or two in his day, folding 72os preflop was the correct move...

 

Although taking down a pot that goes to showdown w/72 is called 'dropping the hammer'

[DankNuggs 305]

And this is why my assessment is correct. The fact is that you stay in with limpers, because you do not focking know what will happen, and you also can rake a huge pot if the cards fall the right way - and you've already paid half of the entry fee to see the flop, for crissakes! IMO, the only time you fold SB is if you're raised into enough to justify doing so, and or the blinds are such a huge percentage of your bank that you have no choice but to wait for an all-in moment.

 

GFIAFP's new codpiece Nikki not withstanding: you do not know WTF you're talking about.

 

And GFIAFP: you do give a sh!t what people think, or you wouldn't have posted this story here.

Sorry, but this is incorrect... By your theory, SB should complete 100% of unraised pots... Given first to act is a poor position to be in, and getting drawn into a pot w/ top pair/weak kicker is a great way to spew chips...

[nikki2200 4]

While GF has made a poker mistake or two in his day, folding 72os preflop was the correct move...

 

Although taking down a pot that goes to showdown w/72 is called 'dropping the hammer'

 

 

Wait. Did MensaMind say GF shouldn't have folded 72os? I didn't get past "And this is why my assessment is correct" before I had an outburst.

 

So Mensa is one of those guys that plays like he has money to burn, and therefore bad poker. Got it.

 

[DankNuggs 305]

Wait. Did MensaMind say GF shouldn't have folded 72os? I didn't get past "And this is why my assessment is correct" before I had an outburst.

 

So Mensa is one of those guys that plays like he has money to burn, and therefore bad poker. Got it.

 

Alot of poker has to do with ego...

[nikki2200 4]

Alot of poker has to do with ego...

 

 

I love taking money off of people like that. They're so easy to figure out. You know within a few minutes at a table with them they are going to play every hand because they have money to burn, so to speak, or are ridiculously wealthy and goodlooking like MensaMind. So when you know you have a hand won on the flop, you can just do these little dinky raises that you know they are going to call because it's only a couple of dollars. Makes for some pretty decent sized pots.

[Gandalfs Fireworks 2]

Are you really in Mensa? Lotta broke ass geniuses in Mensa .... isn't there?

 

I am not a member. Could be if I wanted, but I choose not to gloat over my own intelligence. And I can relate to normal people, quite well, actually. Who am I kidding .... I'm a nerd, I've always been a nerd .... I will always be a nerd. And i'm a stickler for rules .... and making sure it's fair ... shiat like that. Nobody likes me ... but I'm right most of the time.

 

http://dictionary.re...om/browse/gloat ... for the rest of you mouthbreathers.

 

 

First of all, are you seriously patting yourself on the back for knowing the word "gloat"?? WTF, that is not even a 10 cent word, brother.

 

Secondly, a basic rule to follow in NLHE is to play big cards big and early, play bad cards if its cheap and you're in late position. Folding there was not only a bad play, but raising there likely would have taken down the pot or brought it down to you and the Big. If you win, then you show your hole cards and for the rest of the night its easier for you to slow play big hands.

 

You have no business even considering playing professionally.

 

You are terrible.

[IMMensaMind 460]

Sorry, but this is incorrect... By your theory, SB should complete 100% of unraised pots... Given first to act is a poor position to be in, and getting drawn into a pot w/ top pair/weak kicker is a great way to spew chips...

 

I disagree. SB is already 50% in. We're talking about 1/2 blinds here, for crissakes, so what I'm saying here doesn't apply for high blinds. It doesn't matter if he's first to act; the fact is that if the flop falls 272, being first to act is delicious; if the flop falls 347 it's also good. You can control hands being the first to act; it's about playing style. I've done it plenty of times. Your concern about spewing chips can happen in any hand you do not hold the nuts in regardless.

 

Oh, and Nikki: I don't play poker because I have money to burn. I play poker because I'm good at it.

[IMMensaMind 460]

I love taking money off of people like that. They're so easy to figure out. You know within a few minutes at a table with them they are going to play every hand because they have money to burn, so to speak, or are ridiculously wealthy and goodlooking like MensaMind. So when you know you have a hand won on the flop, you can just do these little dinky raises that you know they are going to call because it's only a couple of dollars. Makes for some pretty decent sized pots.

 

You are so hilariously emotional. I piss you off in a thread about ID, and you cannot focking let it go. Let me tell you something, little girl: you do not have the first focking clue about poker if you think you "knew you had the hand won" with GFIAFP's explanation; GFIAFP wins that hand, as it was quads that he missed out on.

 

Giggling because you flop the nuts and can bleed out the rest of the players isn't rocket science. A focking trained monkey can play those cards. It is readily apparent to me that you'll be busily small raising, and get smacked in the twat by someone like a GFIAFP who can afford to stay in a hand because you're betting so little, only to pull quads at the end and shove it up your ass.

[IMMensaMind 460]

Sorry, but this is incorrect... By your theory, SB should complete 100% of unraised pots... Given first to act is a poor position to be in, and getting drawn into a pot w/ top pair/weak kicker is a great way to spew chips...

 

Just to add a bit here: there is nothing about "getting drawn in" that you cannot control yourself after the flop. Landing trips with 2/7 off is something that is hard for other players to defense; the amount of chips you win in the fraction of pots in which 2/7 plays can and will make up for the extra buck you had to throw in to see the flop.

[Johnny Ringo 0]

Just to add a bit here: there is nothing about "getting drawn in" that you cannot control yourself after the flop. Landing trips with 2/7 off is something that is hard for other players to defense; the amount of chips you win in the fraction of pots in which 2/7 plays can and will make up for the extra buck you had to throw in to see the flop.

 

I'm siding with Dank here. Over time, tossing in the extra dollar on a garbage SB hand is NOT going to be a money making move. When the flop came out, it was 3,4,7...so now you have top pair with a non-existent kicker. Now what?? You have flush draws out there, straight draws out there, and you are behind to any overpair, any 7 with a better kicker, and a HUGE dog to anyone who limped in with pocket 3s or 4s and just hit their set or someone laying in the weeds with 5-6 who flopped the nuts. Most beginning players tend to overbet this kind of flop and end up spewing off a ton of chips. Yes, in THIS case, the turn would have given him trips and the river would have given him quads, but for every ONE of these dream boards, you will lose a ton of money the other 95% of the time. You say that the fraction of pots you win will make up for all those extra bucks you throw in pre-flop, but you are ignoring the tough bets you will have to make or call post-flop in order to get there. Even after that flop, a TON of hands have you dominated and tons of draws will stick around and call you down. Even 2 overcards will call a reasonable bet. When the Turn comes King or Ace, and then the river comes with the 3rd diamond, how far are you willing to go to showdown your pair of 7s?? You can argue all you want, but the fact is, you're wrong in this case.

[eaglesinmylifetime 0]

That is the other thing to consider here: Are you really comfortable calling on the flop when you just flop 1 pair? Yeah, you made quads. But you had to stick around to the river to hit quads. I doubt I even call $5 on that flop with TPNK. I probably get sucked in on the turn if it gets checked through on the flop.

 

The key to poker is don't be results-oriented. Make the right play, the right decision, on every street. And that means folding 72 for $1 from the SB.

[IMMensaMind 460]

I'm siding with Dank here. Over time, tossing in the extra dollar on a garbage SB hand is NOT going to be a money making move. When the flop came out, it was 3,4,7...so now you have top pair with a non-existent kicker. Now what?? You have flush draws out there, straight draws out there, and you are behind to any overpair, any 7 with a better kicker, and a HUGE dog to anyone who limped in with pocket 3s or 4s and just hit their set or someone laying in the weeds with 5-6 who flopped the nuts.

 

I stopped here because I'm not saying that there isn't a sh!tload of danger; I'm saying that playing the extra buck on a 1/2blind table with 2/7 off can reap dividends. You merely have to avoid the above. I would not have criticized GFIAFP if he had folded after seeing the flop, and got out after a "large raise" by someone. This is about losing the opportunity to create a helluva trap at all because you declined playing even though you had odds already.

 

If I'm wrong in this case, btw, you would never see professional players playing with 2/7 off - and you do.

Most beginning players tend to overbet this kind of flop and end up spewing off a ton of chips.

 

...and that's not the type of player I'm talking about. I'm not giving advice to beginners, here. Seeing the flop when in the SB - for only a buck - doesn't mean you have to be the type of player you mention here. Advanced players don't overbet in this scenario.

 

Yes, in THIS case, the turn would have given him trips and the river would have given him quads, but for every ONE of these dream boards, you will lose a ton of money the other 95% of the time.

 

Only if you're a beginning player.

 

You say that the fraction of pots you win will make up for all those extra bucks you throw in pre-flop, but you are ignoring the tough bets you will have to make or call post-flop in order to get there. Even after that flop, a TON of hands have you dominated and tons of draws will stick around and call you down. Even 2 overcards will call a reasonable bet. When the Turn comes King or Ace, and then the river comes with the 3rd diamond, how far are you willing to go to showdown your pair of 7s?? You can argue all you want, but the fact is, you're wrong in this case.

 

We all can post scenarios where you get a bad beat. I can argue - and be correct - because your case is based upon the proclivities of a beginning player. I stay in that hand for the flop for something like trips, or - as in the case GFIAFP posted - high card with small bettors at the table that you can then judge individually, and decide whether staying in for the turn is justified.

 

The fact is that it would have been, and the wisdom of staying in through a bet is strictly determined by the pot; the players and the situation.

 

If your position that you do not play 2/7 from SB was legitimate, you would never see pros play it from there, and you do. This is a 1/2 NL table. You play every SB with no raises into the BB. If there was a limit, I may agree with you on 2/7 @ SB, based upon what the limits were: but the fact is that even trip 7's will win about 90% of the hands in which it participates.

 

If you do not agree, we need to play.

[Johnny Ringo 0]

I stopped here because I'm not saying that there isn't a sh!tload of danger; I'm saying that playing the extra buck on a 1/2blind table with 2/7 off can reap dividends. You merely have to avoid the above. I would not have criticized GFIAFP if he had folded after seeing the flop, and got out after a "large raise" by someone. This is about losing the opportunity to create a helluva trap at all because you declined playing even though you had odds already.

 

If I'm wrong in this case, btw, you would never see professional players playing with 2/7 off - and you do.

 

 

...and that's not the type of player I'm talking about. I'm not giving advice to beginners, here. Seeing the flop when in the SB - for only a buck - doesn't mean you have to be the type of player you mention here. Advanced players don't overbet in this scenario.

 

 

 

Only if you're a beginning player.

 

 

 

We all can post scenarios where you get a bad beat. I can argue - and be correct - because your case is based upon the proclivities of a beginning player. I stay in that hand for the flop for something like trips, or - as in the case GFIAFP posted - high card with small bettors at the table that you can then judge individually, and decide whether staying in for the turn is justified.

 

The fact is that it would have been, and the wisdom of staying in through a bet is strictly determined by the pot; the players and the situation.

 

If your position that you do not play 2/7 from SB was legitimate, you would never see pros play it from there, and you do. This is a 1/2 NL table. You play every SB with no raises into the BB. If there was a limit, I may agree with you on 2/7 @ SB, based upon what the limits were: but the fact is that even trip 7's will win about 90% of the hands in which it participates.

 

If you do not agree, we need to play.

 

 

I understand your argument....I still don't agree with it. Your argument is based on being a savvy enough player to control the action and use this "favorable" flop to set a potential trap for opponents who check or bet out weakly. However, if you re-read GFIAFP's post, he states the following: Flop comes 3h4d7d, and I'm thinking that's a pretty good flop, if I had called. Guy makes a big bet, other guy calls. Turn is the 7c

 

So when the other guy throws out that "BIG BET" and that big bet is called by another player, you believe that you are trapping both of them by calling that bet with a pair of 7s and no kicker. I disagree. You admit in your post that there is a sh!tload of danger that you have to avoid. Here you don't get your ideal flop of trips, and you aren't dealing with "small bettors". A big bet and a call tell you that more than likely at least ONE of them, and maybe BOTH of them, are ahead of you. I argue that if you call that bet, you are probably making a mistake looking for your miracle 2-outer to set your trap.

 

Perhaps you're right...maybe we do need to play. ; )

[eaglesinmylifetime 0]

I understand your argument....I still don't agree with it. Your argument is based on being a savvy enough player to control the action and use this "favorable" flop to set a potential trap for opponents who check or bet out weakly. However, if you re-read GFIAFP's post, he states the following: Flop comes 3h4d7d, and I'm thinking that's a pretty good flop, if I had called. Guy makes a big bet, other guy calls. Turn is the 7c

 

So when the other guy throws out that "BIG BET" and that big bet is called by another player, you believe that you are trapping both of them by calling that bet with a pair of 7s and no kicker. I disagree. You admit in your post that there is a sh!tload of danger that you have to avoid. Here you don't get your ideal flop of trips, and you aren't dealing with "small bettors". A big bet and a call tell you that more than likely at least ONE of them, and maybe BOTH of them, are ahead of you. I argue that if you call that bet, you are probably making a mistake looking for your miracle 2-outer to set your trap.

 

Perhaps you're right...maybe we do need to play. ; )

 

yeah, i think we should set up a game somewhere and we can show people how to fold the SB with crappy hands.

 

just because i straddled tonight with 94o, and hit runner/runner 9s to make a boat - and I didn't get paid - doesn't mean i should start playing 94o. even the dealer laughed after i turned up the hand. she said, 'you don't play that stuff.' and she's right. i'd never put a dime into a pot with 94o, so why would i waste another $1 from the SB with ATC? if you're going to play ATC from the SB for $1, you should be playing ATC from the button for $2, right? after all, you have optimal position for the rest of the hand.

[IMMensaMind 460]

I understand your argument....I still don't agree with it. Your argument is based on being a savvy enough player to control the action and use this "favorable" flop to set a potential trap for opponents who check or bet out weakly. However, if you re-read GFIAFP's post, he states the following: Flop comes 3h4d7d, and I'm thinking that's a pretty good flop, if I had called. Guy makes a big bet, other guy calls. Turn is the 7c

 

So when the other guy throws out that "BIG BET" and that big bet is called by another player, you believe that you are trapping both of them by calling that bet with a pair of 7s and no kicker. I disagree. You admit in your post that there is a sh!tload of danger that you have to avoid. Here you don't get your ideal flop of trips, and you aren't dealing with "small bettors". A big bet and a call tell you that more than likely at least ONE of them, and maybe BOTH of them, are ahead of you. I argue that if you call that bet, you are probably making a mistake looking for your miracle 2-outer to set your trap.

 

Perhaps you're right...maybe we do need to play. ; )

 

It's not like I'm not sympathetic to yours and others arguments; I am. I'm not trying to defend staying in after such a flop; I'm defending seeing the flop for $1. Hitting 2 pair; hitting trips or hitting one pair with checks around the board are all reasons to stay in that hand - and all such scenarios would have rewarded the player for paying the $1.

 

Will most flops net a bagel? Sure. The question is how good a player are you with the opportunity to score, and can you make up the 92% of the time that you hit bupkis on the flop? Obviously there has to be someone at the table who sees their own hand, but that person is going to tend to play a bit more aggressively against draws that would favor 2/7o hole cards, so the opportunity to draw out more chips exists (on both sides, of course). It depends upon how such a person plays.

 

I think this comes down to your own playing style as much as anything else. We don't know the size of GFIAFP's explained "big bet" (it could be $2 for that broke ass, for all we know ). You'd have to be at the table to judge both the player that made the "big bet", and the follow up call. I doubt seriously I would have stayed in after a bet larger than $3 with those cards on the flop (unless I'm really on with reading the callers), but that really isn't my point: my point is that it is completely legit to see the flop for $1, and I would also say that I don't hold much stock in what a dealer says, as if they were truly any good, they wouldn't be dealing.

[IMMensaMind 460]

yeah, i think we should set up a game somewhere and we can show people how to fold the SB with crappy hands.

 

just because i straddled tonight with 94o, and hit runner/runner 9s to make a boat - and I didn't get paid - doesn't mean i should start playing 94o. even the dealer laughed after i turned up the hand. she said, 'you don't play that stuff.' and she's right. i'd never put a dime into a pot with 94o, so why would i waste another $1 from the SB with ATC? if you're going to play ATC from the SB for $1, you should be playing ATC from the button for $2, right? after all, you have optimal position for the rest of the hand.

 

The difference is the number of people you have to get through in order to avoid a raise and throw away your hole cards - and that's a big difference. Another factor that enters this decision to play for $1 from SB is the nature of the BB: is it an aggressive player? Do they slow play? Would they tend to raise and win a hand pre-flop? There are lots of reasons one could also defend folding 2/7os @ the SB - which is why I'm sympathetic to the argument.

[Giants Fan 85]

You guys are over complicating it.

 

If I had seen the flop, it would have been worth the bet for me to see the turn ... but that's not the point.

 

It's 8-1 pot odds, you have 7-2 off. Should you see the flop?

 

I think the answer is yes. That one hand would have paid for 100 limps. At least.

[IGotWorms 3,445]

I came into this thread expecting to see GFIAFP getting his ass handed to him (again).

 

Instead Mensadoosh somehow managed to lose a GFIAFP thread.

 

Incredible!

[Know Doubt 0]

yeah, i think we should set up a game somewhere and we can show people how to fold the SB with crappy hands.

 

just because i straddled tonight with 94o, and hit runner/runner 9s to make a boat - and I didn't get paid - doesn't mean i should start playing 94o. even the dealer laughed after i turned up the hand. she said, 'you don't play that stuff.' and she's right. i'd never put a dime into a pot with 94o, so why would i waste another $1 from the SB with ATC? if you're going to play ATC from the SB for $1, you should be playing ATC from the button for $2, right? after all, you have optimal position for the rest of the hand.

 

 

Pretty good discussion here but you forgot the most important thing!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can size of the Dealer dambit!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[IMMensaMind 460]

I came into this thread expecting to see GFIAFP getting his ass handed to him (again).

 

Instead Mensadoosh somehow managed to lose a GFIAFP thread.

 

Incredible!

 

I suck at poker. Sometimes I get lucky and win a couple big hands, which pisses all the "real" poker players off since I am somehow ruining the game. Then I usually get angry at them (since I'm often drunk when playing poker) and the whole thing just goes downhill from there. Yeah, I don't play much.

 

 

Hey infection: you don't know how to play poker. STFU.

[DankNuggs 305]

I disagree. SB is already 50% in. We're talking about 1/2 blinds here, for crissakes, so what I'm saying here doesn't apply for high blinds. It doesn't matter if he's first to act; the fact is that if the flop falls 272, being first to act is delicious; if the flop falls 347 it's also good. You can control hands being the first to act; it's about playing style. I've done it plenty of times. Your concern about spewing chips can happen in any hand you do not hold the nuts in regardless.

 

Oh, and Nikki: I don't play poker because I have money to burn. I play poker because I'm good at it.

Until he ships his stack to middle position A7suited who limps... I'm not arguing here, you are convinced that putting yourself in a very mediocre, marginal, out-of-position spot is 100% correct... You are wrong.

 

Your retort is that stellar post flop play will get you out of trouble... Spewing chips is a product the majority of the time of overplaying hands you should never have been in...

 

 

"Restraint is the better part of valor"

 

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[eaglesinmylifetime 0]

Pretty good discussion here but you forgot the most important thing!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can size of the Dealer dambit!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bigger than i originally thought they were. pretty average, probably a 34Bish.

[Know Doubt 0]

bigger than i originally thought they were. pretty average, probably a 34Bish.

 

 

Mmm... yeah. Good... good.

 

 

Carry on.