BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 For those who did not follow it the House just voted to censure Iranian President Ahjimadehan for threatening to "wipe Israel off the map". "This resolution is an exercise in propaganda that serves one purpose: to move us closer to initiating a war against Iran. Citing various controversial statements by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, this legislation demands that the United Nations Security Council charge Ahmadinejad with violating the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Having already initiated a disastrous war against Iraq citing UN resolutions as justification, this resolution is like déja-vu. Have we forgotten 2003 already? Do we really want to go to war again for UN resolutions? That is where this resolution, and the many others we have passed over the last several years on Iran, is leading us. I hope my colleagues understand that a vote for this bill is a vote to move us closer to war with Iran. Clearly, language threatening to wipe a nation or a group of people off the map is to be condemned by all civilized people. And I do condemn any such language. But why does threatening Iran with a pre-emptive nuclear strike, as many here have done, not also deserve the same kind of condemnation? Does anyone believe that dropping nuclear weapons on Iran will not wipe a people off the map? When it is said that nothing, including a nuclear strike, is off the table on Iran, are those who say it not also threatening genocide? And we wonder why the rest of the world accuses us of behaving hypocritically, of telling the rest of the world “do as we say, not as we do.” I strongly urge my colleagues to consider a different approach to Iran, and to foreign policy in general. General William Odom, President Reagan’s director of the National Security Agency, outlined a much more sensible approach in a recent article titled “Exit From Iraq Should Be Through Iran.” General Odom wrote: “Increasingly bogged down in the sands of Iraq, the U.S. thrashes about looking for an honorable exit. Restoring cooperation between Washington and Tehran is the single most important step that could be taken to rescue the U.S. from its predicament in Iraq.” General Odom makes good sense. We need to engage the rest of the world, including Iran and Syria, through diplomacy, trade, and travel rather than pass threatening legislation like this that paves the way to war. We have seen the limitations of force as a tool of U.S. foreign policy. It is time to try a more traditional and conservative approach. I urge a “no” vote on this resolution." Ron Paul - June 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted June 21, 2007 So Ron Paul thinks it'd be a good idea to let Iran attack us first, huh? Eerily reminiscent of Britain's response towards Germany prior to WWII. How did that work out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 So Ron Paul thinks it'd be a good idea to let Iran attack us first, huh? Eerily reminiscent of Britain's response towards Germany prior to WWII. How did that work out? Please explain to the rest of the idiots on this planet how exactly they are going to attack us. Let's see... Air Force....nope Naval Powerhouse....uh...nope ICBM Capabilities......negative Terrorists coming in through the Mexican Border.......Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner. You know what you're right...we should nuke them fukkers before they migrate into the US with a nuke through our unsecure Mexican border. (or we could stay out of the Middle East, build a rather large well, arm it with our Military, smile, enjoy our freedoms and have a BBQ during the summers) My GOD..it ALMOST makes sense. What a concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted June 21, 2007 Please explain to the rest of the idiots on this planet how exactly they are going to attack us. Let's see... Air Force....nope Naval Powerhouse....uh...nope ICBM Capabilities......negative Terrorists coming in through the Mexican Border.......Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner. You know what you're right...we should nuke them fukkers before they migrate into the US with a nuke through our unsecure Mexican border. (or we could stay out of the Middle East, build a rather large well, arm it with our Military, smile, enjoy our freedoms and have a BBQ during the summers) My GOD..it ALMOST makes sense. What a concept. hey, osama shiat in a cave in a remote region of afghanistan most of his life, too. how'd that turn out? might want to ask new yorkers the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,207 Posted June 21, 2007 Iran is no Iraq, they got skillz and they are crazy. They have been trained to be moronic pawns to corrupt religious zealots, they just dont know any better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 hey, osama shiat in a cave in a remote region of afghanistan most of his life, too. how'd that turn out? might want to ask new yorkers the answer. Do your homework Jackson. The FBI knew the attack was IMMINENT 2 months before it happened. It's our wonderful, government controlled society that BLEW IT because they chose to ignore VERY credible evidence warning them it was going to happen. If you don't believe me, there's a video you can watch on PBS about a guy from the FBI that was in charge of anti-terrorism pre-9/11 and there's mucho documentation where he tried to warn our Government and they flat out ignored him. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/ It's not a conspiracy theory. he didn't know it was going to be 9/11/01 but he knew it was coming and had it pegged within a week of the actual date. The only conspiracy is the one the government is selling your dumbass. Oh, and by the way....the 2 planes that hit WTC were out of contact for over an hour. Plenty of time to scramble jets and down them if necessary. But our fearless leaders were too busy reading books to 2nd grade kids and NOBODY else wanted to make the call. next time, come with a real argument and not one you've been spoon fed. hey, osama shiat in a cave in a remote region of afghanistan most of his life, too. how'd that turn out? might want to ask new yorkers the answer. Oh, and BTW...why the fukk is it that we can mobilize a Quarter of a Million armed men, tanks, planes, ships, rockets, guns and grenades 4000 miles away, destroy a 3rd world country's army and occupy it's capital within a period of 60 days, but it's been 6 years, and we still can't find one guy? Why? Because it gives us a fair enough reason to wage war anywhere, anytime. He's still out there...we're protecting you and your family (and our oil..but nevermind that). I suggest you wake up. Iran is no Iraq, they got skillz and they are crazy. They have been trained to be moronic pawns to corrupt religious zealots, they just dont know any better... I agree...they are trained...likely from birth to be anti US through and through. Maybe we should just eradicate them altogether? Don't get me wrong...I'm not a big fan of the Sand Jockeys. I think they fight just cause they ain't got nothing better to do, or they're just behind civilization by about 1000 years. And guys like Osama NEED TO BE DEALT WITH.....but you dont even hear about him anymore. it's all Iraq and Iran. Let's just take over the whole Middle East. Which BTW....ask Russia how they did when trying to take over and occupy a middle eastern country. All their tanks, helicopters, massive armies and air superiority couldn't defeat 10 year old kids on a Camel armed with a WWI rifle. Think about it. We WILL LOSE THIS WAR. Do you want the US to be in Iraq and Iran for 50 years like they are in Korea? How's our mission on freeing Korea going? So Ron Paul thinks it'd be a good idea to let Iran attack us first, huh? Eerily reminiscent of Britain's response towards Germany prior to WWII. How did that work out? Last I checked, Germany was defeated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 No Reply in over a half hour. Sounds like you got PWNED Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted June 21, 2007 Either that or he realized that there is no point arguing with someone who's candidate will be eliminated during the 3rd week of January. That goes for his VP running mate with the fat Chief of Staff as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 21, 2007 Either that or he realized that there is no point arguing with someone who's candidate will be eliminated during the 3rd week of January. That goes for his VP running mate with the fat Chief of Staff as well it's not so much about the candidate. it's about the philosophy, but you're right. There's no point in arguing because nobody can come up with a credible reason why this philosphy doesn't make sense. Apparently it's just too rational for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted June 22, 2007 Last I checked, Germany was defeated. After millions of dead. Nice retort Rosie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted June 22, 2007 After millions of dead. Nice retort Rosie. Well, here's the thing. EITHER way, the war was gonna happen. Germany dictated that. Do you really believe if Britain attacked Germany first, that the losses would have been any different, or are you that ridiculously stupid? (because I'm not really sure...I kinda think you're really that stupid) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colbert Nation 0 Posted June 22, 2007 2 options here... Leave the Middle East Forever and never ever fock with them or their oil ever again... Kill every last one of those uncivilzed rag wearing focks, put their heads on sticks and march up and down main street not sure which one.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites