Brian Calhoun

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

Calhoun strikes me as Michael Bennett 2.0.

 

There is no parallel at all between the 2 except that they both played at WI. Bennett is a strait ahead runner with limited ability to make people miss and can't catch a cold. Calhoun has great wiggle, quickness and an outstanding reciever.

[hoffdaddy 1]

1- Ive had Larry Johnson on my team for 3 years, which makes me no genius since he went to the Chiefs who were already putting up monster #s.

 

2- Sorry, the guy just looks like a shrimp to me on film........my eyes dont lie, and I know talent and understand basically what it takes to get it done in the league.....there are many factors, and a whole lot of negative ones are at work right here in this case.

 

3- He's playing for the Lions.....thats fairly simple. Have at it and good luck with that.

 

4- I'll tell you who was NOT ripped..........Marshall Faulk. Being ripped is not a factor........there are about 2 in the league who ARENT.

 

Look, at some point its important to step away from the table and remove the 'homer' goggles. I know he's from the motherland and all, but lets try and be objective here.

 

And by the way, if you actually read anything I've posted or not, I'm not sure.

 

What's wrong with my statement? It's actually better to evaluate a player on his own merits, rather than lump him into the same as every other running back from a school line of thinking.

 

I think you're being a little defensive about this, and I'm not sure why. Nowhere did I claim the guy's the savior of the Lions, I'm merely suggesting that you're selling him short in your evaluation.

 

Again, I'd like to hear your negatives, or what you saw on film.

[SoloMatisse 0]

And by the way, if you actually read anything I've posted or not, I'm not sure.

 

What's wrong with my statement? It's actually better to evaluate a player on his own merits, rather than lump him into the same as every other running back from a school line of thinking.

 

I think you're being a little defensive about this, and I'm not sure why. Nowhere did I claim the guy's the savior of the Lions, I'm merely suggesting that you're selling him short in your evaluation.

 

Again, I'd like to hear your negatives, or what you saw on film.

 

 

Hoff-

 

Savior? I assume youre referring to Martz?...and not Calhoun. Anyway, I see no savior in Detroit in either case, so it doesnt matter. Look, Im not trying reinvent the wheel or overcomplicate anything. Sometimes, NOT seeing so much of a player while in college is a good thing. You dont become so attached. Sure, Calhoun has done some wonderful things at U-Dub, and I havent raked his game over the coals. I havent. I havent seen extended action of the man playing other than highlights. Im no authority on the man's game......only those in Wisconsin can proabably claim such. Im just keeping it simple. I said he looks small on film, and read that he doesnt run well between the tackles, and I can see why. That's it. Not a host of unnessecary negatives. Im not a hater. But to play RB in the NFL, you have to run between the tackles at some point.....bottom line. Its one thing to say its not a strength, and it wont happen much. But any NFL RB worth following MUST run between the tackles. If a guy has proven he cannot, he'll be real easy to game plan for once he steps on the field....no matter how quick he is. And Im not lumping Calhoun in with anyone. It'd be real easy to do as a Wisconsin guy and the history of accomplished backs that school has seen. And Ive done plenty of that in the past. But Im not doing it now. Im just saying he looks small, he doesnt run well between the tackles(according to sources), and he's playing for the Lions, who have a knucklehead OC who'll be gone in a year. I want no part of this player now or in 2 or 3 years. If Im wrong, it certainly wont be the 1st time.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Get over the Warrick Dunn comparsion already. Thats an insult to Dunn! The man looks small on film. He looks like a tremendous COLLEGE player. What else can I say?

Sho, look I hear your take about stashing him away on a dynasty team. Waiting a couple years or so for his talent to blosssom. Sounds like a great plan. I wouldnt hate anyone for doing it. But, you can pretty much say that about every single player coming into the NFL, now cant you? Stash away and see what happens, and hope for the best. Why, though? Because of the savior, Mike Martz? Dude, he had one of the 5 greatest RBs of all time at his disposal to focus that O around. AND Isaac Bruce and Holt. I dont see those tools in Detroit, and I dont see Calhoun as a Faulk type. Sorry. Martz is a knucklehead, and he'll be gone in a year.....I guarantee it.

 

Not every single back has the talent I have seen from Calhoun.

Martz may be one thing as a head coach...but the guy is a very good offensive coordinator.

[bigtuna 0]

Bryson is the real sleeper in Detroit IMO. If Jones falters he will likely get most of the carries, and catches.

[Phurfur 70]

Ive had him on a team for 2 years, the man is a beast and he runs behind the best line in football. There's no reason to draw a parallel between he and Calhoun right now.

 

Who said there was a parallel, we are looking at LJ with the first pick and Calhoun with the last.

 

Here you say you've had LJ for 2 years.

 

 

1- Ive had Larry Johnson on my team for 3 years, which makes me no genius since he went to the Chiefs who were already putting up monster #s.

 

Now you're saying you've had him for 3 years. I guess there goes your credibility.

[kutulu 1,675]

[SoloMatisse 0]

Who said there was a parallel, we are looking at LJ with the first pick and Calhoun with the last.

 

Here you say you've had LJ for 2 years.

Now you're saying you've had him for 3 years. I guess there goes your credibility.

 

God, there's a knucklehead born every friggin' day. Ive had LJ on my team for 2 seasons...this will be the 3rd....call it what you want. And the parallel between LJ and Calhoun SOMEONE ELSE made was saying that they both came from schools whose RBs tend to do nothing at the pro level.....thats it. You talk about my credibility again, chump, and we'll have a problem.

[Phurfur 70]

God, there's a knucklehead born every friggin' day. Ive had LJ on my team for 2 seasons...this will be the 3rd....call it what you want. And the parallel between LJ and Calhoun SOMEONE ELSE made was saying that they both came from schools whose RBs tend to do nothing at the pro level.....thats it. You talk about my credibility again, chump, and we'll have a problem.

 

It is a matter of credibility. Saying you had LJ on your team for 3 years makes it sound like you drafted him as a rookie and hung on to him waiting for the impending greatness you knew he would achieve. I'll bet you didn't even draft him in 2004.

 

I've had LJ on my team for 1 1/2 years. I did not draft him in 2004, I took Chris Brown in the third round and when he got hurt I needed a replacement bad. When Holmes got hurt I was too far down the waiver wire to pick up Derrick Blaylock so I was left with LJ and rode him to the championship. Keeping him last year was a no-brainer.

[swamp dog 0]

martz has said he's going to play bryson at fullback (part-time, full-time, i don't know). jones is the clear-cut #1. don't let anyone fool you.

 

calhoun will be a valuable football player this year, but not an ff player (imo).

[Cuse9 129]

My whole "lumping the Badger rbs together" was just a joke.

[bigtuna 0]

martz has said he's going to play bryson at fullback (part-time, full-time, i don't know). jones is the clear-cut #1. don't let anyone fool you.

 

calhoun will be a valuable football player this year, but not an ff player (imo).

 

If i have learned anything in FF in the past 10 years, is that i believe nothing what coaches and GM's say in the offseason.

 

Coaches play the best players all the time. On the football field it will be decided, who starts, and who sits and where. Jones is the #1 right now, but if he is outplayed by Bryson and Co. this year like last year, he will be on the pine. Its that simple.

[Guest the_chefs?]

Besides, look how great Wisconsin running backs do in the NFL...Ron Dayne, Michael Bennett, Anthony Davis, Brent Moss, Terrell Fletcher....okay, maybe not so great.....Alan Ameche, he was great (30 years ago).....

 

Alan Ameche was an actor that stared in many great films such as the original Heaven Can Wait and Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd in which Ameche's character makes a one dollar bet to ruin the lives of...

 

Oh wait. That's DON Ameche. He was from Wisconsin, though!

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

He's got some seriously good cutting skills but what I saw on the video is he seems to go down easy when contact is made but that could be just do to his size. He looks like a thinner Westbrook catching the ball.

[swamp dog 0]

If i have learned anything in FF in the past 10 years, is that i believe nothing what coaches and GM's say in the offseason.

 

Coaches play the best players all the time. On the football field it will be decided, who starts, and who sits and where. Jones is the #1 right now, but if he is outplayed by Bryson and Co. this year like last year, he will be on the pine. Its that simple.

 

if any player is out-played by the guy behind him, he loses his job. that's not really a newsflash--unless you're indeed saying calhoun will be the #1 rb in detroit this year.

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

if any player is out-played by the guy behind him, he loses his job. that's not really a newsflash--unless you're indeed saying calhoun will be the #1 rb in detroit this year.

Mike Tice will still play the lesser of the two players.

[kutulu 1,675]

Mike Tice will still play the lesser of the two players.

 

You mean Martz, right. Tice just throws darts at a piece of paper.

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

You mean Martz, right. Tice just throws darts at a piece of paper.

Actually I was reffering to Tice starting Bennett over Moore.

[kutulu 1,675]

Actually I was reffering to Tice starting Bennett over Moore.

 

I make Tice look smart. :ninja:

[hoffdaddy 1]

Hoff-

 

Savior? I assume youre referring to Martz?...and not Calhoun. Anyway, I see no savior in Detroit in either case, so it doesnt matter. Look, Im not trying reinvent the wheel or overcomplicate anything. Sometimes, NOT seeing so much of a player while in college is a good thing. You dont become so attached. Sure, Calhoun has done some wonderful things at U-Dub, and I havent raked his game over the coals. I havent. I havent seen extended action of the man playing other than highlights. Im no authority on the man's game......only those in Wisconsin can proabably claim such. Im just keeping it simple. I said he looks small on film, and read that he doesnt run well between the tackles, and I can see why. That's it. Not a host of unnessecary negatives. Im not a hater. But to play RB in the NFL, you have to run between the tackles at some point.....bottom line. Its one thing to say its not a strength, and it wont happen much. But any NFL RB worth following MUST run between the tackles. If a guy has proven he cannot, he'll be real easy to game plan for once he steps on the field....no matter how quick he is. And Im not lumping Calhoun in with anyone. It'd be real easy to do as a Wisconsin guy and the history of accomplished backs that school has seen. And Ive done plenty of that in the past. But Im not doing it now. Im just saying he looks small, he doesnt run well between the tackles(according to sources), and he's playing for the Lions, who have a knucklehead OC who'll be gone in a year. I want no part of this player now or in 2 or 3 years. If Im wrong, it certainly wont be the 1st time.

 

I don't see a savior either, that was what I was trying to say. I don't see Calhoun as having a huge impact this year, but long term, I think the guy has serious potential.

 

I respect your evaluation, and all I was looking for was to explain what you saw on film. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[Tusekan Raiders 0]

This situation is one of the most obvious in football. Jones is the feature back. Cory Schlesinger has a reduced role in Martz's single back offense. Pinner will be cut. Bryson is RB2 and Calhoun is change of pace RB3. Harris is a Martz favorite unlikely to stick b/c he isn't the return man Drummond is and Bryson is a better back. If Jones struggles/is injured, Bryson and Calhoun will uneffectively share carries as Martz tries to hammer a square peg in a round hole like every time he did when Faulk went down.