Waiver wire limitations....

[LSUtiger 9]

I am a commish of a league that I manage through Yahoo! We limit add/drops to roughly 20 per team for the season and charge $2 per.

 

My question to you is not whether I should restrict the add/drops but how I can control it so it's not a first come first served basis for adding FAs? This is the main gripe from people in the league - that someone can be sitting at home watching games with his laptop handy ready to go run to pick up a guy before someone else can. Is there a way on Yahoo to employ a priority system for adding free agents? I know you can do it for waiver guys... any help is appreciated...

[Bad_Intentions 0]

Not sure if yahoo offers this but I know espn does. Lock out free agent pick ups until Tuesday morning. It will still be first come first serve come tuesday morning, but you can't pick up guys while the games are going on.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 38]

There's a Commish approve option. Or, put in a worst to first priority with a deadline.

[LSUtiger 9]

Not sure if yahoo offers this but I know espn does. Lock out free agent pick ups until Tuesday morning. It will still be first come first serve come tuesday morning, but you can't pick up guys while the games are going on.

 

While this helps in a way I'm not sure it totally solves the problem of no priority system. I'm basically asking if Yahoo has any type of feature to limit FA pickups to a priority way...

[Bad_Intentions 0]

There may be an option to have players have to clear waivers before they are picked up. Not sure about that one though, If i was a commish in a yahoo league i'd find out for ya.

[mark32esu 18]

switch to sportsline!! they have a new feature this year that i'm definitely using in my league. you can assign an add/drop budget for everyone and in order to pick up a player, you have to go through an add/drop auction. you preset whatever day & time you want the bidding to end and the highest bidder at the end of that day gets the player. the website handles all the bidding for the commish. you have to budget your money for the whole season so it adds a little more strategy to our league.

[EaglesInCentral 0]

switch to sportsline!! they have a new feature this year that i'm definitely using in my league. you can assign an add/drop budget for everyone and in order to pick up a player, you have to go through an add/drop auction. you preset whatever day & time you want the bidding to end and the highest bidder at the end of that day gets the player. the website handles all the bidding for the commish. you have to budget your money for the whole season so it adds a little more strategy to our league.

 

I second sportsline.. I have been using it for over 3 years now and its really really good. Much better than both Yahoo and Espn which I used for years.

[Kellys Heroes 0]

I second sportsline.. I have been using it for over 3 years now and its really really good. Much better than both Yahoo and Espn which I used for years.

 

 

Yahoo free, sportsline bend you over and take half your league money .

 

One thing you can do is as commish, is lock everyones team at 1 o'clock sunday and then unlock them later. But I don't think they will like that.

[shotman 0]

The free Yahoo leagues don't allow it, but there is an option in the Yahoo Plus league called "Sun-Tues Waivers" that solves your problem. Cost is the same as Sportsline.

 

All unowned players are placed on waivers at 12:55 Sun until sometime Tues AM. Prevents waiver wire cherry-picking during the games on Sunday. Teams have to place waiver claims to pick-up players, and the claims are processed on Tues in waiver priority order. Once a team's claim is processed, that team gets dropped to the bottom of the list.

 

You can elect to reorder the waiver rankings each week based on league standings, or not.

 

Fox also offers the same option for free, but their software is still a little buggy.

[mark32esu 18]

Yahoo free, sportsline bend you over and take half your league money .

 

it's $11 a person for a 12 teamer, are you that cheap? plus sportsline has more features and quality than any other fantasy site, period. btw, you only have $260 in your league's pot?

[DaWeffa 0]

first of all why limit the pick ups if you are already charging?

 

second, why penalize those who pay more attention to the games?

 

i mean i am not a fan of the fact that you can just pick up players anytime but you are already penalizing folfs by making them pay 2 bucks a pickup...you should just make it to where there is a waiver priority i guess....auction deal sounds more fair though...

[shotman 0]

second, why penalize those who pay more attention to the games?

 

Why penalize those who can't? Some people work or have family obligations on Sunday and can't spend all day chained to their TV sets.

 

If I joined a league where the other owners spent all day Sunday scouring the waiver wire, and I didn't have that luxury, I'd be at a real disadvantage, wouldn't I?

[norseman 0]

I don't know if your host site allows it or not, but you could set up a specific time or times of the week for Waiver Wire pickups -- in other words, work it kind of like a draft. Teams with the worst records get first choice, etc. RealTime Sports allows this type of WW system. We use it, and it works very well in making sure no team has an advantage. Just a thought.

 

HTH

[Blaneyfan 0]

Some people work or have family obligations on Sunday and can't spend all day chained to their TV sets.

Find a new job and family fast!! Sundays are mine baby, don't mess with it! lol

 

Cheers

[waveman 0]

Have you looked at AOL, they have alot of options there.

[dbergan 0]

To: Yahoo FF Staff

From: Me

Date: 8/2/06

 

Type your feedback here:

Hi, I'm commish for a FF league this year and we are wondering if there could be a league option implemented that makes all free agent players turn to waiver players Sundays at the kickoff of their game. That way, if a FF manager is watching a player have a break-out performance on TV, they can put a waiver request in for that player, but wouldn't actually get them on their team until Tuesday, when the player goes to FA status. And if 2 (or more) people put in a request for the same player, he would go to the FF manager with waiver priority, not the one with the fastest mouse. I looked through all the league options and didn't see this. And being

a programmer myself, I am certain that it would not be hard to implement this option on your end.

 

Thanks,

David

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To: Me

From Yahoo FF Staff

Date: 8/2/06

 

Hello David,

 

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Fantasy Sports.

 

The option you are requesting is only available in our Fantasy Football PLUS Leagues.

 

The configuration option to place all unowned players on waivers in your league from Sunday morning until Tuesday night is located within Commissioner Tools.

 

Click on the 'Commissioner Tools' link which you will find on your League Overview menu, and then click on the 'Edit League Settings' link.

 

 

The option to select this waiver format appears at the bottom of the drop-down list.

 

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

 

Regards,

Marshall

 

Yahoo! Customer Care

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So... the feature is already in place, but they want us to pay for it. But I'll bet if they hear from enough players in the free leagues that want this, they'll probably make it available to us, too. Send them a quick email, and let's see what happens.

[steelers2101 7]

The free Yahoo leagues don't allow it, but there is an option in the Yahoo Plus league called "Sun-Tues Waivers" that solves your problem. Cost is the same as Sportsline.

 

All unowned players are placed on waivers at 12:55 Sun until sometime Tues AM. Prevents waiver wire cherry-picking during the games on Sunday. Teams have to place waiver claims to pick-up players, and the claims are processed on Tues in waiver priority order. Once a team's claim is processed, that team gets dropped to the bottom of the list.

 

You can elect to reorder the waiver rankings each week based on league standings, or not.

 

Fox also offers the same option for free, but their software is still a little buggy.

 

what he said.

[dbergan 0]

what he said.

 

I guess so... I wrote to Yahoo before he posted, and then when they replied I posted here without checking the other posts since then.

[MelKiperJr 0]

FOXsports.com is TOTALLY Free, and has all of the options of others.

 

I highly recommend it.

 

MKJr

[blue98 0]

We don't have a limit on transactions, but you must hold on to the player you picked up for two weeks, which has cut down on the amount of senseless pickups.

[darwin 0]

In my league I allow 1 pickup per week. On Thursday, I draw names from a hat to determine the pick order. That way everyone has an equal shot at someone. If you want unlimited pickups, then allow those after the drawing. To do this with Yahoo, you will need to manage the pickups yourself and enter who gets who. I don't use a service as I don't want to be stuck with the rules of free services or use a better one and have 20% of the money go to them. (60$ entry for 12 teams). It only takes me about an hour per week to do the scores using an Excel spreadsheet. This also helps me know who's doing good and who is available.

I don't like unlimited pickups as I don't want a huge phone bill and lost hours for countless stupid pickups. Fees would cut those down, but YOU try collecting fees from people you don't see often!

[Apex Predator 0]

Why penalize those who can't? Some people work or have family obligations on Sunday and can't spend all day chained to their TV sets.

 

If I joined a league where the other owners spent all day Sunday scouring the waiver wire, and I didn't have that luxury, I'd be at a real disadvantage, wouldn't I?

 

Unless you're running your own league to counter those owners who pickup&drop players on Sundays, the answer to your question is:

 

That's really your problem. The owners who spend their whole Sunday in front of the computer picking up players are sacrificing their Sunday as well. They are doing it, so they can win that pot of money. Your time is not anymore valuable than other people's. If you choose to play frisbee with your kids on Sunday, it's a choice you've made. The rest of the league should not be put on halt just b/c you choosed to do other things.

 

 

With that said, I am NOT saying that Fantasy Football should take priority over work or family. But, really, how come others' hands should be cuffed just so you can do whatever it is that you do on Sunday with a peace of mind?

 

To answer the LSU's question: Why not put all players on Waiver Wire status at all times? Is that one of the option that can be done on the Free League?

[eo11 0]

not sure if the league your in allows for it but the easiest method to solve free agnet and waiver wire problems is auctions then people put their money where their mouths are and either put up or they shut up

[zmanzzzz 1]

FOXsports.com is TOTALLY Free, and has all of the options of others.

 

I highly recommend it.

 

MKJr

 

are you the real mel kiper?

[FBH ** 0]

If he were the real Mel Kiper do you think he would be pushing a Fox Sports site?

 

He is an ESPN fanboy.

[shotman 0]

Unless you're running your own league to counter those owners who pickup&drop players on Sundays, the answer to your question is:

 

That's really your problem. The owners who spend their whole Sunday in front of the computer picking up players are sacrificing their Sunday as well. They are doing it, so they can win that pot of money. Your time is not anymore valuable than other people's. If you choose to play frisbee with your kids on Sunday, it's a choice you've made. The rest of the league should not be put on halt just b/c you choosed to do other things.

 

Some people choose to attend NFL games in person, instead of playing fantasy football and looking at porn in their parents basements.

 

One of the guys in my league has Buffalo Bills season tix. Another one has Seahawks tix. And another one has Bengals tix. I guess they wouldn't be welcome in one of your leagues. I wouldn't be welcome either because I attend 2-3 Giants games a year.

 

Yet another one is a 911 dispatcher who works weekends. Forget about that guy having a heart attack on Line 2.....Curtis Martin just went down and I have to grab his back-up before anyone else does.

 

Fantasy football leagues should be won by the owner who drafted the best and managed his team the smartest.......not by the guy with the best internet connection.

 

When you get to be an oldtimer like me, you'll understand. In the meantime we can agree to disagree.

[Apex Predator 0]

Some people choose to attend NFL games in person, instead of playing fantasy football and looking at porn in their parents basements.

 

One of the guys in my league has Buffalo Bills season tix. Another one has Seahawks tix. And another one has Bengals tix. I guess they wouldn't be welcome in one of your leagues. I wouldn't be welcome either because I attend 2-3 Giants games a year.

 

Yet another one is a 911 dispatcher who works weekends. Forget about that guy having a heart attack on Line 2.....Curtis Martin just went down and I have to grab his back-up before anyone else does.

 

 

 

When you get to be an oldtimer like me, you'll understand. In the meantime we can agree to disagree.

 

 

Maybe I should have changed my tone a bit in my original reply. No disrespect was intended, so I hope there's no love loss here.

 

However, if this matters at all, I work fulltime myself; been doing it for years actually. I am not undermining you guys' love for the sports, nor the importance of your job/family when compared to Fantasy Football. My point is simply this: The game is played on a Sunday. If you can't be in front of your computer to keep up with owners who snatch players up when injuries occur, then you shouldn't really place the blame on other people for doing so. What if Football games are played on Tuesdays, and you have that day off? Should you wait till other owners are free on Thursday just so you can pick up the next "Willie Parker"? What if someone else is not free on Thursday due to some type of emergency? Do you postpone it again?

 

 

Fantasy football leagues should be won by the owner who drafted the best and managed his team the smartest.......not by the guy with the best internet connection.

 

I agree with you on this. But, part of managing a team is to keep up with injuries and the depth charts for the teams your players are on. It has nothing to do with internet connection. Then again, if it's all about drafting the best roster, then why are you so worried about other ppl picking up players that were not drafted initially?

 

 

Like I said, the way to solve your issue is to start a league of your own. Maybe in your current league this isn't an issue since you all have the same lifestyle on Sundays. My rebuttal is simply for the scenario you have made. It wasn't to you directly.

 

P.S. - Not all computer people watch porn in their parents' basement. That's so................old school

[shotman 0]

The game is played on a Sunday. If you can't be in front of your computer to keep up with owners who snatch players up when injuries occur, then you shouldn't really place the blame on other people for doing so.

 

I never blamed other people for doing what I couldn't. The point of my post was that if I can't be in front of my computer on Sunday, I don't belong in a league competing against others who can. It would be a waste of my entry fees. (Actually, my original post was a response to the guy who had a Yahoo! question).

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with running a "cutthroat" league as long as everyone agrees to it. It's just not for everybody. A goldfish isn't going to last very long in a pool full of sharks.

 

Oddly enough, I ran a league a couple of years ago where I was the only guy who did stay home on Sundays. I went 14-2. For some reason, nobody wanted to come back to the league the following year.

 

Try this for a challenge: Increase your bench by 2 slots. Allow only 1 F/A pick-up per week. Rosters lock once the league playoffs start. That'll make you plan far in advance.

[thebook 1]

I don't like the idea of charging for transactions. I had to do a lot of add/drops last year, not due to excessive line-up juggling, but due to injuries. Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Joe Horn, Cadillac, Andre Johnson, Marc Bulger, and Nate Burleson missed a bunch of games for me and I was forced to the waiver wire many a time just to field a complete line-up. So not only would I have been without my star players, but I would also have forked over another $20 bucks or so? No like.

[Apex Predator 0]

I never blamed other people for doing what I couldn't. The point of my post was that if I can't be in front of my computer on Sunday, I don't belong in a league competing against others who can. It would be a waste of my entry fees. (Actually, my original post was a response to the guy who had a Yahoo! question).

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with running a "cutthroat" league as long as everyone agrees to it. It's just not for everybody. A goldfish isn't going to last very long in a pool full of sharks.

 

Oddly enough, I ran a league a couple of years ago where I was the only guy who did stay home on Sundays. I went 14-2. For some reason, nobody wanted to come back to the league the following year.

 

Try this for a challenge: Increase your bench by 2 slots. Allow only 1 F/A pick-up per week. Rosters lock once the league playoffs start. That'll make you plan far in advance.

 

 

I was under the impression that you think "Cutthroat" league has no place in Fantasy Football b/c certaiin people are busy on Sundays or what not.

[G3-175SE 0]

To: Yahoo FF Staff

From: Me

Date: 8/2/06

 

Type your feedback here:

Hi, I'm commish for a FF league this year and we are wondering if there could be a league option implemented that makes all free agent players turn to waiver players Sundays at the kickoff of their game. That way, if a FF manager is watching a player have a break-out performance on TV, they can put a waiver request in for that player, but wouldn't actually get them on their team until Tuesday, when the player goes to FA status. And if 2 (or more) people put in a request for the same player, he would go to the FF manager with waiver priority, not the one with the fastest mouse. I looked through all the league options and didn't see this. And being

a programmer myself, I am certain that it would not be hard to implement this option on your end.

 

Thanks,

David

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To: Me

From Yahoo FF Staff

Date: 8/2/06

 

Hello David,

 

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Fantasy Sports.

 

The option you are requesting is only available in our Fantasy Football PLUS Leagues.

 

The configuration option to place all unowned players on waivers in your league from Sunday morning until Tuesday night is located within Commissioner Tools.

 

Click on the 'Commissioner Tools' link which you will find on your League Overview menu, and then click on the 'Edit League Settings' link.

The option to select this waiver format appears at the bottom of the drop-down list.

 

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

 

Regards,

Marshall

 

Yahoo! Customer Care

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So... the feature is already in place, but they want us to pay for it. But I'll bet if they hear from enough players in the free leagues that want this, they'll probably make it available to us, too. Send them a quick email, and let's see what happens.

 

 

 

Do not pay for Yahoo Plus. It costs way too much. There are other sites for less money that will do that for you. CBS and Yahoo Plus are a rip-off.

 

While I can't speak for other websites, I do know that RTSports offers you the ability to select waiver wire picks during the week based on your W-L record and a few others. It works very well. You can set up a league for free and see if it works like you want. If not, you don't have to pay for it. If you like it you can still get in on the 10% discount so the league will be like $82 which is far better than the $120 for the others.

 

$40 might not sound like alot but why spend more than you have to for a quality product. You don't go to the highest priced gas station do you just because it has new shiny pumps do you? Most select due to price.

 

$120 divided by 12 = $10 per person

$82 divided by 12 = $6.84 per person

 

It isn't a cheaper site, it is a equal quality site for less money.

 

Unless you're running your own league to counter those owners who pickup&drop players on Sundays, the answer to your question is:

 

That's really your problem. The owners who spend their whole Sunday in front of the computer picking up players are sacrificing their Sunday as well. They are doing it, so they can win that pot of money. Your time is not anymore valuable than other people's. If you choose to play frisbee with your kids on Sunday, it's a choice you've made. The rest of the league should not be put on halt just b/c you choosed to do other things.

With that said, I am NOT saying that Fantasy Football should take priority over work or family. But, really, how come others' hands should be cuffed just so you can do whatever it is that you do on Sunday with a peace of mind?

 

To answer the LSU's question: Why not put all players on Waiver Wire status at all times? Is that one of the option that can be done on the Free League?

 

 

But it isn't fair that someone can immediately pick up free agents during a game. It needs to be put on a waiver wire so everyone has a chance at it. It isn't about whether or not you spend your time watching the game with your computer on but what is fair for all owners in the league. You want to put everyone on equal footing for the option of acquiring free agents.

 

If you don't agree then fine but don't blame us because we want it.

[Apex Predator 0]

But it isn't fair that someone can immediately pick up free agents during a game. It needs to be put on a waiver wire so everyone has a chance at it. It isn't about whether or not you spend your time watching the game with your computer on but what is fair for all owners in the league. You want to put everyone on equal footing for the option of acquiring free agents.

 

If you don't agree then fine but don't blame us because we want it.

 

Yes, if you see my other posts in this thread, I have suggested that another way to solve this issue LSU is having is to basically put ALL the players who were not picked from the draft on Waiver status for the entire season. This way, there will be no dispute on which players are picked up from the waiver since the system is regulated by priority status.

 

What I was speaking of is for the leagues where the undrafted players are not always on "Waiver" status. For example, in Yahoo, when a player is dropped by the owner, the player is on "Waiver" for 2 days. After the 2 day period, it becomes a "Free Agent". At that point, it's available to all the owners at a first-come-first-serve basis.