The use of this term has become a joke..........

[GrassyKnollSniper 0]

.........."INJURY PRONE" Any player discussed thus far this season, who happens to be returning after being injured last season is 'INJURY PRONE". Take a look at all starting RBs in the NFL who have been starters for 3 seasons or more, and tell me how many HAVEN`T missed playing time because of an injury. Do the same for QBs with 4 or more years as a starter. I guess that makes just about everybody in the NFL "INJURY PRONE". There are a few players that deserve that moniker, but if an RB catches a cold, that doesn`t make him injury prone.

[ricanrockers 39]

.........."INJURY PRONE" Any player discussed thus far this season, who happens to be returning after being injured last season is 'INJURY PRONE". Take a look at all starting RBs in the NFL who have been starters for 3 seasons or more, and tell me how many HAVEN`T missed playing time because of an injury. Do the same for QBs with 4 or more years as a starter. I guess that makes just about everybody in the NFL "INJURY PRONE". There are a few players that deserve that moniker, but if an RB catches a cold, that doesn`t make him injury prone.

 

 

Injury Prone in my opinion is a player who is hurt every year. For example Fred Taylor is "President" of the club. This guy when healthy could be a top 5 RB but you could never get 16 games out of him. He still drafted relatively high because RBs are in such demand and maybe this could be the year he stays healthy and plays all 16 games.....yeah right!!!!!.....

[mggoilers 0]

RB's: Shaun Alexander, LT2, Tiki Barber(lately), Rudi Johnson...don't miss games due to injury.

 

QB's: Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Trrent Green, Peyton Manning, Bledsoe, Delhomme.

 

That's just for starters, it's a grown man sport. people get hit, so people get hurt.

 

Some players are more prone to injury than others, and their history will support the moniker.

[GrassyKnollSniper 0]

Injury Prone in my opinion is a player who is hurt every year. For example Fred Taylor is "President" of the club. This guy when healthy could be a top 5 RB but you could never get 16 games out of him. He still drafted relatively high because RBs are in such demand and maybe this could be the year he stays healthy and plays all 16 games.....yeah right!!!!!.....

 

Fred Taylor...President? He`s the focking Emperior of the "Injury Prone" club!

[Parja 0]

Fred Taylor...President? He`s the focking Emperior of the "Injury Prone" club!

 

Emperor Taylor in his city Prone, the capital of Injury, sits atop a throne of broken bones wearing a crown of petrified torn ligaments inside his stronghold of glass.

[esoitl 0]

Injury Prone in my opinion is a player who is hurt every year. For example Fred Taylor is "President" of the club. This guy when healthy could be a top 5 RB but you could never get 16 games out of him. He still drafted relatively high because RBs are in such demand and maybe this could be the year he stays healthy and plays all 16 games.....yeah right!!!!!.....

HA

he's missed 7 games in the last 4 seasons and had 2 full 16 game season in that stretch

not to mention 2 years ago he was injured late and had 46 straight starts plus all of the preseason games up to that point

 

 

i love how not only is injury prone pulled too often but facts skewed to create arguments for players being injury prone..... nice try though

[Ilov80s 0]

HA

he's missed 7 games in the last 4 seasons and had 2 full 16 game season in that stretch

not to mention 2 years ago he was injured late and had 46 straight starts plus all of the preseason games up to that point

i love how not only is injury prone pulled too often but facts skewed to create arguments for players being injury prone..... nice try though

 

fine...you go ahead and draft him then.

[esoitl 0]

fine...you go ahead and draft him then.

damn right i will

especially now that people underrate him so much he is now a focking steal

 

even if he gets injured the reward for him being picked in the 8th is worth it

[skinsrule05 30]

damn right i will

especially now that people underrate him so much he is now a focking steal

 

even if he gets injured the reward for him being picked in the 8th is worth it

 

Nice, now I get to use another overused term.

 

The 8th round, his ADP is 5.10? WISH I WAS IN YOUR LEAGUE.

[esoitl 0]

Nice, now I get to use another overused term.

 

The 8th round, his ADP is 5.10? WISH I WAS IN YOUR LEAGUE.

ive been through 3 drafts so far, cant say i have ever seen him go that high

 

lets see

league 1: 9.10

league 2: 10.04

league 3: 10.10

 

curious as to why there is such a discrepancy there, maybe you're the one drafting with retards

[mggoilers 0]

ive been through 3 drafts so far, cant say i have ever seen him go that high

 

lets see

league 1: 9.10

league 2: 10.04

league 3: 10.10

 

curious as to why there is such a discrepancy there, maybe you're the one drafting with retards

 

 

Yeah, that was great. Only in a retards league draft would he go in the 5th round. He went late in my first draft too, 11th round. I was all over him.

[skinsrule05 30]

ive been through 3 drafts so far, cant say i have ever seen him go that high

 

lets see

league 1: 9.10

league 2: 10.04

league 3: 10.10

 

curious as to why there is such a discrepancy there, maybe you're the one drafting with retards

 

ADP per Antsports= 5.10

ADP per MyFantasyLeague= 5.03

ADP per FBGs= 4.11

 

Of course these all assume a typical 12 team league. If you are in a 6 or 8 team league you could probably get him in the 8th. But you should keep the small league size in mind when discussing draft positions.

[esoitl 0]

ADP per Antsports= 5.10

ADP per MyFantasyLeague= 5.03

ADP per FBGs= 4.11

 

Of course these all assume a typical 12 team league. If you are in a 6 or 8 team league you could probably get him in the 8th. But you should keep the small league size in mind when discussing draft positions.

i know what his ADP is

please show me some of your drafts whee he has actually been picked in the 5th round, please

 

AntSports is skewed by the fact that they have his high rated at 3.12

WTF??? in no way is this guy a 3rd round selection worthy of a 2nd RB at all

 

another example as t owhy you cant rely on ADPs

AntSports ADP for Curtis Martin - 7.03 High - 4.11 Low - 8.11

 

league 1: 10.02

league 2: 14.01

league 3: 10.07

 

have you done any drafts so far or are you just trying to save face here by pulling out ludicrously out of whack stats you find on the internet and think thats how things work?

 

o, btw, in an 8 team league there is no such thing as pick 10.10... just a hint there for ya in case you couldn't understand that either

[ellisonb11 0]

ADP per Antsports= 5.10

ADP per MyFantasyLeague= 5.03

ADP per FBGs= 4.11

 

Of course these all assume a typical 12 team league. If you are in a 6 or 8 team league you could probably get him in the 8th. But you should keep the small league size in mind when discussing draft positions.

 

anybody who drafts him that early is crazy! i havent seen him got that early in any drafts yet..ive seen him mid 6th, but thats as early as it comes. fred is a great value pick in the middle rounds.

[skinsrule05 30]

i know what his ADP is

please show me some of your drafts whee he has actually been picked in the 5th round, please

 

AntSports is skewed by the fact that they have his high rated at 3.12

WTF??? in no way is this guy a 3rd round selection worthy of a 2nd RB at all

 

another example as t owhy you cant rely on ADPs

AntSports ADP for Curtis Martin - 7.03 High - 4.11 Low - 8.11

 

league 1: 10.02

league 2: 14.01

league 3: 10.07

 

have you done any drafts so far or are you just trying to save face here by pulling out ludicrously out of whack stats you find on the internet and think thats how things work?

 

o, btw, in an 8 team league there is no such thing as pick 10.10... just a hint there for ya in case you couldn't understand that either

 

I have only done one league so far and that was a work league for little money ($25) so I don't take that as gospel. In that one he went 6.02. So beyond that little experience this season, yes I have to go by ADP. At least that way I get to see what has happened in many drafts.

 

Pulling stats from regularly accepted sources (Antsports, MyFantasyLeague, FBGs) is not ludicrous. I use these sources to plan my actual drafts and they tend to be fairly accurate. And as a tip, the "A" in ADP stands for average. So that doesn't mean every draft has him falling at that number. There will be high and lows and I will take that into account if I really want a guy.

 

The thing I find interesting is that in all of your leagues Taylor went 2-6 rounds later than the latest pick in 71 drafts on Antsports (I know that ludicrous website that no one takes seriously). Furthermore you have him going in the 10th round at the earliest. In FFtoday rankings Taylor is 29th. Even if you say he is higher (35+), which is high for a starting RB, you are saying there was only 35 RBs taken in the first 10 rounds (or 14 in that other draft). That seems very low to me.

 

As far as your comment about pick 10.10 I can't find where I wrote that number anywhere when I was talking about an 8 team league. Even your draft results don't have a 10.10. So Quote it and I will address it until than piss off.

[esoitl 0]

league 1: 9.10

league 2: 10.04

league 3: 10.10

 

As far as your comment about pick 10.10 I can't find where I wrote that number anywhere when I was talking about an 8 team league. Even your draft results don't have a 10.10. So Quote it and I will address it until than piss off.

 

Of course these all assume a typical 12 team league. If you are in a 6 or 8 team league you could probably get him in the 8th. But you should keep the small league size in mind when discussing draft positions.

oh how easily we forget....

 

And as a tip, the "A" in ADP stands for average. So that doesn't mean every draft has him falling at that number. There will be high and lows and I will take that into account if I really want a guy.

and yes... i am very much aware of this fact

 

BUT, look at the foolish highs on these players...

Martin in the 4th.... Taylor in the 3rd????

i as well use these as a reference as well as the rankings and projections off of this site but everyone has a different opinion of things

 

those ADPs i find are a very bad guage of how drafts actually go, in fact a lot of mocks are never very good guages and can easily be thrown off by an owner who has no clue

 

for Taylor:

9.10 - 30th RB

10.04 - 30th RB

10.10 - 30th RB

 

he's rated 29th and goes very close to according to that ranking

[skinsrule05 30]

oh how easily we forget....

and yes... i am very much aware of this fact

 

BUT, look at the foolish highs on these players...

Martin in the 4th.... Taylor in the 3rd????

i as well use these as a reference as well as the rankings and projections off of this site but everyone has a different opinion of things

 

those ADPs i find are a very bad guage of how drafts actually go, in fact a lot of mocks are never very good guages and can easily be thrown off by an owner who has no clue

 

for Taylor:

9.10 - 30th RB

10.04 - 30th RB

10.10 - 30th RB

 

he's rated 29th and goes very close to according to that ranking

 

Nice, revisionist history. If you look back at when I quoted your league results you will see you had the 3rd league at 10.07. I know if I look at your quote it is 10.10 so good change. You should also go back to your original post and change it there or people might not believe you new story. You also had league 2 at the 14th round.

 

I honestly think your 10th & 14th round picks of Taylor are as absurd as a 3rd round pick. But I do see that your league must not be weighted toward the RBs like a lot of mine are. I looked at my main league drafts for the last 2 year and each year there were 41 RBs drafted by the end of the 9th round.

 

The low demand for RBs in your league might be why these ADPs don't work for you. According to the averages (antsports) over 71 drafts there were 43 RBs taken. That is in line with my leagues which is why I have found in most of my drafts the ADPs are in line.

 

My scoring and roster requirements are pretty standard. Yours obviously de-value the RB whether it is through scoring changes or roster limits. It is fine to have different rules and I am not saying mine is the best. But you need to know that those differences will change the draft positions when compared to a typical league.

[esoitl 0]

you're getting confused because i posted 2 scenarios, the second was for Curtis Martin who again was well past his ADP

 

league set-up

 

QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, DST, 6BN

50yds/pt passing

20yds/pt rush/rec

6 pt TDs

 

thats different but scaled pretty much the same as standard scoring

[joho2o 0]

thats way too much discussion about fred taylor, let it go.

[Ilov80s 0]

While it is really really dumb to take Taylor or Martin in the 3rd round, there are morons out there who play FF. We have all been in leagues and seen some rookie or homer make a gut-wrenching pick. Last season I saw a first-timer take Charles Rogers in the 4th round. It does happen. So just because one idiot in AntSports took Taylor in the 3rd, that isn't too unrealistic and that doesn't drop his average too far down. His SD (9.18) reveals that Taylor is likely to be taken late 6th/early 7th. That seems fair to me. Keep in mind, even when he is healthy he doesn't score many TDs. He has remained pretty healthy over the last 4 seasons and only averaged 5 TDs a year.

[skinsrule05 30]

you're getting confused because i posted 2 scenarios, the second was for Curtis Martin who again was well past his ADP

 

league set-up

 

QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, DST, 6BN

50yds/pt passing

20yds/pt rush/rec

6 pt TDs

 

thats different but scaled pretty much the same as standard scoring

 

That does explain it. Most of those ADP/mock drafting sites use different scoring- 10yds/pt rush, 20yds/pt pass. A lot also use a flex lineup so you could be starting 3 RBs. Again makes RBs more valuable.

 

With your league rules I can see how it would be hard to know where guys will go unless you can find a good mock draft site that uses the same. For me ADP is very important. I do my projections and use VBD but I need to know when to take someone and have it still be value.