IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 WOW! You see people, that is why you DON'T GO FOR TWO IN THE FIRST HALF! I think its time for Bill to retire. He was a great coach, of course, but it seems like now he is a little clueless and may just be mediocre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardboy23 0 Posted November 5, 2006 WOW! You see people, that is why you DON'T GO FOR TWO IN THE FIRST HALF! I think its time for Bill to retire. He was a great coach, of course, but it seems like now he is a little clueless and may just be mediocre. REEEEALLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psunate77 0 Posted November 5, 2006 Yep, he will ###### about Vander and Owens celebrating, but this loss is all on him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yanko 11 Posted November 5, 2006 Did that face mask really deserve a 15 yard penalty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 Yeah, I mean you get a touchdown to go up 6-5 in the second quarter...WHY DO YOU GO FOR TWO? Did Parcells think that was going to be the last score of the game? It just made no sense at the time, and it cost the Cowboys that game. Say what you want about Vanderjagt, but Parcells shouldn't be surprised that the a-hole can't make a clutch kick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yanko 11 Posted November 5, 2006 He most certainly didn't lose the game besides they didn't lose by 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mambokings 0 Posted November 5, 2006 Rule #1: don't chase points. I agree it was unwise to go for a 2pt. conversion so early in the contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 He most certainly didn't lose the game besides they didn't lose by 1. Cowboys had the ball with 20 seconds left, but had to drive for a game-winning field goal. If they hadn't gone for 2 they probably would have been up by one at that point and could have just ran out the clock. Now sure, its hard to say what would have happened because maybe the Skins would have done something different if the score was changed, and there were also other reasons the Cowboys lost (missed field goal, T.O. drop, questionable facemask penalty), but the bottom line is YOU DO NOT GO FOR TWO IN THE FIRST HALF! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floods 0 Posted November 5, 2006 You can't put that block on Vanderjagt, that line got mauled and there was more than one set of hands that could've deflected that kick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 5, 2006 Is it really necessary to put something in caps when it's so focking obvious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 Is it really necessary to put something in caps when it's so focking obvious? If its so obvious to everyone then why did an NFL head coach go against it? Thats why I feel like it warrants all caps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yanko 11 Posted November 5, 2006 I agree the two point attempt wasn't wise but I'd list Gibbs move on the opening drive less wise. He wasted 3 points not 1. Sure you can say there was a higher reward for going for it on 4th down but they weren't coming close on the 50 previous attempts they had to stuff it in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHulka 0 Posted November 5, 2006 I was when he went for the conversion too. But you can't know for certain that Washington wouldn't have converted one themselves had Dallas just kicked the pat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted November 5, 2006 If its so obvious to everyone then why did an NFL head coach go against it? Thats why I feel like it warrants all caps. Well, no coach or anyone else cares that you put it in all caps. Why don't you go ahead apply for an NFL coaching job, skippy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted November 5, 2006 Did that face mask really deserve a 15 yard penalty? Nope... horrible call. Lots of bad calls (and no calls) by the zebras today. The Roughin the Passer stuff and seemingly arbitrary enforcement of the PI rule are getting out of hand... and it's affecting games. If you want to see what a truly sad state NFL officiating is in... watch the weekly interview Rich Eisen does with Mike Pereira (NFL Chief of officials) every week on NFL network. The guy is a clueless turd. Typical interview: Eisen: "It sure looks to me like it was a catch. Pereira: "Well, sometimes it's hard to tell on those bang-bang plays." E: "Well, it was reviewed wasn't it?" P: "Well, yes, but... it's still a judgment call, and the game moves so fast." E: "Isn't that why we have Instant Replay?" P: "Yes and no. It still comes down to the judgement of the official." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 Well, no coach or anyone else cares that you put it in all caps. Why don't you go ahead apply for an NFL coaching job, skippy. Really? You think I could do it? Thanks man, you just made my day! I think I WILL go ahead and apply. Can you do that on the internet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 5, 2006 I kind of agree that you should kick the extra point. The extra point is what I would have taken but I have seen other coaches do the same thing Parcells did that early in the game. The Cowboys took a 6-5 lead. They went for the 2pt try. Now look at the score again. 6-5. By missing the 2pt try the Cowboys were still in position to take the lead even if Washington scored to make it 12-6. One Td by Dallas would make it 13-12. I can see the thinking behind what Parcells did and I don't have a problem with the call. After the game has been played it's easy to sit back and say that they should have just kicked the extra pt but at the time of the decision I can see why they did what they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 I kind of agree that you should kick the extra point. The extra point is what I would have taken but I have seen other coaches do the same thing Parcells did that early in the game. The Cowboys took a 6-5 lead. They went for the 2pt try. Now look at the score again. 6-5. By missing the 2pt try the Cowboys were still in position to take the lead even if Washington scored to make it 12-6. One Td by Dallas would make it 13-12. I can see the thinking behind what Parcells did and I don't have a problem with the call. After the game has been played it's easy to sit back and say that they should have just kicked the extra pt but at the time of the decision I can see why they did what they did. I think you are missing the point. Rationalize it all you want, the fact is that you just DON'T GO FOR TWO IN THE FIRST HALF! (see, this is why I have to put it in caps) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 5, 2006 Regardless of what you think I still see the reason behind the call. When you have an off the norm score (5) Going for 2 becomes that much easier to try at some point during the game. And it was still early in the game. Every coach has a (game score book) that they usually make decisions by. Other than Washington fans just about every football fan in America thought the Cowboys would win the game. Going for the 2Pt play didn't lose the game for Dallas. The Cowboys did have a 7 point 2nd half lead (19-12) Their Defense let Washington back in it. I could care less about that 2Pt play. I do like to take the easier points whenever possible but like I said I can see the thinking behind the call. I'll leave it at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted November 5, 2006 If T.O. catches that wide-open bomb late in the game, it's all academic. That was as near a perfect pass as it gets. The one bright thing out of this loss was the play of Romo. If his play had been the reason they lost, it would've been catastrophic. At 4-4 they're by no means out of it. And Romo is really coming around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2006 If T.O. catches that wide-open bomb late in the game, it's all academic. That was as near a perfect pass as it gets. The one bright thing out of this loss was the play of Romo. If his play had been the reason they lost, it would've been catastrophic. At 4-4 they're by no means out of it. And Romo is really coming around. Very true. I don't get why T.O. is having all these drops this year. If I remember correctly he pretty much NEVER dropped a pass with the Eagles, right? Personally, I think he is just so set on making big, jaw-dropping plays to prove the Eagles wrong that he doesn't focus on the immediate thing, which is to catch the damn ball! As a fantasy owner it drives me nuts, and were I a fan of the Cowboys I imagine it would make me see red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterwolves 0 Posted November 5, 2006 I am sick of all the bitching from cowboy fans about the 15 yard facemask penalty. What about the trip on Randle El. If the Cowgirls don't trip him he is gone and the skins are up 26-19 late in the 4th. The there was a number of calls that TROY FOCKING AKIMEN was questioning the refs didn't call on the Cowboys and I didn't hear anything like that said about the Skins. Hell the Glenn TD should not have counted Cause Witten was holding. He got up and looked for a flag because he knew he did it. Give me a break Cowboy fans. Just say it was a hell of a game and the Skins came out on top. God knows you guys have broken our hearts many times in the last 10 years. Cowboys are not a playoff team period. Either are we but this game shows you guys aren't shiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FBJunkie2005 0 Posted November 6, 2006 The two-point conversion DID NOT cost them the game no matter how much you want to say so. It the Cowboys are ahead by a point don't you think Washington tries a little different approach there in the fourth quarter to get in field goal range. Hell, Vanderjoke might have missed the extra point. If they get it and win by two everybody is calling him a genious. I'd put the loss a lot more on drop by T.O. when he is two steps behind the secondary OR a stupid call by the officials (how the hell is THAT a 15 yard penalty?) than some decision to go for one instead of two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites