FAB start date poll...

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

It seems like there is a few ideas being thrown around informally in a few different threads, so I figure it would be a good idea to start a poll.

 

Feel free to write in. I think I pretty much included every possible option.

[Tankslap 0]

I voted for the 11-day FAB starting this Wed, but forgot that some guys are totally unavailable for the start of that (rotochamp1 is out Wed-Sat). Maybe the 11-day FAB starting on Friday or Saturday would be better.

 

For the record, any of the combinations works for me. I just want get the party started STAT!!!

 

What we really need is something like an x-y matrix of owners and optional FABs so we can see what is at least a possibility for everyone. We would choose the option with the least casualties, and the victims just have to load up on their FOQ and hope to compete well with their first bid during the time they are out.

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

I voted for the 11-day FAB starting this Wed, but forgot that some guys are totally unavailable for the start of that (rotochamp1 is out Wed-Sat). Maybe the 11-day FAB starting on Friday or Saturday would be better.

 

For the record, any of the combinations works for me. I just want get the party started STAT!!!

 

What we really need is something like an x-y matrix of owners and optional FABs so we can see what is at least a possibility for everyone. We would choose the option with the least casualties, and the victims just have to load up on their FOQ and hope to compete well with their first bid during the time they are out.

True, but another thing to consider is with a 11 day FAB missed time is less problematic. Missing a day or two in an 11-day FAB is much less significant that missing a day or two in a 6 day FAB. At least in the 11-day you would not miss any players completely, unless you are unavailable for more than 48 hours straight.

 

Anyway, lets keep discussing this, and get it settled, ASAP.

[Tankslap 0]

I voted for the 11-day FAB starting this Wed, but forgot that some guys are totally unavailable for the start of that (rotochamp1 is out Wed-Sat).  Maybe the 11-day FAB starting on Friday or Saturday would be better.

 

For the record, any of the combinations works for me.  I just want get the party started STAT!!! 

 

What we really need is something like an x-y matrix of owners and optional FABs so we can see what is at least a possibility for everyone.  We would choose the option with the least casualties, and the victims just have to load up on their FOQ and hope to compete well with their first bid during the time they are out.

True, but another thing to consider is with a 11 day FAB missed time is less problematic. Missing a day or two in an 11-day FAB is much less significant that missing a day or two in a 6 day FAB. At least in the 11-day you would not miss any players completely, unless you are unavailable for more than 48 hours straight.

 

Anyway, lets keep discussing this, and get it settled, ASAP.

That's why I'm in favor of the 11-day FAB. I'd rather get it over with quickly, but I realize that there are a lot of schedule conflicts that the rest of us need to work around. And with consideration of all future Denver Destroyer trades I am here to support each and every team's scheduling concerns!

[Guest TheCheat]

I like the idea of the poll, Grigs, but I don't like the odds of the current leader (11-day starting this Weds.) winning, given that the commish, roto (who'll be turning the FAB on), said he's going to be unavailable from that Weds. night thru Sat. night. That *would* be a pretty big chunk of time away, esp. right at the start. Whatever works for most people works for me tho.

[Tankslap 0]

I like the idea of the poll, Grigs, but I don't like the odds of the current leader (11-day starting this Weds.) winning, given that the commish, roto (who'll be turning the FAB on), said he's going to be unavailable from that Weds. night thru Sat. night. That *would* be a pretty big chunk of time away, esp. right at the start. Whatever works for most people works for me tho.

Agreed Cheat, I think the first option is out.

[Antonio Gates' Gate 0]

I voted for the sixth day FAB starting Friday. It seems like the best all around compromise. Don't we have to get the FAB completed prior to the 3rd or we wouldn't start until Week 2 of the NFL season? I am not sure if that is the way it would play out or not, but if that is the case, I think we should avoid that if possible.

[Guest TheCheat]

I voted for the sixth day FAB starting Friday.  It seems like the best all around compromise.  Don't we have to get the FAB completed prior to the 3rd or we wouldn't start until Week 2 of the NFL season?  I am not sure if that is the way it would play out or not, but if that is the case, I think we should avoid that if possible.

Good question about the 3rd, Gate. (Not *everybody* gets to take week 1 off. )

 

I checked the user's guide tho, and it sounds like we have a bit more time than that:

 

The 2005 season begins with a game on Thursday September 8th.

 

If your league’s FAB does not complete by Wednesday September 7th at 11:59PM PT then the first week of your schedule will start in Week 2 (i.e. no match-ups will be played in Week 1).

[Blitzen 0]

My first choice is 6-day FAB starting on Monday the 29th

Followed by 6-day FAB starting on the 31st

[SmoovJello 0]

My first choice is 6-day FAB starting on Monday the 29th

Followed by 6-day FAB starting on the 31st

I had voted for the FAB to start on Wed, Aug 31st but Mon, Aug 29th works fine for me also. After reading the other thread, I'll add in the fact that I'm not adverse to the 11-day FAB starting on Wednesday, August 24th

 

Ultimately I will go along with whatever happens but the fact that I will be out of town starting at about noon EST on Friday (26th) and unable to even log on to a computer until sometime Sun night (28th) pushes me towards a later start.

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

I like the idea of the poll, Grigs, but I don't like the odds of the current leader (11-day starting this Weds.) winning, given that the commish, roto (who'll be turning the FAB on), said he's going to be unavailable from that Weds. night thru Sat. night. That *would* be a pretty big chunk of time away, esp. right at the start. Whatever works for most people works for me tho.

Fair enough, but I'll be away the 2nd through the 5th, and in a 6 day FAB, that is twice as many players missed as missing 2-3 days in an 11 day FAB. If we were to do a 6-day, what about starting it mid Sunday the 28th? I'm sure most people will be returning Sunday night, so they won't miss anything, and the first round can easily be done with the FOQ.

 

Also, who will be out of town that weekend and when are you going to be back. Lets get that info out in the open. I keep hearing 3 people will be out of town, but I can only think of one that I've actually seen post about it.

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

I like the idea of the poll, Grigs, but I don't like the odds of the current leader (11-day starting this Weds.) winning, given that the commish, roto (who'll be turning the FAB on), said he's going to be unavailable from that Weds. night thru Sat. night.    That *would* be a pretty big chunk of time away, esp. right at the start.  Whatever works for most people works for me tho.

Fair enough, but I'll be away the 2nd through the 5th, and in a 6 day FAB, that is twice as many players missed as missing 2-3 days in an 11 day FAB. If we were to do a 6-day, what about starting it mid Sunday the 28th? I'm sure most people will be returning Sunday night, so they won't miss anything, and the first round can easily be done with the FOQ.

 

Also, who will be out of town that weekend and when are you going to be back. Lets get that info out in the open. I keep hearing 3 people will be out of town, but I can only think of one that I've actually seen post about it.

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

[Antonio Gates' Gate 0]

I voted for the sixth day FAB starting Friday.  It seems like the best all around compromise.  Don't we have to get the FAB completed prior to the 3rd or we wouldn't start until Week 2 of the NFL season?  I am not sure if that is the way it would play out or not, but if that is the case, I think we should avoid that if possible.

Good question about the 3rd, Gate. (Not *everybody* gets to take week 1 off. )

 

I checked the user's guide tho, and it sounds like we have a bit more time than that:

 

The 2005 season begins with a game on Thursday September 8th.

 

If your league’s FAB does not complete by Wednesday September 7th at 11:59PM PT then the first week of your schedule will start in Week 2 (i.e. no match-ups will be played in Week 1).

 

Here's to another week's vacation.

 

I knew at some point there was a deadline, Cheat. Good job on getting the facts straight.

[rexnervous 0]

Well I think that we need everyone to post in this thread what days they'll be totally unavailable (and unless you're camping, can't some of you get to an Internet cafe once per day - I mean, this is FF, what could be more important )

 

My one concern on the 11-day FAB is a quote from the Gameday boards by Cam:

 

The 48-hour version has been described as being a little "slow" by some of our hardcore users (they like to see the pace of development having developments every day). As such we suggest the 24-hour/6-day version.

 

But whatever makes the most sense I'll go with (though I did vote 6 Day starting the 29th).

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

[SmoovJello 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

I was actually talking about starting a 6-day on the 28th, but an 11 day on the 27th sounds even better to me.

 

Those who will be gone that weekend can use the FOQ to cover their initial injection, and will have plenty of time Sunday night and/or Monday morning to review the first wave. Those of us who have plans the following weekend won't get screwed over either with the 48 hour window. Plus we'd have the better part of Wednesday, and Thursday to get our teams straight, although I suspect most will have everything 95% set up before the FAB ends.

 

What does everyone think of that? Any major problems?

[Theyhateme459 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

After doing all the reading I believe the 11 day period starting the 27th is the way to go. It's a little slow, but that means everyone will have a fair shot. Anything 6 day will mess alot of people up. If we start noon on Saturday, that means The first signings won't take place until noon on monday. That means the people who are out will have all night sunday, and monday morning to make their 2nd or 3rd offers or whatever. I think this time will be best for the league.

[SmoovJello 0]

 

Did I actually make a good suggestion?!?!?

 

[rexnervous 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

After doing all the reading I believe the 11 day period starting the 27th is the way to go. It's a little slow, but that means everyone will have a fair shot. Anything 6 day will mess alot of people up. If we start noon on Saturday, that means The first signings won't take place until noon on monday. That means the people who are out will have all night sunday, and monday morning to make their 2nd or 3rd offers or whatever. I think this time will be best for the league.

I agree with this and hereby rescind my poll vote, please disregard the actual poll results as they're pretty meaningless now.

 

One more vote for Sat noon-ish the 27th.

 

(According to my rough calculations, that's the very last day we can start an 11-day FAB.)

[Tankslap 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

After doing all the reading I believe the 11 day period starting the 27th is the way to go. It's a little slow, but that means everyone will have a fair shot. Anything 6 day will mess alot of people up. If we start noon on Saturday, that means The first signings won't take place until noon on monday. That means the people who are out will have all night sunday, and monday morning to make their 2nd or 3rd offers or whatever. I think this time will be best for the league.

I agree with this and hereby rescind my poll vote, please disregard the actual poll results as they're pretty meaningless now.

 

One more vote for Sat noon-ish the 27th.

 

(According to my rough calculations, that's the very last day we can start an 11-day FAB.)

I'm good with this as well as long as we're *certain* it will end before the week 1 deadline (midnight of the 7th).

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

After doing all the reading I believe the 11 day period starting the 27th is the way to go. It's a little slow, but that means everyone will have a fair shot. Anything 6 day will mess alot of people up. If we start noon on Saturday, that means The first signings won't take place until noon on monday. That means the people who are out will have all night sunday, and monday morning to make their 2nd or 3rd offers or whatever. I think this time will be best for the league.

I agree with this and hereby rescind my poll vote, please disregard the actual poll results as they're pretty meaningless now.

 

One more vote for Sat noon-ish the 27th.

 

(According to my rough calculations, that's the very last day we can start an 11-day FAB.)

I'm good with this as well as long as we're *certain* it will end before the week 1 deadline (midnight of the 7th).

Where is Cam? Can someone track him down to confirm this?

 

The other person we need to ok it with is Blitz. He's the only other one I can think of that would have a problem with this, but I think its a good compromize among those of us with conflicts. (Although, Roto gets off clean )

[Tankslap 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

After doing all the reading I believe the 11 day period starting the 27th is the way to go. It's a little slow, but that means everyone will have a fair shot. Anything 6 day will mess alot of people up. If we start noon on Saturday, that means The first signings won't take place until noon on monday. That means the people who are out will have all night sunday, and monday morning to make their 2nd or 3rd offers or whatever. I think this time will be best for the league.

I agree with this and hereby rescind my poll vote, please disregard the actual poll results as they're pretty meaningless now.

 

One more vote for Sat noon-ish the 27th.

 

(According to my rough calculations, that's the very last day we can start an 11-day FAB.)

I'm good with this as well as long as we're *certain* it will end before the week 1 deadline (midnight of the 7th).

Where is Cam? Can someone track him down to confirm this?

 

The other person we need to ok it with is Blitz. He's the only other one I can think of that would have a problem with this, but I think its a good compromize among those of us with conflicts. (Although, Roto gets off clean )

I just posted the question over at the GDR forums. Hopefully we'll get a quicker response there.

[Guest rotochamp1]

I cannot start a FAB on the 27th. I will be at a wedding all day. I am in the wedding party so it will consume my entire day. I can start either the 28th or 29th.

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

I cannot start a FAB on the 27th. I will be at a wedding all day. I am in the wedding party so it will consume my entire day. I can start either the 28th or 29th.

Who the fock cares... I'll be the best man in a wedding the next weekend.

 

There's about 4 or 5 of us that have had to make a compromise to make this work and you come in with an iron fist. Unless there's more than 1 or 2 people against starting on the 27th we must do it, because there have been many who have expressed interest in this format. Don't be so selfish...

[Guest TheCheat]

I like the idea of the poll, Grigs, but I don't like the odds of the current leader (11-day starting this Weds.) winning, given that the commish, roto (who'll be turning the FAB on), said he's going to be unavailable from that Weds. night thru Sat. night.    That *would* be a pretty big chunk of time away, esp. right at the start.  Whatever works for most people works for me tho.

If only I picked games against the spread this well...

[Tankslap 0]

I cannot start a FAB on the 27th.  I will be at a wedding all day.  I am in the wedding party so it will consume my entire day.  I can start either the 28th or 29th.

If you can start on the 28th then what is wrong with the 11-day FAB starting the 27th? The first wave wouldn't end until noon *MONDAY*. You can queue your initial offers and be back online the very next day before any late offer penalties occur. There's literally no downside.

[Blitzen 0]

So far I have Blitzen, and SmoovJello out the 27th/28th.

 

What time will you guys be getting back Sunday?

 

I'm starting to think a start on the 28th might be a good option. I still prefer the 11 day FAB, and so far so do most, but if we start on the 28th then 2 people would be missing a half day or so at the beginning, and I'd miss a day or two at the end.

I'll be leaving about noon on Friday and probably returning between 6 & 8pm on Sunday.

 

We would need to start sometime on the 27th to have the 11-day FAB complete before the midnight Sept 7 deadline. That would have the first signing taking place sometime on Monday, Aug 29th which at worst could have an early effect on GM Rating for late offer submittal by those of us that are gone over the weekend.

 

I have no issues going straight from the FOQ for the first period of the FAB., so I say go ahead with an 11-Day FAB starting on the 27th then. What can I say...I'm accomodating

 

ALSO - we can't even set the date until we get our 16th member, we're still one short.

 

If I remember correctly, if our original last member doesn't join before today is over then someone from the second league would move into that position

After doing all the reading I believe the 11 day period starting the 27th is the way to go. It's a little slow, but that means everyone will have a fair shot. Anything 6 day will mess alot of people up. If we start noon on Saturday, that means The first signings won't take place until noon on monday. That means the people who are out will have all night sunday, and monday morning to make their 2nd or 3rd offers or whatever. I think this time will be best for the league.

I could go with this if it helps. I've already lined up a few guys on my FOQ.