****Official College Wagering Thread****

[new-guru 0]

College Game Spread

 

Thu 9/21 07:30PM

101 Virginia +17½ -110

102 Georgia Tech -17½ -110

 

Fri 9/22 08:00PM

103 Northwestern +7 -110

104 Nevada -7 -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:00PM

105 Wisconsin +13½ -110

106 Michigan -13½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:00PM

107 Minnesota U -2½ -110

108 Purdue +2½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

109 Miami Ohio +6½ -110

110 Syracuse -6½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 02:00PM

111 Ohio +21½ -110

112 Missouri -21½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:00PM

113 Louisville -15 -110

114 Kansas State +15 -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:00PM

117 North Carolina +16 -110

118 Clemson -16 -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:45PM

119 Kentucky +24 -110

120 Florida -24 -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:00PM

121 Iowa -20½ -110

122 Illinois +20½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 03:30PM

123 Rice +31 -110

124 Florida State -31 -110

 

Sat 9/23 02:30PM

125 Buffalo U +43 -110

126 Auburn -43 -110

 

Sat 9/23 01:00PM

127 Kent +7 -110

128 Bowling Green -7 -110

 

Sat 9/23 01:30PM

129 Tulsa +5 -110

130 Navy -5 -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:00PM

131 Cincinnati U +27 -110

132 Virginia Tech -27 -110

 

Sat 9/23 03:30PM

135 Penn State +16½ -110

136 Ohio State -16½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 03:30PM

137 Iowa State +24½ -110

138 Texas -24½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 05:00PM

139 Washington State -9½ -110

140 Stanford +9½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 03:30PM

141 Arizona State +8 -110

142 California -8 -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

143 UCLA -3½ -110

144 Washington U +3½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 03:30PM

147 Central Michigan -4 -110

148 Eastern Michigan +4 -110

 

Sat 9/23 04:30PM

149 Air Force +1 -110

150 Wyoming -1 -110

 

Sat 9/23 05:00PM

151 UTEP -9 -110

152 New Mexico +9 -110

 

Sat 9/23 04:30PM

153 West Virginia -21½ -110

154 East Carolina +21½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 08:00PM

155 Boston College -6½ -110

156 North Carolina St +6½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 12:30PM

157 Colorado +26½ -110

158 Georgia -26½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 03:30PM

159 Alabama +1½ -110

160 Arkansas -1½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

161 Army +11 -110

162 Baylor -11 -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

163 Temple +28 -110

164 Western Michigan -28 -110

 

Sat 9/23 06:00PM

165 Wake Forest +2½ -110

166 Mississippi -2½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

167 South Florida +5 -110

168 Kansas -5 -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

169 Louisiana Tech +24 -110

170 Texas A&M -24 -110

 

Sat 9/23 07:00PM

171 Mississippi State +9½ -110

172 UAB -9½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 08:00PM

173 Tulane +36 -110

174 LSU -36 -110

 

Sat 9/23 08:00PM

175 Utah -6½ -110

176 San Diego State +6½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 08:00PM

177 Hawaii +15½ -110

178 Boise State -15½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 08:00PM

179 Notre Dame -3½ -110

180 Michigan State +3½ -110

 

Sat 9/23 08:00PM

181 USC -21 -110

182 Arizona U +21 -110

 

Sat 9/23 09:00PM

183 Oklahoma State pk -110

184 Houston U pk -110

 

Sat 9/23 10:15PM

185 Idaho +23 -110

186 Oregon State -23 -110

[Yer mom 2]

Alright, lets start breaking down what APPEARS to be strong plays. Im looking at this UCLA Washington game here and here is what I see:

 

UCLA -3 vs Washington

 

Washington - Just had 2 BRUTAL games on the road at Oklahoma then at home vs. Fresno State. They looked pretty good in the first half vs Oklahoma (even though matador tackling led to one of their scores) and folded in the 2nd half. Then they came home and faced an always tough Fresno State team. If fresno State did not have the vicious game against Oregon the week before, they may have beat Washington. For those who missed it, the Oregon /Fresno State game was undoubtedly the hardest hitting game I have seen this season thus far. Bottom line, Pat Hills boys are blue collar and smack you in the mouth straight up. I know they REALLY wanted to "get on the map" by beating Oregon at home (which by the way they could have done if it wasnt for a field goal they blocked that Oregon recovered then scored on a fake FG for a TD) so they prepared heavily for that game and has less preparation for Washington the following week.

 

UCLA - Opened strong against a Utah team with great offense. UCLA's D kept Ratliff and boys to only one TD. Since then Utah has rolled their next opponents (Northern AZ and Utah ST) who are weak but none the less Utah showed their high powered offense is tremendous. The following week UCLA laid somewhat of an egg against Rice, but I think it was due in part to expecting to crush them. The line was 28, I dont think they saw Rice as any kind of threat. I think its safe to say that UCLA was looking ahead to their PAC-10 opener on the road at Washington. So basically with last week off, I think they have been preparing for this game for about 2-3 weeks now. Their well rested and SHOULD have a good strategy to contain Stanback. Without a doubt, Ty Willingham was salavating to beat Oklahoma on the road. I know they put a ton of time into studying Oklahoma and preparing for them. Then having to get ready for a brutal bout with Fresno State leaves me to think UCLA should be ready to roll on them here.

 

This sequence is eerily similar to that of the Michigan/Notre Dame game (Less the talent). Notre Dame started with 2 brutal games. Notre Dame went to G-Tech, Washington went to Oklahoma. Notre Dame then played Penn St at home and looked great, Washington played FS at home and won. Michigan crused through their first 2 week opponents preparing for ND and ate their lunches for them. This looks an awful lot like it should has the making for the same!

 

INTERESTING TIDBITS[/b]

Conference Openers - Karl Dorrell's Bruins are 3-0 in Pac-10 openers, with each win coming against Washington (2003: 46-16 in Rose Bowl; 2004: 27-21 at UW; 2005: 21-17 in Rose Bowl). Overall, UCLA has won its last five Pac-10 opening games. The last loss in a conference opener came at Oregon in the 2000 Season.

 

Vs. Washington - For the fourth straight season, the Bruins will open conference play against the University of Washington. The Bruins have won the last five series meetings (8-1 in the last nine) and own a 35-28-2 lead in the all-time series which began with a game in the 1932 season. UCLA has won the last two meetings played in Seattle (2002, 2004) and three of the last four contests played in the Northwest (2000-L, 1998-W). Overall, UCLA has posted a 13-18-1 mark in games versus the Huskies played in Seattle.

 

 

No such thing as a lock, but it looks strong!

 

GL

[American Chewy 98]

couple of early lines i liked (some have since moved) were:

 

Mizzou -20.5 (has looked dominate at home against overmatched opponents)

Iowa -20.5 (they can't set lines high enough against illinois)

Louisville -11.5 (got in real early for this, i upgraded it today at -13.5 when kstates leading reciever was announced suspended for this game)

 

another i put an early play on but not as strong as above:

S. Florida +5.5 (rumor is Kansas' QB is injured, i think s. fla matches up well)

 

i put in a small play on all these, even though i usually wait till friday to make most my picks.

[art schlichter's bookie 0]

Just throwing out some leans here:

 

Ohio +21.5

 

LV -14

 

Iowa -21.5

 

Wash +3

 

UTEP -9.5

 

ALA UNDER 37.5

 

W Mich -28

 

Ole Miss -2.5

 

Mich St +3.5

 

BYU -30.5

 

Minn/Purdue OVER

 

Hawaii +15, Hawaii ML +470

[Hurricane Ditka 0]

Not as many interesting games this weekend compared to last. I am working on my pics tonight looking and seeing some lines moving early.

[gummo_dude 0]

I'm liking Virginia +17 for the Thursday night game.

[EyeOfDaTiga 0]

Michigan -14 vs Wisconsin 11am

Minnesota -2.5 @ Purdue 11am

Louisville -14 @ K State 1pm

Florida St -30.5 vs Rice 2:30pm

UCLA -3 @ Washington 6pm

West Vir -21 @ East Carolina 3:30pm

Texas AM -24 vs La Tech 6pm

Notre Dame -3.5 @ Mich St. 7pm

USC -21 @ Arizona 7pm

BC -7 @ NC State 11am

South Carolina -29.5 vs FAU 6pm

 

Get on ND and USC heavy Saturday!!!!!

 

Ravens -6.5 is a lock also on Sunday!!!!!

 

 

 

Still picking 70% for the year !!!! Up a couple hundred! I don't put my picks on here and not bet them like alot of other people. Alot of ppl can tell you who to pick, but not all of them will put there own money up!

[EyeOfDaTiga 0]

I'm liking Virginia +17 for the Thursday night game.

 

 

I think Calvin Johnson puts on a show Thursday night on National TV and GT covers.

[art schlichter's bookie 0]

Took GT-17 for one unit.

 

Can't back putrid Virginia.

[phillybear 365]

Waiting to see if the Nevada line drops below 7, and it has at a lot of books, I will grab Nevada for 2 units on the Friday game. Still not sure if I am passing on the Thursday game. Virginia is rebuilding, and are playing awful football right now. The problem is that Georgia Tech is terrible ATS as a favorite, especially laying a big number as this. They simply don't blow out overmatched teams. Smells like a no play, but I'll see.

 

Just wanted to post my annual "Bubble Burst" angle.

 

Be careful of backing teams coming off their first loss in their next game, if they are/were ranked highly. Bettors may expect these teams to come out looking for blood in their next game vs an overmatched opponent, and kick some ass, like Texas over Rice this past week. However, the opposite usually happens, where that team not only doesn't bounce back, they usually play lethargically and dispirited in their next game. Go through the motions. Maybe winning, maybe losing, but if they are favorites, especially big favorites, or playing out of conference, or even worse for them, go on the road, it's a train wreck waiting to happen. This is because their "bubble has burst". Their hopes for a national championship have been erased. Their season is basically over, except for playing some key rivalry games. And these are kids. They play with emotion. And most of the time, they will lack emotion in these spots.

 

At one point, this go-against angle was covering at nearly 65% of the time. I haven't seen an update on this trend in the last 2 years. But it's still something to think about.

 

Therefore, obviously, I am leaning to Mich St this weekend over Notre Dame. They are probably the better team anyway, covered something like 8 of 10 vs Notre Dame, and matchup pretty well with them.

[phillybear 365]

(I'll repost this for Friday)

 

Overall College YTD: 52-42-1; +22.52 units

Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 19-9; +24.57 units

CFL 13-6; +11.85 units

 

Friday

 

Nevada (-6.5) for 3 units

Edmonton (-12) for 2 units

 

So far this year, I am 2-0 ATS going with Nevada, including a 3 unit winner last week, and 1-1 ATS fading Northwestern, including winning with Eastern Michigan last week. Bottom line, Northwestern is not good.

 

Key trends:

Nevada is 19-8 ATS at home last 27

Nevada is 11-2 ATS at home last 13

 

Let's start with Northwestern. They won their first game this year, playing with emotion for the memory of their deceased coach, and won over a rebuilding Miami OH team 21-3. They then went out and lost to Div 1-AA New Hampshire at home!!!! and held on to beat East Mich 14-6 as a double digit favorite. Their defense has been OK against very subpar offenses, giving up 4.8 yards per play vs teams that would average 5.8 yards per play. But their offense is in shambles, the strength of their team over the last number of years, averaging 4.5 ypp against teams that would give up 5.1 ypp. Basically, Northwestern hasn't played anyone decent yet, are are kind of lucky to be 2-1. They are rotating QBs, hoping to find a hot hand.

 

Meanwhile, Nevada started their season at Fresno St, and covered a generous spread, hanging tough throughout the game in an obvious revenge situation at Fresno, 28-19. They played Fresno St nearly even in total yards. They lost at Arizona St 52-21, but lost the TO battle 4-2. They got shredded by the Arizona St passing game, by a tune of 347 yards. They finally returned home vs Colorado St, and beat them up 28-10, outgaining them 381 to 177. Total domination against a team on their level. Let's face it, Fresno St and Arizona St are better teams than Nevada. But Northwestern is among the dregs of the Big 10 this year. Nevada is averaging 5.2 ypp vs teams that allow 4.5, and let's face it, they have played tougher teams than Northwestern. I cannot see Nevada having trouble moving the ball on the lately perenially weak Northwestern defense. And with so many skill position question marks on the Northwestern side of the ball, I can't see them back dooring this game on what has been a very strong home field for the Nevada "Pistol" offense. Nevada last week, veteran QB Rowe went 19-22, with 65 yards rushing. Nevada wins by double digits. This is as much a play on Nevada as much as a play against a suck ass Northwestern team. Northwestern has passed for 106, 173, 110 in all their games so far, and the 173 was against a Div 1-AA opponent. How the hell do they expect to move the ball against Nevada?

 

Lay the lumber. Good luck to all.

[GiantsRule 0]

As bad as these offenses are, nobody likes over 39 or over 39.5 for a nationally televised game? Even with the new rules, it's too low for college football.

 

But I won't take it unless a few of the big dogs take it.

 

(and philly, c'mon, you never met a televised (or non-televised game) you didn't like!)

[phillybear 365]

(and philly, c'mon, you never met a televised (or non-televised game) you didn't like!)

 

I might just wait to see what kind of half time line we get. Bottom line, my litmus point is: if this was a Saturday game, would I bet on it? And let's face it, I bet on 30+ Saturday games a week. But this is a game that simply does not attract much value.

 

Eh, what do I know. I will play it by ear tomorrow.

 

 

I must post my greast fear, that I am being suckered by the books...Nevada is seeing 75% of the action, but the line has dropped from -7.5 to my current line of -6.5. I don't get it. If doesn't Nevada cover, then I know that I have been suckered. But I have to follow my systems, and hope for the best. In college, anyways.

[Hurricane Ditka 0]

Do I even need to post my YTD record in college? Didn’t think so but I can tell you I cashed out a grand this week from my Bodog account. Big thanks to Philly for calling Jacksonville on MNF. I couldn’t get online to post (stupid Direcway internet) but cashed in on Philly’s pick.

 

Let us talk college!

 

My action:

 

Nevada -7 over Northwestern

*Nevada has covered every game and they just aren’t getting enough respect with a good quarterback and a great coach. Northwestern is 6-0 as a touchdown or more dogs but that was under the Coach Walker. The smart play is Nevada Reno.

 

Michigan -14 over Wisconsin

*I love this game, so Philly will be betting with the Badgers. #6 in the nation and the way they put it to the Irish I think they have found that “it” to roll all the way to the showdown with Ohio State.

 

Louisville -14 over KSU

*I think this line is a bargain due to the Cards losing Brohm and Bush. The fact is the rest of this Louisville team is loaded and KSU is 3-0 beating Illinois State, Florida Atlantic and Marshall all not in the same class as Louisville.

 

Navy -4 over Tulsa

*Tulsa beat 2 really bad teams and got beat by like 30 points by BYU. Navy 3-0 should continue to run the ball and play well. Solid team that doesn’t make too many mistakes.

 

West Virginia -21 over East Carolina

*I don’t care if this line was 100 I would bet on WV as they are my #3 ranked team in the country. They can beat up anyone they want to!

 

Iowa -21 over Illinois

*Anyone see the pathetic showing the Illini had against Rutgers? Drew Tate and Iowa should deliver a 44-10 like effort!

 

Notre Dame -3.5 over Michigan State

*I know all about the past 8/10 as mentioned in this game. I know about the “myth” of the let down in college football. Don’t care! The Irish got beat by a better Michigan team and they will bounce back and cover this line early and won’t look back.

 

Hawaii +15.5 over Boise State

*This one is all on you Philly and you haven’t even posted this yet. I love, no I LOVE Boise State. But I am totally taking Philly’s pretty little Rainbows! Gay~~~

 

I will be looking to add a couple first half lines on Saturday morning. (Going to watch for the WV, Auburn, Florida, USC, Michigan 1st half lines).

 

Nevada -7 WIN

Michigan -14

Louisville -14

Navy -4

West Virginia -21

Iowa -21

Notre Dame -3.5

Hawaii +15.5

 

1st Half Plays

USC -14 over Arizona

Notre Dame -1.5 over Michigan State

West Virginia -14 over East Carolina

Florida -14.5 over Kentucky

Iowa -13 over Illinois

Louisville -7.5 over Kansas State

Auburn -24 over Buffalo

[new-guru 0]

Tonights game

 

I'll take G-tech the line has moved down to -16.5

and first half line -10

 

Gtech defense is way better, their at home, national t.v. and Virginas QB's have thrown 5 interceptions already this year!!!!

[PackYourNut 47]

VA wont score... but can GT get to 17... hmmm...

 

I like it under...

[Bouve 0]

Season Total 29-25-1 +8.81 units

Parlays: 1-6 -1.1 units

 

GT -10 1st half 3 units WINNER

 

good luck

[iceblumist610 0]

I'm doing quite crappily this season (Week 1: 3-4-1, Week 2: 2-4, Week 3: 6-4, total: 11-12-1). Actually, if you look at my record, it should become clear to you that I lose four games every week. Thus, I should bet every game on the card and I'd clean up. Or not. Anyways, here were my early thoughts for this week. They're likely to change...

 

Wisconsin +14

UNC +16.5

Kent State +7

Cal -7.5

Miss State +10

Hawaii +15

Notre Dame -3.5

 

My favorite picks right now are UNC and MSU. I'm a little worried about Philly's angle on ND and Meatchicken State. I'm out listening to people and listening to their ideas and narrowing down my list to the cream of the crop.

[rjconley48105 0]

What I have read so far is Calvin Johnson may not play tonight its a game time decision and Virginia is startign a red-shirt Freshman. Can anyone verify this?

[Yer mom 2]

What I have read so far is Calvin Johnson may not play tonight its a game time decision and Virginia is startign a red-shirt Freshman. Can anyone verify this?

 

 

Red shirt at what position?

[Swanny1981 0]

What I have read so far is Calvin Johnson may not play tonight its a game time decision and Virginia is startign a red-shirt Freshman. Can anyone verify this?

 

Calvin Johnson is questionable because of a leg contusion. I am trying to find out some legit source who will say if he's playing or not, or whether he is gametime. And yes, Virginia is starting a redshirt freshmn at QB, Jameel Sewell. He is a more mobile quarterback, and played well for a half last week. Here is a little article about him:

 

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-31629s...story?track=rss

 

I'm still not sold on which way to bet, which means I shouldn't bet. But I need to since I haven't lost a Thursday game yet. I'll make a call in an hour or so.

[Swanny1981 0]

Alright, looks like Calvin Johnson will play. Also looks like Virginia's top CB Marcus Hamilton is questionable and less likely to play. I'm not hot on this game either way, but my play is-

 

Georgia Tech -16.5

[cribdog 0]

I think Notre Dame is the best bet on the board, the best bet I have seen this year so far, and I have been hot! I am loading up on this game, it will make or break my weekend. I understand Philly's argument of a letdown after a big loss, and there is merit to it. However, we have extenuating circumstance here, with MSU planting that flag on ND turf last year. I know ND has not forgotten it. Because of this, I think that the letdown angle will not be there, it will just be the pissed off play out of your ass angle, and this will be a route! Notre Dame by 3 touchdowns.

 

[Yer mom 2]

I think Notre Dame is the best bet on the board, the best bet I have seen this year so far, and I have been hot! I am loading up on this game, it will make or break my weekend. I understand Philly's argument of a letdown after a big loss, and there is merit to it. However, we have extenuating circumstance here, with MSU planting that flag on ND turf last year. I know ND has not forgotten it. Because of this, I think that the letdown angle will not be there, it will just be the pissed off play out of your ass angle, and this will be a route! Notre Dame by 3 touchdowns.

 

 

 

Wow. Thats some solid confidence there. I dont even care what the total is in this game is im goin over. Michigan State will be ready to play and if nothing else Notre Dame will score alot. The more I think about it the more this may become my strongest play of the week. Im loadin up on the total!!

[phillybear 365]

I put in some games early, as the lines are moving rapidly, and I didn't want them to reach bad numbers.

 

Nevada (-6.5) for 3 units

Utah (-8.5) for 3 units

Hawaii (+14.5) for 3 units

Florida (-26.5) for 2 units

Oregon St (-25.5) for 2 units

Michigan St for 2 units (waiting for this to get back to +3)

South Florida (+4) for 1 unit

 

I will add a lot more games.

 

Officially passing on the Thursday night game. Slight lean to under and Virginia.

[chiz3 1]

GT here. They always seem to plat well on Thursdays(like WVU). If Johnson wasnt playing, I was going to go with UVA or nothing. Good to hear Johnson will play. How is UVA supposed to cover him and Ball when they couldnt win straight up last week against a team they were favored by 10+ Seems too easy or its a trap.

 

GT -16 1/2

COLLEGE YTD 13-6

[Tom22406 0]

YTD 14-8 +6.35 units

 

Going with GT -16 tonight.1 unit

 

UVA is a bad offensive team that is starting a redshirt freshman QB.The running game has been horrible this year as well.

 

GT is clearly the better team and have revenge in mind and will win one for Ball since he's never beaten UVA in his 4 years.

 

UVA is also without it's top CB who has shut down CJ.

 

I smell blowout here.

 

GT 35 UVA 7

[Yer mom 2]

Anyone place a spur of the moment "what the heck the games about to start ond its on tv" wager? Took the under in the first half (fingers crossed)

[Yer mom 2]

Anyone place a spur of the moment "what the heck the games about to start ond its on tv" wager? Took the under in the first half (fingers crossed)

 

 

Sweet

 

Took GT inthe 2nd half -7...quickly jumped to -8. I dont think VA can score

[Bouve 0]

3 unit 1st half winner thanks to CJ, that guy is gonne be a stud in the NFL.

[EyeOfDaTiga 0]

I think Calvin Johnson puts on a show Thursday night on National TV and GT covers.

 

 

I love it when I'm right. Calvin Johnson is an animal! I bet'em, just need that under to hit.

[Yer mom 2]

Sweet

 

Took GT inthe 2nd half -7...quickly jumped to -8. I dont think VA can score

 

 

Wow, theres no way I thought I would regret this! Reggie Ball just joined the all Aaron Brooks team

[Tom22406 0]

YTD 14-8 +6.35 units

 

Going with GT -16 tonight.1 unit

 

UVA is a bad offensive team that is starting a redshirt freshman QB.The running game has been horrible this year as well.

 

GT is clearly the better team and have revenge in mind and will win one for Ball since he's never beaten UVA in his 4 years.

 

UVA is also without it's top CB who has shut down CJ.

 

I smell blowout here.

 

GT 35 UVA 7

 

Glad I waited for the line drop tonight.

 

Started out at 17.5 and dropped to 16 so I took it and ran.

 

Leaning on Nevada at this point for Friday but nothing official as of yet.

[dain11279 934]

I put in some games early, as the lines are moving rapidly, and I didn't want them to reach bad numbers.

 

Nevada (-6.5) for 3 units

Utah (-8.5) for 3 units

Hawaii (+14.5) for 3 units

Florida (-26.5) for 2 units

Oregon St (-25.5) for 2 units

Michigan St for 2 units (waiting for this to get back to +3)

South Florida (+4) for 1 unit

 

I will add a lot more games.

 

Officially passing on the Thursday night game. Slight lean to under and Virginia.

 

 

Philly, you're taking Hawaii??

[thekris 0]

Philly, you're taking Hawaii??

 

So is Hurricane Ditka. It's hard for me to argue when those 2 agree

[phillybear 365]

Philly, you're taking Hawaii??

 

Yep. Hawaii, along with Penn St, have made me the most money of any college teams the last two years. I already hit with Hawaii plus the points at Alabama, in a game they should have won, Hawaii 2nd half vs Alabama, and the blow out win over UNLV last week. +9 units on Hawaii so far this year, so I am rolling the dice with them again.

 

One key is to look at last years game at Hawaii, where Boise St won 44-41. Looking at the game more closely, Hawaii outgained BSU 556-430, Boise St scored on 42-yd int. return, 92-yd. punt return, 69-yd. blocked FG return. That's a lot fluke points. Hawaii scored an apparent game-tying TD with 3:31 to go, but Boise St blocked the extra point attempt and returned it for 2 pts. Hawaii got robbed, but were clearly the better team that day.

 

Hawaii spend last year rebuilding, playing a lot of freshmen and sophmores, and they are solidly contributing this year. Specifically the defense, which is vastly improved this year. The rank #25 vs the run, which is what Boise St wants to do, to keep the amazing Hawaii offense off the field. Boise St struggled at Wyoming last week, barely winning 17-10, and that included a Boise St INT for a TD. Their offense struggled mightily. Hawaii put up nearly 400 yards of offense on Alabama, then put up over 600 yards of offense on UNLV. And the UNLV game would have gotten much more ugly if not for the Hawaii backups coming in and turning the ball over and blowing scoring chances. The week before, UNLV held Iowa St to only 16 points. The only drawback to Hawaii is turnovers, but most have come by the backups, and with throws up for grabs at the end of halves and the final play of a game. And when you have an offense that throws this much, well, you can relate it to the St Louis Rams and Mike Martz with turnovers. This year, Hawaii has added a running game to the mix, witih a 295 bruiser in the backfield. And they ran for over 200 yards last week. Hawaii is averaging 7.1 yards per play vs teams that allow 5.8. Colt Brennan is ahead of the pace that Timmy Chang set at Hawaii.

 

While Boise St is dominant at home, covering 20 out of 22 at home when not favored at home by 28 or more points, this is the only reason why I am not making Hawaii a 5 unit play. Believe it or not, I think the wrong team is favored here. Hawaii can win the WAC this year. The linesmakers still haven't adjusted for how well Hawaii is playing right now, as they have covered both of their first two games easily. Boise St still hasn't played anyone decent yet, beating Sac St, Oregon St, and Wyoming. And remember, Wyoming lost to Virginia, the team that was on TV last night, showing how bad they are. Hawaii is flying under the radar, and if they give Boise St a tough game, they will be noticed more. Hawaii is a live dog in a game that figures to be a back and forth shootout.

[phillybear 365]

So is Hurricane Ditka. It's hard for me to argue when those 2 agree

 

Looks like we will be disagreeing on a few games. I like Wisconsin, Kansas St, Tulsa, East Carolina, Michigan St.

 

Looks like we agree on Nevada and Hawaii.

[thekris 0]

Looks like we will be disagreeing on a few games. I like Wisconsin, Kansas St, Tulsa, East Carolina, Michigan St.

 

I noticed the NotreDame/Mich St. difference. Didn't know you were taking the other teams yet though.

[phillybear 365]

I noticed the NotreDame/Mich St. difference. Didn't know you were taking the other teams yet though.

 

Still debating playing on Tulsa and East Carolina, waiting for a better line in Wisc and Kansas St and Mich St.

[phillybear 365]

It's still early, but this is what I have so far for Saturday...

 

Wisconsin

Minnesota (-2.5)

Kansas St (+14)

Kent St (+7)

Tulsa (+4.5)

Missouri (-21.5)

California (-8)

U Conn Moneyline

Central Michigan (-4.5)

Arkansas (-2)

Marshall (+21.5)

Air Force (+1) for 2 units

East Carolina (+21)

UTEP (-9.5) for 3 units

Mississippi (-2.5) for 2 units

Akron (-17) for 3 units

Syracuse (-7)

Washington Moneyline

South Florida (+4)

Florida (-26.5) for 2 units

Utah (-8.5) for 3 units

Hawaii (+14.5) for 3 units

Michigan St for 2 units Moneyline

Oregon St (-25.5) for 2 units