Packers O line

[b.j. booker 0]

What are the projected starters? The line seems kind of crappy at this point. Is there a reason GB didn't try to sign any free agents in this area except the bargain basement variety?

[Sho Nuff 720]

What are the projected starters? The line seems kind of crappy at this point. Is there a reason GB didn't try to sign any free agents in this area except the bargain basement variety?

 

I will ask the exact question I have asked others.

 

What guards were out there to sign? Hutch? And that is about it...and at what price did he go?

 

Wells will play center. Which is why the oft-injurred (lately) Flanagan was "let go".

 

They were not going to pay enough for Bentley...probably did not want someone Mawae's age...so what other centers were really out there?

[b.j. booker 0]

I will ask the exact question I have asked others.

 

What guards were out there to sign? Hutch? And that is about it...and at what price did he go?

 

Wells will play center. Which is why the oft-injurred (lately) Flanagan was "let go".

 

They were not going to pay enough for Bentley...probably did not want someone Mawae's age...so what other centers were really out there?

 

There was lots of cap room...shoulda signed hutch AND bentley

[49ER MAN 0]

There was lots of cap room...shoulda signed hutch AND bentley

 

Yeah, if you do that, that's all fine and dandy but then you have little to nothing else left for the rest of the team. If they would have signed one of the 2, fine but both did not make a lot of sense.

[ROBOKOP 0]

Ted Thompson has a policy of not overpaying for players regardless of need. Hutch is a great player, but he was overpaid; he is an offensive lineman. How many other great linemen are out there making half as much money? The Packers have a couple of solid people on their line and have excellent Tackles. The middle of the lie is a mess and needs to be resolved early this time around so they can get used to working together. Last year was a clusterflock. At least one of the guard positions has to be filled early in the draft, hopefully Max Jean-Gilles will slip into the second round. There is enough talent to compete for the second spot, be it having Barry at Tackle and Tausch moving to guard, or Whittaker getting good enough to keep a startig role. Coston might earn a shot at at least being a backup also. I just dont want to gamble on 2-3 positions this year. Maybe a battle for one of the guard spots but otherwise we could have:

 

LT: Chad Clifton

LG: Max Jean-Gilles

C: Scott Wells

RG: Mark Tauscher

RT: Kevin Barry

[Walter34 3]

From what I hear, Gilles is not slipping into round 2. Some mocks even have Chi taking him.

 

Regardless, that is a pretty weak interior that will hurt the running game and also will not bode well going against the other strong DTs in the division.

 

Shaun Rogers / Wilkinson

 

K Williams / P Williams

 

Harris / Scott

[hoffdaddy 1]

From what I hear, Gilles is not slipping into round 2. Some mocks even have Chi taking him.

 

Regardless, that is a pretty weak interior

 

Well, that's easy to say, considering the young guys they are high on haven't really even had a chance yet. I'm hearing they really like Junius Coston, possibly at one guard spot. They also really like Scott Wells and Chris White at Center.

 

They may or may not be a good unit, but at this point, I think it's a little presumptuous to say they're weak just because none of the guys I expect to start have really had a chance to prove themselves. Yet.

 

Talk to me in week 8, and I think we'll have a better feel for it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

There was lots of cap room...shoulda signed hutch AND bentley

 

Bentley was not coming to Green Bay. He went home to Cleveland...and used Philly to drive the price up a bit.

 

Hutch..is about the only one that would have made sense...and was TT really going to pay that much for a guard after letting 2 go last year?

 

And having cap room this year is great and all...but any GM that would have plunked that much down on a center and OG...knowing it will not be too long until they have to do something about their tackles would be foolish.

 

Well, that's easy to say, considering the young guys they are high on haven't really even had a chance yet. I'm hearing they really like Junius Coston, possibly at one guard spot. They also really like Scott Wells and Chris White at Center.

 

They may or may not be a good unit, but at this point, I think it's a little presumptuous to say they're weak just because none of the guys I expect to start have really had a chance to prove themselves. Yet.

 

Talk to me in week 8, and I think we'll have a better feel for it.

 

Not to mention Whitticker...too many people have given up on the guy and forget he was a rookie last season.

 

I like Charles Spencer at guard almost better than Gilles...and he should be there in the 2nd.

[Walter34 3]

Well, that's easy to say, considering the young guys they are high on haven't really even had a chance yet. I'm hearing they really like Junius Coston, possibly at one guard spot. They also really like Scott Wells and Chris White at Center.

 

They may or may not be a good unit, but at this point, I think it's a little presumptuous to say they're weak just because none of the guys I expect to start have really had a chance to prove themselves. Yet.

 

Talk to me in week 8, and I think we'll have a better feel for it.

 

You never know. I'm just basing it on last year's results. Sacks against and poor rushing overall. I think Bentley would have been a great FA addition. They had the cash and the need.

[Timinator 0]

Yeah, I'm a little worried about the line's interior. I do like that the team seems to have more competition this year. And I love that they didn't overpay for OL or any other FA. Value beats a bust everytime. Well, unless the bust belongs to that little redhead over at the corner Subway.

[Walter34 3]

knowing it will not be too long until they have to do something about their tackles would be foolish.

 

Both tackles are in their prime. They should need to replace them for a number of years.

[Baby Jesus 0]

The Pack needs to wake up and rebuild. They have one defensive stud and their offense is in shambles. I'd let Favre go wherever he wants, get what they can for Ahman and Walker and focking start over. What's the point of pretending for another season with Favre running the show?

[LunaTick 30]

Bentley was not coming to Green Bay. He went home to Cleveland...and used Philly to drive the price up a bit.

 

Hutch..is about the only one that would have made sense...and was TT really going to pay that much for a guard after letting 2 go last year?

 

And having cap room this year is great and all...but any GM that would have plunked that much down on a center and OG...knowing it will not be too long until they have to do something about their tackles would be foolish.

Not to mention Whitticker...too many people have given up on the guy and forget he was a rookie last season.

 

I like Charles Spencer at guard almost better than Gilles...and he should be there in the 2nd.

 

Wasn't the issue last year was not enough cap room?

 

Also, I think the packers are heading into a rebuilding phase. Not that having a solid linemen is a bad thing. But you are apt to take more chances on young players and then look for the probowlers just reaching their prime when the rebuild goes in for play off contention (if need be).

 

 

Question I have. Last week I went to the NFL Europe site. I noted that the Packers, among a few other teams, have Packers affiliations with lots of players over there right now. Among them a QB, etc.

How many, of any of those players, are going to make the roster this year?

 

How does that impact the rest of FA and draft for the Packers.

 

(wishing I could consider this for the Vikes. but they only have 1 guy over there this year.)

[Sho Nuff 720]

Both tackles are in their prime. They should need to replace them for a number of years.

 

Exactly...but they will have to reup their deals (not sure when their contracts are up)...just saying signing both (Bentley and Hutch) and having that much in a guard and center when the Tackles contracts will not be far behind would not work out to well.

 

Wasn't the issue last year was not enough cap room?

 

Also, I think the packers are heading into a rebuilding phase. Not that having a solid linemen is a bad thing. But you are apt to take more chances on young players and then look for the probowlers just reaching their prime when the rebuild goes in for play off contention (if need be).

Question I have. Last week I went to the NFL Europe site. I noted that the Packers, among a few other teams, have Packers affiliations with lots of players over there right now. Among them a QB, etc.

How many, of any of those players, are going to make the roster this year?

 

How does that impact the rest of FA and draft for the Packers.

 

(wishing I could consider this for the Vikes. but they only have 1 guy over there this year.)

 

Yes and no on the cap room.

 

Yes, it was the issue...I think, looking back, something could have been done to keep two of them. Though TT justified it by talking how guard was easier to replace, and the talk of that being too much for that position.

 

Hindsight being what it is about Flanagan's injuries and the way he played...probably would have been alot better to let him go and keep Wahle.

 

I think the Packers have already been in a bit of a rebuild. Look at the youth on defense...and now coming up on offense slowly.

 

Kampman, Barnett, Pickett, Cole, Jenkins, Williams, Collins, Manuel.....none are all that old on defense.

 

TT picked the defense this off-season thus far to build up.

 

Not so sure...how many NFLE players come in and make an impact. It does tire them out some. Maybe as a 3rd string QB...but that may be about it. I do not think it affects the draft at all.

[swamp dog 0]

the lions signed 3 so-so guards in free agency this year. does that solve a position problem? no. can it hurt? no. at least you have some new bodies in there, some depth to fight with in training camp--and who knows, maybe a guy who surprises.

 

i think there were some under-the-radar solid depth guys available in free agency that wouldn't have cost the packers an arm and a leg--guys that, while not necessarily solving the problem in an emphatic way would at least be considered positive steps.

[Sho Nuff 720]

the lions signed 3 so-so guards in free agency this year. does that solve a position problem? no. can it hurt? no. at least you have some new bodies in there, some depth to fight with in training camp--and who knows, maybe a guy who surprises.

 

i think there were some under-the-radar solid depth guys available in free agency that wouldn't have cost the packers an arm and a leg--guys that, while not necessarily solving the problem in an emphatic way would at least be considered positive steps.

 

They already have those so-so guys to compete though.

 

 

 

Guards competing now...Coston, Wells (not for sure the Center just yet), Whitticker, Traynor, Klemm....with talk of Barry or Tauscher making the move inside as well.

 

Then there is the draft. Looks like a definate movement to youth.

[Phurfur 70]

Remember there will be another round of FA after June 1st.