Hakim To Detroit?

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Per Rotoworld:

 

"The Lions are considering signing free agent WR Az-Zahir Hakim.

"We wanted to give him a physical to see where he's at," Millen said, not that they need another wide receiver. Hakim visited the Lions facility last Friday."

 

So let me get this straight. They use 3 straight #1 draft picks on WRs: Charles Rogers, Roy Williams, and Mike Williams. Scotty Vines shows up from God knows where, makes the team, and actually starts for a while. The offseason hits, and they spend a $2 mil signing bonus to bring in Corey Bradford. Now they want to sign Hakim too?

 

How many underperforming WRs does this team need in hopes that they can find someone, anyone to start across from Roy Williams? God forbid he get hurt yet again this year.

 

...didn't they already waste millions of dollars of their money on this guy before?

[Grind 0]

Another 5-year, 25 mill contract?????

[swirvenirvin 25]

he was a great wr under martz

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he was a great wr under martz

 

Maybe we need to define great. He was the #3 or #4 WR in St. Louis. I would agree that he was a "great" #4 WR. Guess I consider Marvin Harrison and T.O. and those type of WR's as great. Not sure Hakim falls into that catagory even under Martz.

[swamp dog 0]

yeah, looking at adding players is a bad thing

 

the bears have their own huge-azz problems at wr. i suggest you focus there.

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the bears have their own huge-azz problems at wr. i suggest you focus there.

 

This is a Lions thread. I suggest you focus there.

[swamp dog 0]

This is a Lions thread. I suggest you focus there.

 

it'd be a great signing if they can get him. why not? martz has a history with him with the rams and if martz wants him i say sign him. pretty simple.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

it'd be a great signing if they can get him. why not? martz has a history with him with the rams and if martz wants him i say sign him. pretty simple.

 

 

He could be their 2nd best WR.....

 

not kidding...

[swamp dog 0]

He could be their 2nd best WR.....

 

not kidding...

 

maybe. most certainly so if he were signed by the packers.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

maybe. most certainly so if he were signed by the packers.

 

our 3 WRs we drafted this year will turn out to be better then your 3 1st rounders....

 

hell they will be better this year....its not too hard to imagine them playing 16 games and getting a couple of TDs...

[ShaneFalco 0]

our 3 WRs we drafted this year will turn out to be better then your 3 1st rounders....

 

hell they will be better this year....its not too hard to imagine them playing 16 games and getting a couple of TDs...

 

I went to Western so I am a big fan of Jennings and think he'll be quite good in the NFL, but this is an idiotic statement. No one even knows the name of your other 2 WRs. Better than ROY? I highly doubt it.

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I went to Western so I am a big fan of Jennings and think he'll be quite good in the NFL, but this is an idiotic statement. No one even knows the name of your other 2 WRs. Better than ROY? I highly doubt it.

 

As a whole Detroit has the names but they suck....ROY is good....that is it....

 

 

As a whole it isnt hard to imagine our 3 mid rounders from this year being better than the 3 1st rounders the Lions took.....blowing 1 and soon to be 2 of them...

[Mack 1 6]

it'd be a great signing if they can get him. why not? martz has a history with him with the rams and if martz wants him i say sign him. pretty simple.

This, folks, is hyperbole at its finest. But then again, it's the Lions and their fans we're talking about.

 

A guy who might not be worthy of a roster spot on 75% of the teams in the league warrants consideration from the Lions? Not to mention a player who has already proven he can't stay healthy, and who will, at best, be the #4 WR?

 

Yeah, sure, let's bring him in. What a joke.

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This, folks, is hyperbole at its finest. But then again, it's the Lions and their fans we're talking about.

 

A guy who might not be worthy of a roster spot on 75% of the teams in the league warrants consideration from the Lions? Not to mention a player who has already proven he can't stay healthy, and who will, at best, be the #4 WR?

 

Yeah, sure, let's bring him in. What a joke.

 

again, if martz works him out and likes what he sees and martz wants him...who am i to argue? not saying how it will turn out, i don't know. but martz has earned the right as an oc to get a player he thinks will help. it could blow up. it could work out okay. who knows?

 

and that mindset is ridiculed by a person who simply dismisses everything with a wave of the hand and a "the lions are the lions and they'll always suck."

 

brilliant.

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As a whole Detroit has the names but they suck....ROY is good....that is it....

As a whole it isnt hard to imagine our 3 mid rounders from this year being better than the 3 1st rounders the Lions took.....blowing 1 and soon to be 2 of them...

 

Other than Jennings, it is hard to imagine. I'll give you Jennings *could* be better than BMW and CRog. They have done nothing on the field yet. I know you don't like swamp, but in bating him, try not to sounds like too much of a homer.

[swamp dog 0]

our 3 WRs we drafted this year will turn out to be better then your 3 1st rounders....

 

hell they will be better this year....its not too hard to imagine them playing 16 games and getting a couple of TDs...

 

is this the same asshat who in another thread chided me for being an "idiotic" lion fan?

 

your mid-round draft picks haven't even been in pads yet and you make that assinine claim? why? because the wrs tt drafted last year turned out so well--because the draft PERIOD of the packers last year turned out so well?

 

talk about idiotic homerism. get a clue.

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is this the same asshat who in another thread chided me for being an "idiotic" lion fan?

 

your mid-round draft picks haven't even been in pads yet and you make that assinine claim? why? because the wrs tt drafted last year turned out so well--because the draft PERIOD of the packers last year turned out so well?

 

talk about idiotic homerism. get a clue.

 

You compared the Hakim thing to the packers earlier in the thread.....so i compared our 3 mid rounders to your pathetic 3 1st rounders.......

[DrJ 0]

Millen's made so many dumb moves, he's forgotten how stupid they were the first time.

[Mack 1 6]

..."the lions are the lions and they'll always suck."

 

If the shoe fits....

[swamp dog 0]

You compared the Hakim thing to the packers earlier in the thread.....so i compared our 3 mid rounders to your pathetic 3 1st rounders.......

 

lol...yeah, roy is pathetic. i wish the lions would trade him for your mac conference guy jennings.

[KCFFL 0]

Roy is good but he could be great & who knows how good the other WR's are since the Lions have nothing but shmoes under center. Harrington? Kitna? McCown? GROSS! Now, that's pathetic!! LOL!!

[Sweetness_34 0]

"the lions are the lions and they'll always suck."

 

brilliant.

 

Agreed with your comment, but I do not think it is brilliant to come to that conclusion. It is self evident.

 

2001: 2-14

2002: 3-13

2003: 5-11

2004: 6-10

2005: 5-11

 

It's a trend....catch it.

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you know, Hakim can do other things for a football team

does he have to come in as a WR? no

 

Hakim has been a punt returner before and losing McQuarters who was their punt returner could be the reason they are looking.....

as said, Hakim was a good slot guy with Martz before, why not give him a shot to return punts and maybe work into the line-up every now and then

 

Martz loves his 5-wide sets and Hakim can beat any 5th corner or safety a team has

 

why is this so wrong?

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you know, Hakim can do other things for a football team

does he have to come in as a WR? no

 

Hakim has been a punt returner before and losing McQuarters who was their punt returner could be the reason they are looking.....

as said, Hakim was a good slot guy with Martz before, why not give him a shot to return punts and maybe work into the line-up every now and then

 

Martz loves his 5-wide sets and Hakim can beat any 5th corner or safety a team has

 

why is this so wrong?

 

My personal opinion is that this is not wrong at all. I am sure most people are simply tagging on swamp's chain in here. Detroit definitely needs WRs. Muhsin M is better than any WR the Lions have.

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you know, Hakim can do other things for a football team

does he have to come in as a WR? no

 

Hakim has been a punt returner before and losing McQuarters who was their punt returner could be the reason they are looking.....

as said, Hakim was a good slot guy with Martz before, why not give him a shot to return punts and maybe work into the line-up every now and then

 

Martz loves his 5-wide sets and Hakim can beat any 5th corner or safety a team has

 

why is this so wrong?

 

It's the fact they've already invested 3 1st round picks into what should be their 3 top wideouts, and then went to sign Bradford for several million dollars on top of that. Hakim shouldn't be a factor in the return game, the Lions spent good cash to keep Drummond around for that reason.

[Bad_Mo_focher 1]

I do not understand this club's fascination with WRs.

 

I mean, by now, you'd think that they would focus more on who is throwing the ball.

 

The Lions should look at very good clubs and what they do with their personnel. WR isn't a top priority.

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I do not understand this club's fascination with WRs.

 

I mean, by now, you'd think that they would focus more on who is throwing the ball.

 

The Lions should look at very good clubs and what they do with their personnel. WR isn't a top priority.

 

You are assuming the Lions want to be a good club.....

[DrJ 0]

Agreed with your comment, but I do not think it is brilliant to come to that conclusion. It is self evident.

 

2001: 2-14

2002: 3-13

2003: 5-11

2004: 6-10

2005: 5-11

 

It's a trend....catch it.

 

Only a Lion hater wouldn't see that this is progress. At this pace, they'll have a winning season by 2010.

[swamp dog 0]

My personal opinion is that this is not wrong at all. I am sure most people are simply tagging on swamp's chain in here. Detroit definitely needs WRs. Muhsin M is better than any WR the Lions have.

 

muhsin barely out-played mike williams last year--which tells had the bears drafted williams instead of benson (and they should have) he'd be their #1 this year, hands down.

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One has to wonder how bad Hakim's career has gotten, that he's considering going back to Detroit. It's pretty much a given that every player there considers it a near death experience, at least as far as their career is concerns, and would rather sell their soul than come back - he really must have hit rock bottom.

[swamp dog 0]

One has to wonder how bad Hakim's career has gotten, that he's considering going back to Detroit. It's pretty much a given that every player there considers it a near death experience, at least as far as their career is concerns, and would rather sell their soul than come back - he really must have hit rock bottom.

 

ooh, good one!

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muhsin barely out-played mike williams last year--which tells had the bears drafted williams instead of benson (and they should have) he'd be their #1 this year, hands down.

 

Right. The fat, lazy, slow WR would have overtaken the hard working Muhammad. Lovie Smith would have certainly made sure that was the case.

 

The fact that you've seen Mike Williams at work (or rather slacking off from it) on your very own team and think he should have been drafted 6 spots higher shows how truly clueless you are.

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Right. The fat, lazy, slow WR would have overtaken the hard working Muhammad. Lovie Smith would have certainly made sure that was the case.

 

The fact that you've seen Mike Williams at work (or rather slacking off from it) on your very own team and think he should have been drafted 6 spots higher shows how truly clueless you are.

 

Maybe BMW wouldn't have been fat and lazy if he played for a real franchise, and was learning from a hard worker like Moose rather than a princess like ROY. You never know....

 

But as it stands, he'll just be another in a long line of Lions busts...

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Right. The fat, lazy, slow WR would have overtaken the hard working Muhammad. Lovie Smith would have certainly made sure that was the case.

 

The fact that you've seen Mike Williams at work (or rather slacking off from it) on your very own team and think he should have been drafted 6 spots higher shows how truly clueless you are.

 

the numbers don't lie. mushy took you guys for a ride down the river.

 

badmouth mike all you want and jump on muhammed's jock until the cows come home. he still had three (3) more tds than mike last year--and mike almost outdid him sleepwalking (literally) through meetings and the season

 

Maybe BMW wouldn't have been fat and lazy if he played for a real franchise, and was learning from a hard worker like Moose rather than a princess like ROY. You never know....

 

But as it stands, he'll just be another in a long line of Lions busts...

 

again, mike would say: wtf? i bust my azz like that for another couple hundred yards and 3 tds? mush: youz, crazy!!

[DrJ 0]

the numbers don't lie. mushy took you guys for a ride down the river.

 

badmouth mike all you want and jump on muhammed's jock until the cows come home. he still had three (3) more tds than mike last year--and mike almost outdid him sleepwalking (literally) through meetings and the season

 

Moose would have been the leading WR on the Lions - nuff said.

 

again, mike would say: wtf? i bust my azz like that for another couple hundred yards and 3 tds? mush: youz, crazy!!

 

Wow, his attitude is worse than any of us have feared.

 

Glad you're still sticking up for the lazy waste of space.

[swamp dog 0]

Moose would have been the leading WR on the Lions - nuff said.

Wow, his attitude is worse than any of us have feared.

 

Glad you're still sticking up for the lazy waste of space.

 

actually, roy had 8 tds--which is a lot more than 3. so you're wrong, thanks for playing.

 

hey, mike's attitude will improve if that means getting a fat contract like the one mush has with the bears

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Agreed with your comment, but I do not think it is brilliant to come to that conclusion. It is self evident.

 

2001: 2-14

2002: 3-13

2003: 5-11

2004: 6-10

2005: 5-11

 

It's a trend....catch it.

 

They'll be 7-9 any year now.

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hey, mike's attitude will improve if that means getting a fat contract like the one mush has with the bears

 

Misinformed, as usual. Muhammed deal was 6 years for $30 million. When you see guys like Randle-El getting $5 million a year, Muhammad's contract can hardly be considered "fat".

 

Mike's just a lazy POS. Although, he might not be the slowest WR in the NFL without you swinging from his nuts.

 

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

They'll be 7-9 any year now.

 

Won't happen. Wayne Fontes isn't coming back.

[swamp dog 0]

Misinformed, as usual. Muhammed deal was 6 years for $30 million. When you see guys like Randle-El getting $5 million a year, Muhammad's contract can hardly be considered "fat".

 

Mike's just a lazy POS. Although, he might not be the slowest WR in the NFL without you swinging from his nuts.

 

 

that's no bargain--even if you are swinging from his nutz the guy had one good year and cashed in. good for him. too bad it was the bears being the patsy but that's life.