thenewlibrahi2 0 Posted December 24, 2006 0 pass yards in a quarter gets you to the pro bowl? really helps LT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted December 24, 2006 0 pass yards in a quarter gets you to the pro bowl? really helps LT Seattle is showing the rest of the NFL how to beat the Chargers. All ya gotta do is stop Rivers and LT... and they're done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thenewlibrahi2 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Seattle is showing the rest of the NFL how to beat the Chargers. All ya gotta do is stop Rivers and LT... and they're done. can't that be said for any NFL team? take out the RB and QB, and they're done.... problem is that rivers sucks and has 47 pass yards in 5 quarters. that might be worse if you go back 2 games, but i don't have time. too pissed off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Rivers does not suck. Not at all. He's never been anything but efficient, effective, and enthusiastic. He's a shining example of what is right in sports and has handled himself like a 10 year vet. I see all of the Chargers out around San Diego they are awesome guys, and I've never heard anything bad or of him doing anything stupid. He was respectful to Brees and Flutie and he has played effective football this year. He reminds me of a more physically gifted Brady with all the mental tools. That said Brady deserved the Pro Bowl over him. The Pats are coming to SD and winning the SUPERBOWL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thenewlibrahi2 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Rivers does not suck. Not at all. He's never been anything but efficient, effective, and enthusiastic. He's a shining example of what is right in sports and has handled himself like a 10 year vet. I see all of the Chargers out around San Diego they are awesome guys, and I've never heard anything bad or of him doing anything stupid. He was respectful to Brees and Flutie and he has played effective football this year. He reminds me of a more physically gifted Brady with all the mental tools. That said Brady deserved the Pro Bowl over him. The Pats are coming to SD and winning the SUPERBOWL! sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackPlague 1 Posted December 24, 2006 All Phillip Rivers does is throw touchdowns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Efficient, effective and enthusiastic. Survives 0-9 to make a play that is as smooth as silk, sliding to his left and throwing a beautiful pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 24, 2006 Rivers does not suck. Not at all. He's never been anything but efficient, effective, and enthusiastic. He's a shining example of what is right in sports and has handled himself like a 10 year vet. I see all of the Chargers out around San Diego they are awesome guys, and I've never heard anything bad or of him doing anything stupid. He was respectful to Brees and Flutie and he has played effective football this year. He reminds me of a more physically gifted Brady with all the mental tools. That said Brady deserved the Pro Bowl over him. The Pats are coming to SD and winning the SUPERBOWL! these stats are prior to sundays games First the total season numbers: Completion Percentage Rivers - 64.5% Brady - 60.5% Advantage: Rivers Passing Yards Rivers - 2879 Brady - 2946 Advantage: Brady (Although Brady has needed 47 more attempts to get those extra 67 yards) Yards Per Attempt Rivers - 7.52 Brady - 6.85 Advantage: Rivers Yards Per Completion Rivers - 11.66 Brady - 11.33 Advantage: Rivers Touchdowns Rivers - 18 Brady - 20 Advantage: Brady Interceptions Rivers - 6 Brady - 12 Advantage: Rivers (A huge difference-maker here, IMO) QB Rating Rivers - 96.3 Brady - 84.9 Advantage: Rivers Now let's look at some of the best/worst performance numbers: 3 Best Games (As measured by QB Rating) Rivers - W/L: 3-0 - 68/98 - 69.4% - 951 Yds - 7 TD - 0 INT - 124.1 QB Rating Brady - W/L: 3-0 - 67/101 - 66.3% - 811 Yds - 10 TD - 1 INT - 119.7 QB Rating Advantage: Rivers (I did not include Rivers' first game against Oakland in this calculation even though his 133.9 rating was his second highest of the season because he only had 11 attempts in that game) 3 Worst Games (As measured by QB Rating) Rivers - W/L: 1-2 - 52/96 - 54.2% - 544 Yds - 3 TD - 3 INT - 68.2 QB Rating Brady - W/L: 1-2 - 47/89 - 52.8% - 499 Yds - 1 TD - 5 INT - 49.8 QB Rating Advantage: Rivers Games Below 60% Completion Percentage Rivers - 4 Brady - 7 Advantage: Rivers Games With 70% Or Higher Completion Percentage Rivers - 4 Brady - 1 Advantage: Rivers Games With 300 Or More Yards Passing Rivers - 2 Brady - 3 Advantage: Brady Games With Less Than 200 Yards Passing Rivers - 4 Brady - 5 Advantage: Rivers 50+ Yard Passes Rivers - 3 Brady - 1 Advantage: Rivers Games With At Least 1 TD Pass Rivers - 11 Brady - 10 Advantage: Rivers Games With Multiple TD Passes Rivers - 6 Brady - 6 Advantage: Even Games With No Interceptions Rivers - 8 Brady - 5 Advantage: Rivers Games With Multiple Interceptions Rivers - 1 Brady - 2 Advantage: Rivers Games With A QB Rating Below 80 Rivers - 2 Brady - 5 Advantage: Rivers Games With A QB Rating Below 90 Rivers - 4 Brady - 9 Advantage: Rivers Games With A QB Rating Of 100 Or Higher Rivers - 5 Brady - 3 Advantage: Rivers Games With A QB Rating Of 120 Or Higher Rivers - 3 Brady - 1 Advantage: Rivers One of Brady's noted qualities is how "clutch" he is in critical games/situations. Now let's compare Rivers' and Brady's QB Ratings in several "clutch" categories (and a couple of other key comparison categories): Situation-----------------------Rivers---------Brady--------Advantage 4th Q: +/- 3 pts.---------------107.5---------105.4--------Rivers Last 2 Min. Of Half--------------102.8----------79.8--------Rivers 2nd Half------------------------104.8----------83.2--------Rivers 4th Qtr-------------------------122.0----------88.2--------Rivers 3rd Down------------------------96.1----------73.8--------Rivers 4th Down (Att)-----------------158.3 (5)------139.0 (7)----Rivers When Behind---------------------96.4----------69.3--------Rivers Opp 19-1 Ydline (Red Zone)------111.6---------104.9-------Rivers Against the Blitz-----------------132.2----------81.8-------Rivers vs. AFC--------------------------92.9----------76.3-------Rivers vs. NFC-------------------------113.6---------101.7-------Rivers Now let's look at the most important stat of all for any starting QB. This is something Brady's supporters often point to in his favor especially when compared with Peyton Manning - wins: Rivers - 11-2 ; AFC West Champions ; Current 1st Seed In AFC Brady - 9-4 ; 2 Game Lead In AFC East ; Current 4th Seed In AFC Advantage: Rivers I took this off another board not my research if any numbers are wrong, but its obvious THIS YEAR that Rivers is far superior to Brady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Garcia 8 Posted December 24, 2006 can't that be said for any NFL team? take out the RB and QB, and they're done.... problem is that rivers sucks and has 47 pass yards in 5 quarters. that might be worse if you go back 2 games, but i don't have time. too pissed off. It seems you're pissed off about a lot, go spend time with family and breathe a bit. FF isn't everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Dude get a clue. You either don't come to this site very often or you have no idea who the hell you are talking to. RIVERS IS EXCELLENT FOR A ROOKIE! He did not deserve to go to the Pro Bowl over Tom Brady. You want to see stats, ok here is one... 3 Super Bowl Championships.. here is one more.... 2 Super Bowl MVP's I can't wait to come to San Diego and crush the Chargers. I'll take Brady and Belichick over Rivers and Schottenheimer every day of the week. Leave the stats at home. Merry Christmas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 24, 2006 dude, im tired that probowls are based on lifetime stats, I dont care if Brady had won 15 superbowls, if he isnt having as good of a year this year, then someone else deserves to go. Frankly I am shocked they actually took Rivers, this is the first time they have done ###### not sentimental, look at Barber over Westbrook. Anyways, I would take Brady over Rivers any day as a charger fan, but the stats this year make Rivers the choice, take the names away and just look at the numbers and you would have to agree. and btw Ive been on this site since 02 and btw Rivers isnt a rookie, but being the football expert you are, I guess you choose to overlook that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 24, 2006 Dude get a clue. You either don't come to this site very often or you have no idea who the hell you are talking to. RIVERS IS EXCELLENT FOR A ROOKIE! He did not deserve to go to the Pro Bowl over Tom Brady. You want to see stats, ok here is one... 3 Super Bowl Championships.. here is one more.... 2 Super Bowl MVP's I can't wait to come to San Diego and crush the Chargers. I'll take Brady and Belichick over Rivers and Schottenheimer every day of the week. Leave the stats at home. Merry Christmas I can't for the life of me figure out why everybody hates NE fans with a passion. Oh yea I do, cuz of fokin idiots like this. Kurt Warner won a SB, maybe he should start for the NFC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Funaki 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Brady and Young deserve that spot on the roster more then Rivers who has been riding LT's coattails. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Dude obviously I know Rivers isn't a Rookie. I spoke of him playing behind Brees and Flutie. As a 1st YEAR STARTER ok.. better now. AND FYI.. Brady as more yards and more TD's then Rivers this year. Plus 3 more SuperBowls. Finally he's going to come to San Diego and beat Rivers head to head. Just like Manning, Gannon, McNair, McNabb, Delhomme, and the rest of the pretenders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 24, 2006 I can't for the life of me figure out why everybody hates NE fans with a passion. Oh yea I do, cuz of fokin idiots like this. Kurt Warner won a SB, maybe he should start for the NFC? Good point. if one player's (rivers) stats are better than someone else (brady), the next step in the pro bowl determination process is to see if the other player (rivers) has a great player (tomlinson) on their team. if so, the player with the lesser stats (brady) should go. Very smart thinking. Brady and Young deserve that spot on the roster more then Rivers who has been riding LT's coattails. See above comment. I hit the wrong reply. Dude obviously I know Rivers isn't a Rookie. I spoke of him playing behind Brees and Flutie. As a 1st YEAR STARTER ok.. better now. AND FYI.. Brady as more yards and more TD's then Rivers this year. Plus 3 more SuperBowls. Finally he's going to come to San Diego and beat Rivers head to head. Just like Manning, Gannon, McNair, McNabb, Delhomme, and the rest of the pretenders. Brady has 67 more yards and 2 more touchdowns on 47 more attempts. That's not better this year. It's like saying one running back is better with 100 yards on 47 carries than another who has 95 on 15 carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 24, 2006 By the way. Tom Brady has completed passes to 15 different receivers this year. As far as I can tell that includes Rookies, Dave Thomas, Chad Jackson, and Laurence Maroney as important weapons. It also includes 1st year players Bam Childress (3 career catches), Kelvin Kight (0 career catches) and of course the immortal Jabbar Gaffney and Doug Gabriel. In other words his best weapons are Troy Brown and Reche Caldwell (having a career year) and of course his TE tandem of Daniel Graham and Ben Watson. Brady has had one of his worst years yet his perseverance has really been amazing. Even with a down year statistically he's had better stats then Rivers. I could only imagine if he had LT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 24, 2006 LT is having the greatest scoring season of all time, say he has an avg yr for him of 22 td's that gives Rivers 9 more opportunities to score. LT is hurting Rivers numbers by being God this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 25, 2006 LIKE I SAID! He's nasty! He just shouldn't be a Pro Bowler over Brady. AWESOME PASS BY RIVERS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 25, 2006 terrible clock management but hey San Diego Super Chargers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted December 25, 2006 terrible clock management but hey San Diego Super Chargers! That's why he's not a pro bowler.. he's not playing at that level yet, he got lucky that Seattle folded at the end and just let Jackson run wild. Also .. how terrible was the San Diego coaching today? I'll give Rivers credit for surviving that awful coaching job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 25, 2006 Nobody $hits the bed like the Seattle Seahawks! Rivers ought to blow Michael Boulware for saving his sorry ass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 25, 2006 Jackson was open all day, Rivers consistantly underthrew him, Jackson looks like hes gonna be a stud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 25, 2006 Dude get a clue. You either don't come to this site very often or you have no idea who the hell you are talking to. RIVERS IS EXCELLENT FOR A ROOKIE! He did not deserve to go to the Pro Bowl over Tom Brady. You want to see stats, ok here is one... 3 Super Bowl Championships.. here is one more.... 2 Super Bowl MVP's I can't wait to come to San Diego and crush the Chargers. I'll take Brady and Belichick over Rivers and Schottenheimer every day of the week. Leave the stats at home. Merry Christmas A. Rivers is not a rookie... B. Yes, he deserved to go over Brady as he has better numbers and his team has won more games. C. 3 Super Bowl Championships have absolutely nothing to do with this year and the pro bowl...its not an award given for how you did before this season. D. MVPs...see C. Leave the stats at home...its about the pro bowl...stats have alot to do with it...leave the history from several years ago at home...its irrlevant to the discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 25, 2006 Leave the stats at home...its about the pro bowl...stats have alot to do with it...leave the history from several years ago at home...its irrlevant to the discussion. Rivers' completion percentage by month: September 71.7% October 64.6% November 62.8% December 53.3% And that was before today's 10/30 gem. How is that stat for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
