Alabama can't find a coach. Why would anyone got to SEC.

[santa*69 0]

Think about it. You are a great coach. The entire college world wants you. Why go coach in the SEC. If you take the Bama job and they promise you everything and you become a great team, What is your reward?

Congrats you have to play 4 or 5 now top 10 teams in you own conference and depending the year like LSU this year they all may be on the road. Oh and by the way if you happen to go undefeated Auburn, or lets say you have one loss Florida you still may not make the BCS Championship game.

 

If you are a great coach go to the Big 10 or Big 12 where you just have to get better than two teams or better yet go to the PAC 10 you just have to get better than one team.

 

Play always overrated Notre Dame in your non conference schedule and watch the BCS Championship games roll in.

 

Whatever you think about Pete Carol and USC you have to give Pete this. He had it figured out.

 

It will be like this until a playoff comes around. Then competition and great competition like the SEC provides will be seen as a proving and testing ground making you better for a playoff.

 

Alabama is having trouble getting a coach not because it is not a good job. It is because what is the reward of becoming great again in the SEC.

[Some Guy 0]

Could not agree more. It's hard enough for a SEC team to go undefeated, and when they do they get hammered for their non-conf schedule. I think the SEC teams should start scheduling teams like Baylor, Iowa State, Stanford, Illinois and Indiana for their non-conf games. The BCS is a joke.

[santa*69 0]

Could not agree more. It's hard enough for a SEC team to go undefeated, and when they do they get hammered for their non-conf schedule. I think the SEC teams should start scheduling teams like Baylor, Iowa State, Stanford, Illinois and Indiana for their non-conf games. The BCS is a joke.

 

 

The SEC should not take part in the bowl games. They should just have their own Championship and go home.

[Return of the King 0]

Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, FL, and Tenn. The Alabama boosters are the problem not the the SEC. Think of "Friday Night Lights" times 100 = Alabama football.

[JT 137]

Could not agree more. It's hard enough for a SEC team to go undefeated, and when they do they get hammered for their non-conf schedule. I think the SEC teams should start scheduling teams like Baylor, Iowa State, Stanford, Illinois and Indiana for their non-conf games. The BCS is a joke.

 

 

Vanderbilt, Mississippi Sate and Mississippi are true juggernauts.

[Return of the King 0]

Vanderbilt, Mississippi Sate and Mississippi are true juggernauts.

 

I guess the SEC is the only conf. that has a few weak teams.

[Sam Adams 0]

Vanderbilt, Mississippi Sate and Mississippi are true juggernauts.

 

Don't forget about that tough non-conference schedule they had of La Monroe, Duke, and Fla Int'l.....

[sly poppa 0]

Why live in Alabama when you can live in sunny southern cal?

[Return of the King 0]

Sorry but the BIG TEN took all the good teams like, Youngtown State, Eastern Illinois, Central Michigan, Ball State (isn't that a girls school), Montana, Northern Illinois, Bowling Green, Western Illinois, Buffalo (not the Bills), Idaho, Eastern Michigan and Akron. I think every conf. plays its share of cream-puffs.

[djrockstar 0]

Oh and by the way if you happen to go undefeated Auburn, or lets say you have one loss Florida you still may not make the BCS Championship game.

 

Auburn doesn't get to schedule The Citadel, Louisiana Tech and University of Louisiana (Monroe) as their non conference games and then complain they don't get any respect at the end of the year when they go undefeated.

[t.j 35]

Vanderbilt, Mississippi Sate and Mississippi are true juggernauts.

the top 7 teams in the SEC >> the top 7 teams in any other conference

[frank 2,177]

Buck Fama

 

 

Fear the Thumb

 

 

 

5 in a row

 

 

 

22-15

[swirvenirvin 25]

The SEC should not take part in the bowl games. They should just have their own Championship and go home.

I would love to see them drop out, and I would bet the Big 11 would go right with them.

 

That would be awesome

[frank 2,177]

Auburn doesn't get to schedule The Citadel, Louisiana Tech and University of Louisiana (Monroe) as their non conference games and then complain they don't get any respect at the end of the year when they go undefeated.

 

 

How about looking at the whole schedule instead of just part of it?

 

It's the TOTAL strength of schedule that matters. Even with those teams, an SEC schedule is plenty tough.

[Some Guy 0]

Vanderbilt, Mississippi Sate and Mississippi are true juggernauts.

 

 

True, these teams are down right now, but aside from Vandy that is not the case year in and year out. Put in a playoff system and no Conf will have anything to cry about.

[santa*69 0]

Buck Fama

Fear the Thumb

5 in a row

22-15

 

5 what in a row. I don't get this one please explain.

[frank 2,177]

5 what in a row. I don't get this one please explain.

 

2002: Auburn 17, Alabama 7

 

2003: Auburn 28, Alabama 23

 

2004: Auburn 21, Alabama 13

 

2005: Auburn 28, Alabama 18

 

2006: Auburn 22, Alabama 15

 

[GobbleDog 829]

Florida Gators 2006 Football schedule:

 

Creampuffs: Southern Miss, UCF, Kentucky, Western Carolina

Losable Games: Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Florida State, Arkansas

 

Compare that brutal schedule to USC's tea party. Clearly Florida deserves to play in the Championship game.

[RLLD 3,588]

The SEC should not take part in the bowl games. They should just have their own Championship and go home.

 

[GrassyKnollSniper 0]

Vanderbilt, Mississippi Sate and Mississippi are true juggernauts.

I`m glad you made that point JT. The true strength of a conference isn`t measured just by it`s top teams but the strength of it`s bottom teams as well. I`ll put Vandy, Miss St., and Ole Miss up against the bottom three teams in any conference in the land!

[Tango 0]

the top 7 teams in the SEC >> the top 7 teams in any other conference

 

 

 

You guys keep telling yourself this. When your teams lose, you rely on your "tradition" by rigging the human polls and keeping the BCS and mid-major up and comers out of the hunt by not agreeing to fair NC scheduling.

 

Bottomline:

The SEC Champ lost its BCS game last year at home and will lose this year too.

[nocarbs 0]

Sorry but the BIG TEN took all the good teams like, Youngtown State, Eastern Illinois, Central Michigan, Ball State (isn't that a girls school), Montana, Northern Illinois, Bowling Green, Western Illinois, Buffalo (not the Bills), Idaho, Eastern Michigan and Akron. I think every conf. plays its share of cream-puffs.

 

don't even get me started with the "Wine and Cheese"conf. The Pac-ten plays its share of cream-puffs also.

The SEC is without question the best conf. in the country. One reason is best every game is a rivalry. Ga. vs. Fla., Tenn vs Alabama, Auburn vs. Alabama, Auburn vs. Ga. , LSU vs. Old Miss, Auburn vs. LSU, Tenn vs. Ga, Tenn vs. Alabama and South Carolina vs. Ga. Every game every week is a bitter hated rivalry. Imagine Ohio St. having to play Michigan 3 times a year or USC playing UCLA 3 times a year.

[Return of the King 0]

 

You guys keep telling yourself this. When your teams lose, you rely on your "tradition" by rigging the human polls and keeping the BCS and mid-major up and comers out of the hunt by not agreeing to fair NC scheduling.

 

Bottomline:

The SEC Champ lost its BCS game last year at home and will lose this year too.

 

USC and FSU lost their BCS games last year also. I guess we should consider the Pac-ten and ACC as easy confs. also.

Two years ago Michigan lost in the Rose Bowl, we should also consider the Big Ten as a weak conf.

[RLLD 3,588]

USC and FSU lost their BCS games last year also. I guess we should consider the Pac-ten and ACC as easy confs. also.

Two years ago Michigan lost in the Rose Bowl, we should also consider the Big Ten as a weak conf.

 

[Tango 0]

USC and FSU lost their BCS games last year also. I guess we should consider the Pac-ten and ACC as easy confs. also.

Two years ago Michigan lost in the Rose Bowl, we should also consider the Big Ten as a weak conf.

 

Nope not weak...it just proves you are no better than they are.

 

The point is this:

 

SEC fans/press/coahces try to have it both ways:

 

-When you lose games, its because the conference is too good...so an SEC loss shouldnt count as much as anybody elses.

 

-When a team gets through the SEC undefeated, you say its not because they played in-conference cupcakes. As a matter of fact, you say an undefeated SEC team should automatically play for the NC since its the best conference.

 

Either way...you try to claim the conference is the best. And luckily for you you have been saying it for so long that some people actually believe that B.S.

 

Bottomline:

If you want to judge your conference versus other conferences, play games against other conferences and see how you do in the reg season and in the bowls. Since you seem to be afraid to go to other BCS/MWC/MAC stadiums...we will never know if the SEC is the best. You have excluded yourself from consideration. On the small sample that is the bowl season...your champ lost last year. The computers, which actually measure these things, say that the BE was the best conference at many points this year. That must drive you guys crazy!

[nocarbs 0]

Nope not weak...it just proves you are no better than they are.

 

The point is this:

 

SEC fans/press/coahces try to have it both ways:

 

-When you lose games, its because the conference is too good...so an SEC loss shouldnt count as much as anybody elses.

 

-When a team gets through the SEC undefeated, you say its not because they played in-conference cupcakes. As a matter of fact, you say an undefeated SEC team should automatically play for the NC since its the best conference.

 

Either way...you try to claim the conference is the best. And luckily for you you have been saying it for so long that some people actually believe that B.S.

 

Bottomline:

If you want to judge your conference versus other conferences, play games against other conferences and see how you do in the reg season and in the bowls. Since you seem to be afraid to go to other BCS/MWC/MAC stadiums...we will never know if the SEC is the best. You have excluded yourself from consideration. On the small sample that is the bowl season...your champ lost last year. The computers, which actually measure these things, say that the BE was the best conference at many points this year. That must drive you guys crazy!

 

 

When you go undefeated in the SEC and play in the Conference Championship game you did beat 3 or 4 top ranked teams along the way to going undefeated.

Also, University of Georgia has been trying to add a big ten school (came very close to adding Penn State) to their schedule, but some schools don't want to give up that extra home game every-other year. That is the main reason why alot of school don't want to play the SEC. Oklahoma dropped Alabama for that reason. It is mostly about Money than it is about winning a championship.

[PackYourNut 47]

Steve Spurrier is going to Alabama...

 

Hmmm... this is going to be interesting. Maybe they can beat Miss St next year...LOL

 

Dont ask for a link, I have a qualified source.

[BoltFan 0]

Florida Gators 2006 Football schedule:

 

Creampuffs: Southern Miss, UCF, Kentucky, Western Carolina

Losable Games: Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Florida State, Arkansas

 

Compare that brutal schedule to USC's tea party. Clearly Florida deserves to play in the Championship game.

 

And the winner of "Assclown Of The Year Award" is.............GobbleDog!!

 

How in the world do you include a 2-6 Alabama (in conference) a 1-7 Vanderbilt (in conference) and a shitbox FSU team as "Losable Games"?? What a joke!

 

Take a look at whom USC beat this year out of conference: SEC West winner Arkansas (GOT POUNDED in their own house by SC), Big 12 North winner Nebraska (got their ass handed to them by SC), and BCS bound Notre Dame (whom got their heads kicked in by SC).

 

Every year USC hears the same ol crap from other conferences fans, yet......the proof is in the pudding. SC put a beat down on Auburn in 2002 & 2003. Kicked the crap out of #3 ranked Iowa in the 2002 Orange Bowl, kicked the crap out of Michigan in the 2003 Rose Bowl, beat highly ranked VaTech in 2004, beat the living SH!T out of Oklahoma in the 2004 title game, hung 70 on Arkansas in 2005, and.......puts an annual beat-down on Notre Dame year after year. As for this year....see above (Ark, Nebraska, and ND got humiliated by USC). Others conferences talk it up on message boards.......USC just beats you down on the field.

[t.j 35]

 

You guys keep telling yourself this. When your teams lose, you rely on your "tradition" by rigging the human polls and keeping the BCS and mid-major up and comers out of the hunt by not agreeing to fair NC scheduling.

 

Bottomline:

The SEC Champ lost its BCS game last year at home and will lose this year too.

 

Stop grinning and name me a better top 7 from another conference, smart guy.

Guess what, the Pac 10 champ lost its BCS game last year at home too, genius. (BOTTOM LINE )

 

How in the world do you include a 2-6 Alabama (in conference) a 1-7 Vanderbilt (in conference) and a shitbox FSU team as "Losable Games"?? What a joke!

 

How can you cite a team's conference record when trying to criticize a conference? Get a clue.

[JT 137]

I guess the SEC is the only conf. that has a few weak teams.

 

No, this was in direct response to comments made about weak teams in other conferences (ie Baylor, Iowa St, Stanford, Indiana). Reading comprehension is a big plus in following these threads.

 

The SEC claims it's the best conference. The Big 10 thinks it's top two teams should rematch for the national title. Meanwhile, USC has been the dominant force in recent years, just as schools like Oklahoma, Nebraska, Miami, Florida, etc have been in the past. Truth is, the playing field in college football has never been more level. The advent of nationally televised games every night of the week, the passing game at the high school level, scholarship limitations; these and other factors are having similar effect on football as the three-point shot had in basketball. David has more and better chances to compete with Goliath.

 

The Alabama coaching job? Maybe SEC competition is a part of it, though I find it hard to give it much weight. Top level coaches/athletes think they can beat anybody, and rarely shrink from a challenge. Might be more realistic to look at the Bama program and realize it doesn't carry the national credibility that it did a few years ago. Ask yourself honestly: if you're a blue chip athlete, especially a black athlete, and you can go anywhere in the country, do you choose Alabama? It doesn't mean they can'ty change their direction. Programs do it every year. But the challenges are bigger than ever before.

[t.j 35]

The Alabama coaching job? Maybe SEC competition is a part of it, though I find it hard to give it much weight. Top level coaches/athletes think they can beat anybody, and rarely shrink from a challenge. Might be more realistic to look at the Bama program and realize it doesn't carry the national credibility that it did a few years ago. Ask yourself honestly: if you're a blue chip athlete, especially a black athlete, and you can go anywhere in the country, do you choose Alabama?

 

Bama went 10-2 last year. Their prestige isn't low as you make it out to be.

[BoltFan 0]

Stop grinning and name me a better top 7 from another conference, smart guy.

Guess what, the Pac 10 champ lost its BCS game last year at home too, genius. (BOTTOM LINE )

How can you cite a team's conference record when trying to criticize a conference? Get a clue.

 

Because, IN CONFERENCE, a loser like Vandy is NO BETTER than Standford.....both ONE win IN CONFERENCE. Vandy won 4 games this year......three of those wins came against Tenn. St. , Temple and Duke....WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOKE! Vandy sucks! To include them on a "losable games" list for the Florida Gators shows how way to many SEC fans are beggin fools that cry like little girls because they can't stand up to TRUE powers such as the USC Trojans! SEC fans talk it up about their conference schedules, yet play junior high school teams out of conference. A school like USC may have an easier IN conference schedule, yet schedules the SEC champ, the Big 12 champ, and what was the #5 BCS team as of last week (ND) in out of conference games. NOBODY in the SEC played a schedule as tough as USC's this year....check out the strength of schedule rankings......ROOKIE!

[JT 137]

Bama went 10-2 last year. Their prestige isn't low as you make it out to be.

 

Not slamming Bama; they had a solid year. But today it's out of sight, out of mind. I watched it happen at Oklahoma a few years ago. Have one or two down seasons (and a down season for those type programs is not competing for your conference title) and it sometimes takes a major shakeup to rebuild. Fortunately, if they make the right moves, those type programs can rebuild relatively quickly.

 

College sports tend to be cyclical. It's incredibly difficult to stay in the upper echelon year after year. Recruits are savvier and have more options than ever before. Facilities take time and huge $$$ to upgrade. I just don't think it's realistic to think that the Tide can't draw a coach because of the difficulty of playing in the SEC, or that the SEC is much (if any) better than other conferences throughout the country.

[Trojan35 0]

The reason 'bama can't find a coach is because they think they're an elite program that deserves an elite coach. In fact, they're no longer an elite program, they're not in a great area like Texas/LA/Florida, but their fans have elite program expectations. Alabama can't even gets its recruits to stay in-state anymore and loses them to the likes of the truly elite schools nation-wide. It's a 2-year and out job and no promising coach wants it.

 

Their wins this season:

Hawaii, Vanderbilt, Duke, La-Monroe, Miss., Fla. International.

 

To summarize:

- They're not good now.

- They don't have many good players now.

- They can't recruit like they used to.

- They think they should be good.

- It's a suicide-job.

 

The SEC being good or bad has nothing to do with 'Bama not finding a coach.

[t.j 35]

Because, IN CONFERENCE, a loser like Vandy is NO BETTER than Standford.....both ONE win IN CONFERENCE. Vandy won 4 games this year......three of those wins came against Tenn. St. , Temple and Duke....WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOKE! Vandy sucks!

 

Stanford only won a game because Washington sucks ass. HTH. They couldn't even win an out of conference game.

 

To include them on a "losable games" list for the Florida Gators

 

Well, it wasn't me that said they are in that category. But, Vandy is certainly much better than Stanford. And, Florida certainly played way more legit conference opponence than USC did. No way in hell would the Gators have lost to Oregon State.

[iceblumist610 0]

 

 

Bottomline:

If you want to judge your conference versus other conferences, play games against other conferences and see how you do in the reg season and in the bowls. Since you seem to be afraid to go to other BCS/MWC/MAC stadiums...we will never know if the SEC is the best.

 

 

Afraid?

 

Tennessee Volunteers...

 

11/8/03 @ MIAMI

11/5/05 @ NOTRE DAME

9/1/07 @ CAL

9/6/08 @ UCLA

9/5/09 @ MARSHALL (C-USA now, but they're an ex-MAC school, so I'm counting them in your @ BCS/MWC/MAC argument)

9/24/11 @ NORTH CAROLINA (okay, they suck now, but they're BCS conference and just got Davis)

TBA/2012@ NORTH CAROLINA STATE

9/14/13 @ OREGON

9/13/14 @ OKLAHOMA

9/10/16 @ NEBRASKA

[t.j 35]

Since everyone is knocking the SEC's non-conference performance, here's something I posted on another forum:

 

Here is the SEC's top 8 against teams from other power conferences this year:

 

Florida (SEC-1) @ Florida State (ACC-T8) W 21-14

Arkansas (SEC-2) v USC (PT-1) L 50-14

LSU (SEC-T3) v Arizona (PT-7) W 45-3

Auburn (SEC-T3) v Wash St (PT-8) W 40-14

Tennessee (SEC-5) v Cal (PT-2) W 35-18

Georgia (SEC-6) v Ga Tech (ACC-2) W 15-12

Kentucky (SEC-7) @ Louisville (BE-T1) L 59-28

South Carolina (SEC-8) @ Clemson (ACC-T5) W 31-28

 

The only argument you can make to try to say that the SEC didn't have an overall strong showing against the other BCS conferences this year is the margin of victory in the Arkansas/USC game. But McFadden's injury played a huge part in that, plus in the other SEC vs Pac 10 games, the SEC team was as impressive if not more impressive against that team than USC was (@Arizona 20-3, @WSU 28-22, Cal 23-9).

[BoltFan 0]

Stanford only won a game because Washington sucks ass. HTH. They couldn't even win an out of conference game.

Well, it wasn't me that said they are in that category. But, Vandy is certainly much better than Stanford. And, Florida certainly played way more legit conference opponence than USC did. No way in hell would the Gators have lost to Oregon State.

 

LOL.......come on. No way in hell Florida, with that piss-poor offense, wins verse Ark, Nebraska, ND, Cal, etc. etc. Give Florida SC's schedule this year and they lose three games.

[t.j 35]

LOL.......come on. No way in hell Florida, with that piss-poor offense, wins verse Ark, Nebraska, ND, Cal, etc. etc. Give Florida SC's schedule this year and they lose three games.

 

You're kidding, right? The best road win this year for Nebraska, ND, or Cal is a 4-point victory over #22 Georgia Tech. Those teams wouldn't stand a chance in the Swamp. And yeah, the Gators would have won at Arkansas when McFadden was hurting.

[nocarbs 0]

Get your facts straight, alot of Big Ten, Pac-10 etc don't want to play the SEC because they would have to give up a home game every other year. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ They make more money playing at home vs. Ball State than on the road vs. Georgia.