Drafting from the #3 hole

[deejsixer 0]

This year I plan on taking one of the big 3 (of course), taking the best available WR in the 2nd, and trading out of my 3rd round pick.

 

The plan is to package my 3rd and 5th round picks to the guy drafting in the #12 spot for his 3rd and 4th round picks (back to back). That leaves me with a #2 RB such as Chester Taylor, D. Foster (handcuffed with D. Williams a few round laters) or Addai (D. Rhodes is one of my keepers). It also leaves me with a #2 WR such as D. Jax, Driver or R. Williams. I also have another pick at the end of the 4th to take another WR or RB. I'll have 5 picks through 4 rounds.

 

My strategy is to originally offer this trade including swapping 6th round picks, but if he doesn't go for it, I'll settle for the deal above.

 

I just don't see alot of great value in the 3rd round this year. What do you all think?

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I just don't see alot of great value in the 3rd round this year. What do you all think?

 

This is the only sentence that stands out to me as a little off. How well do you know the other team owners? Unless you know them pretty well, I think one would be hard pressed to say there isn't a lot of value in the third round, before seeing who goes in round 2.

[deejsixer 0]

I'm not saying there are not any good players. Sure you will have guys like Chambers, Droughns, J. Lewis etc..., but I don't think this group will surely out perform guys drafted in the 4th. I'm just saying I'd prefer to have the extra pick.

[Zap 0]

12 current third round adps in order:

 

MHarrison (nice value, imo)

ABoldin (again nice value)

Droughns (could be needed depending on first two picks)

Dunn (usually a bargain)

JJones (falling to far based the blurb)

CChambers (atop a fresh tier of wrs)

AGates (mandatory TE gold)

Reggie Wayne (hard to find equivalent later)

Chester Taylor (tough call, interesting situation)

Corey Dillon (could be solid, whaddya expect about here?)

Reggie Bush (only time will tell)

Hines Ward (it's a solid tier)

 

I don't think your strategy is bad, seeking a team RB tandem, but you're dumping 3.3. Let's call that your favorite between Droughns, Dunn and JJ. A decent RB2 on a roster with a top stud RB and WR. And your dumping it too handcuff Addai Rhodes or Foster Williams? You probably cannot touch Foster without the trade, but you can likely cobble up Addai Rhodes without the trade in the 4th and 6th. Leaving an early fifth for whoever makes you happy.

 

On the other hand if you prefer Foster Williams or Addai Rhodes to Dunn or Droughns or JJ, then this works nicely. Interesting. Knock yourself out.

[deejsixer 0]

The part you are leaving out of the equation is the fact that I will have 5 picks through 4 rounds. Lets say I take:

 

Rd 1: LT

Rd 2: Fitz

Rd 3: J. Jones

Rd 4: Roy williams or Joe Horn

Rd 5: ?

Rd 6: QB

 

Rd 1: LT

Rd 2: Fitz

Rd 3 (traded) Driver

Rd 4 (traded) D Foster

Rd 4 Roy Williams or Joe Horn

Rd 6: D. Williams

 

Round 5 is a question mark. I can get some decent value there but is more of a risk. The league I'm in is PPR league so there is a huge run on WR in rds 3-4. I would probably end up with a guy like D. Branch.

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No, I understood the extra pick.

 

I like the first team better though. Handcuff JJ later, have a better set of wides and a better QB.

 

:shrug:

[tdsteve_2000 0]

This year I plan on taking one of the big 3 (of course), taking the best available WR in the 2nd, and trading out of my 3rd round pick.

 

The plan is to package my 3rd and 5th round picks to the guy drafting in the #12 spot for his 3rd and 4th round picks (back to back). That leaves me with a #2 RB such as Chester Taylor, D. Foster (handcuffed with D. Williams a few round laters) or Addai (D. Rhodes is one of my keepers). It also leaves me with a #2 WR such as D. Jax, Driver or R. Williams. I also have another pick at the end of the 4th to take another WR or RB. I'll have 5 picks through 4 rounds.

 

My strategy is to originally offer this trade including swapping 6th round picks, but if he doesn't go for it, I'll settle for the deal above.

 

I just don't see alot of great value in the 3rd round this year. What do you all think?

Not a bad trade really, but I think there is value early in the 3rd...Having one of the big 3 RBs is essentially like having two 2nd tier RBs, so I think you can afford to nab two top 10 WRs with your 2nd and 3rd picks, and take whatever RB(s) is left in 4 and maybe 5.

 

Myself, Id rather have the WR I'd get at 3.03 and keep my 4th rounder than have picks 3.12 and 4.01. Sure you sacrafice the quality of your RB2, but with one of the BIG 3 RBs you are at an advantage over the guys picking later in the round -- your RB1 is almost equal to their Rudi Johnson/Dominick Davis combo, and you could have two top tier WRs to go with him.

 

I had the #1 pick and made a trade with the guy at pick 3: I gave my 1st(1 overall), 3rd(25 overall), and 5th(49 overall) for his 1st(3rd overall), 2nd(22nd overall), and 4th(46th overall).....12 team serpentine, all TDs=6pts, no PPR.

 

My first 5 picks went from (1, 24, 25, 48, 49) to (3, 22, 24, 46, 48). I now have two 2nd rounders (no 3rd rounder), and two 4th rounders (no 5th rounder).

 

My plan is to take most likely LT, then two of the available WRs with my next two picks (CJ/Moss/Harrison/Holt), and will grab RB2 and RB3 with my 4th rounders. I have the luxury of knowing that over the last 3 years in my league in the first 45 picks, about 23 RBs will be picked (Rounds 3 and 4 are ALWAYS WR heavy in my league, which allows decent RB value to drop to the late 4th round...By picking 2 WRs with my 2nd rounders, I will start the WR run and my leaguemates will bite hook, line, and sinker), so by using this strategy I will get a top 3 RB, two top 6ish WRs, and still get two top 25 (or better) RBs. Ill then grab a QB and another position at the turn in 6/7.

 

It all comes down to personal preference on what youd arther have I guess. Knowing my leaguemates' tendencies helps me quite a bit, and Im pretty confident that this will go pretty much as planned. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

[c_Weezie 3]

Not a bad trade really, but I think there is value early in the 3rd...Having one of the big 3 RBs is essentially like having two 2nd tier RBs, so I think you can afford to nab two top 10 WRs with your 2nd and 3rd picks, and take whatever RB(s) is left in 4 and maybe 5.

 

Myself, Id rather have the WR I'd get at 3.03 and keep my 4th rounder than have picks 3.12 and 4.01. Sure you sacrafice the quality of your RB2, but with one of the BIG 3 RBs you are at an advantage over the guys picking later in the round -- your RB1 is almost equal to their Rudi Johnson/Dominick Davis combo, and you could have two top tier WRs to go with him.

 

I had the #1 pick and made a trade with the guy at pick 3: I gave my 1st(1 overall), 3rd(25 overall), and 5th(49 overall) for his 1st(3rd overall), 2nd(22nd overall), and 4th(46th overall).....12 team serpentine, all TDs=6pts, no PPR.

 

My first 5 picks went from (1, 24, 25, 48, 49) to (3, 22, 24, 46, 48). I now have two 2nd rounders (no 3rd rounder), and two 4th rounders (no 5th rounder).

 

My plan is to take most likely LT, then two of the available WRs with my next two picks (CJ/Moss/Harrison/Holt), and will grab RB2 and RB3 with my 4th rounders. I have the luxury of knowing that over the last 3 years in my league in the first 45 picks, about 23 RBs will be picked (Rounds 3 and 4 are ALWAYS WR heavy in my league, which allows decent RB value to drop to the late 4th round...By picking 2 WRs with my 2nd rounders, I will start the WR run and my leaguemates will bite hook, line, and sinker), so by using this strategy I will get a top 3 RB, two top 6ish WRs, and still get two top 25 (or better) RBs. Ill then grab a QB and another position at the turn in 6/7.

 

It all comes down to personal preference on what youd arther have I guess. Knowing my leaguemates' tendencies helps me quite a bit, and Im pretty confident that this will go pretty much as planned. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

 

 

Very nice pick trading , thats an advantage of knowing league . I was curious can you trade draft picks in ESPN FF league ??? Thanks

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I had the #1 pick and made a trade with the guy at pick 3: I gave my 1st(1 overall), 3rd(25 overall), and 5th(49 overall) for his 1st(3rd overall), 2nd(22nd overall), and 4th(46th overall).....12 team serpentine, all TDs=6pts, no PPR.

You're going down two picks in the first, up three in the 2nd/3rd and up three in the 4th/5th.

 

I take it you don't see much difference between the top 3 RBs? If so, this is a good trade, and you're removing the responsibility for getting the first round pick wrong.

 

Personally, I think Larry J will eat up the league and I'd rather be in your opponent's shoes than yours. But that's just me.

[tdsteve_2000 0]

You're going down two picks in the first, up three in the 2nd/3rd and up three in the 4th/5th.

 

I take it you don't see much difference between the top 3 RBs? If so, this is a good trade, and you're removing the responsibility for getting the first round pick wrong.

 

Personally, I think Larry J will eat up the league and I'd rather be in your opponent's shoes than yours. But that's just me.

I see LJ as the #1 overall, but not by much, and Id be happy with any of the 3, so I decided to let the guys picking in front of me decide for me, and to put my draft strategy into motion.

 

I know that the guys picking 2 and 3 will both go WR with their 2nd pick, so I get a leg up on them by having my pick of whos there at pick 22 instead of at pick 25, when 2 more WRs would be off the board. Also, I can take another WR at 24 before the guy I traded with takes his 2nd pick at 25.

 

So, lets say theres 3 WRs off the board when I pick at 22, according to what I think will happen (S Smith, Owens, and CJ I believe). I will have my pick of one of Holt/Harrison/R Moss/Fitz, then get one more of those guys at pick 24. If I stayed with picks 24 and 25, Id be looking at 5 WRs off the board for sure (pick 5 of Smith, Owens, CJ, Fitz, Holt, Harrison), which would mean I wouldnt get to pick which guys I got...Id have to take who fell.

 

The trade was based on the strategy that I will take 2 WRs with my 2nd and 3rd picks, and get RB2 and RB3 in round 4 unless rediculous value presents itself. This works beautifully if it pans out, which I think it will. Of course, if more WRs come off the board than I expect, I can always take RB2 at pick 24, which should be somewhere in the neighborhood of RB 17. (6WRs + 16RBs + 1QB in the first 23)

 

[zmanzzzz 1]

i drafted 3rd in a 12 team league and was in a quandery at 3.03. my insticts told me to draft an rb and keven jones was on top of my list. well i said to myself, who the fock is this guy and why the fock am i about to draft a detroit player.

 

after a few deep breaths i realised that the value at rb was just not there so a wr was the logical choice. luckilly torry holt was still on the board and i took him.

 

3.03 will yield wr value. since you got one of the big 3 rbs you are ahead of the game and just need to not make mistakes. not getting one of the big three should institue panic and a trade like you described may be in order.

 

you should sit tight with harrison/bolden/etc at 3.03.

[deejsixer 0]

Thanks for the input gentleman.