Another #1 Bites the Dust!

[Coalter 0]

Now Cal is losing also, got to love the parity in College Football these days.

 

 

Go HOGS!!!!!

[jakeman24 0]

Now I have to listen to Herbsteit or whatever the hell his name is talk about how good his Ohio State team is and how they deserve to be #1. What a bunch of crock!!

[StrikeForce 11]

Congratulations Kentucky!

 

War Eagle!

[jakeman24 0]

Honestly, if the National Championship Game this years consists of Ohio State, Boston College, South Florida or any other school from a weak a$$ conference please just put me out of my misery!!

[Me_2006 14]

Go Cats!

 

 

Big Blue Madness last night, and a win over the #1 team in the country today. Sweet.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Honestly, if the National Championship Game this years consists of Ohio State, Boston College, South Florida or any other school from a weak a$$ conference please just put me out of my misery!!

 

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Big 10 is not a weak a$$ conference.

They have some struggles for sure. But so does the SEC...the major power conference who the Big 10 did quite well against last year...and that same conference that had Auburn lose to South Florida...

[nategraduates 0]

I still think LSU is leaps and bounds better than any team that will be ranked higher than it come next AP polls, they had like 6-8 dropped passes and Flynn was terrible. They should have won that game - hands down better than Kentucky.

 

But the Cats showed heart, that defense stepped up when it was necessary.

[jakeman24 0]

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Big 10 is not a weak a$$ conference.

They have some struggles for sure. But so does the SEC...the major power conference who the Big 10 did quite well against last year...and that same conference that had Auburn lose to South Florida...

 

Give me a break. The Big 10 is pothetic at best. Ohio State's signature win will be a #16 ranked Illinois team that just got their a$$ kicked by Iowa!

 

As far as South Florida is concerned, I like what James Carville had to say out it. "Mississippi State, perhaps the worst team in the SEC, beat Auburn at home. South Florida, the best team in the Big East, beat Auburn at home. So the best team in the Big East is just as good as the worst team in the SEC. I'm impressed."

 

Bottom line is, the SEC teams beat the SH!t out of eachother every week. LSU alone has to play 5 teams ranked in the top 25 not including Alabama, Arkansas and that Mississippi State team which they beat 45-0.

 

The only other conference that is at the same competitive level is the PAC-10. I will be shocked if Cal gets through unbeaten.

[mec411 0]

Give me a break. The Big 10 is pothetic at best. Ohio State's signature win will be a #16 ranked Illinois team that just got their a$$ kicked by Iowa!

 

As far as South Florida is concerned, I like what James Carville had to say out it. "Mississippi State, perhaps the worst team in the SEC, beat Auburn at home. South Florida, the best team in the Big East, beat Auburn at home. So the best team in the Big East is just as good as the worst team in the SEC. I'm impressed."

 

Bottom line is, the SEC teams beat the SH!t out of eachother every week. LSU alone has to play 5 teams ranked in the top 25 not including Alabama, Arkansas and that Mississippi State team which they beat 45-0.

 

The only other conference that is at the same competitive level is the PAC-10. I will be shocked if Cal gets through unbeaten.

 

just a thought- youre basing your "strength of your conference" on subjective rankings...whos to say the people that put those top 25 together are right? look at michigan losing to app state..

[Me_2006 14]

Give me a break. The Big 10 is pothetic at best. Ohio State's signature win will be a #16 ranked Illinois team that just got their a$$ kicked by Iowa!

 

As far as South Florida is concerned, I like what James Carville had to say out it. "Mississippi State, perhaps the worst team in the SEC, beat Auburn at home. South Florida, the best team in the Big East, beat Auburn at home. So the best team in the Big East is just as good as the worst team in the SEC. I'm impressed."

 

Bottom line is, the SEC teams beat the SH!t out of eachother every week. LSU alone has to play 5 teams ranked in the top 25 not including Alabama, Arkansas and that Mississippi State team which they beat 45-0.

 

The only other conference that is at the same competitive level is the PAC-10. I will be shocked if Cal gets through unbeaten.

Cal lost today too.

 

and yes, the Big 10 is incredibly weak. They can win against smaller, plodder-type teams that they can simply overpower, but their lack of team speed and big-time playmakers keep them a small notch below the elite teams in the other power conferences.

[kcsportsguy 0]

Go Kansas University......6-0

 

 

You know the Big 12 is messed up when KU is contending for a Big 12 title........and it's not basketball!

[TheBlade 3]

Give me a break. The Big 10 is pothetic at best. Ohio State's signature win will be a #16 ranked Illinois team that just got their a$$ kicked by Iowa!

 

As far as South Florida is concerned, I like what James Carville had to say out it. "Mississippi State, perhaps the worst team in the SEC, beat Auburn at home. South Florida, the best team in the Big East, beat Auburn at home. So the best team in the Big East is just as good as the worst team in the SEC. I'm impressed."

 

Bottom line is, the SEC teams beat the SH!t out of each other every week. LSU alone has to play 5 teams ranked in the top 25 not including Alabama, Arkansas and that Mississippi State team which they beat 45-0.

 

The only other conference that is at the same competitive level is the PAC-10. I will be shocked if Cal gets through unbeaten.

 

As a Florida alum, I must say that the SEC is the hardest conference in the country, and has been for the last 2-3 years. Any team in the SEC can beat any other team on any given day, especially at home. The SEC schedule is absolutely brutal on any team trying to compete for the national championship. There are multiple rivalry games each and every year. And then you have the SEC Championship game. Any team that makes it through that schedule and is still in the fight for the national championship deserves a shot at it.

[Me_2006 14]

Go Kansas University......6-0

You know the Big 12 is messed up when KU is contending for a Big 12 title........and it's not basketball!

Major props to you guys this year. I saw my first bit of KU action today, and you guys are miles better than previous years. Got a great looking basketball squad for this year too. Best backcourt in the country, as much as I hate to say it.

[gobuckeyes 0]

Cal lost today too.

 

and yes, the Big 10 is incredibly weak. They can win against smaller, plodder-type teams that they can simply overpower, but their lack of team speed and big-time playmakers keep them a small notch below the elite teams in the other power conferences.

 

Not saying the big ten is very good this year, and our schedule is pretty weak, but this is a dumb reason for why the conference sucks. Let me list some of the slow, plodder types who have come out of the big ten in recent years: Lee Evans, Santonio Holmes, Ted Ginn, Larry Johnson, AJ Hawk, Braylon Edwards, Plaxico Burress, those just off the top of my head. Also, Mario Manningham, Ray Small, Juice Williams, and Brandon Saine will all be joining those ranks soon. Michigan sucks because their coach hasn't come up with a new game plan in 10 years, Illinois sucks because they are young, Penn State sucks because they are becoming the Bengals of college football, I don't really know why Wisconsin sucks, but I'm pretty sure it's not because of speed since the teams they lost to are both in the big ten as well.

 

SEC homers, stfu already. Yeah, your conference is pretty good this year, but pretend like you actually watch the games and come up for a believable reason for it. WTF is this ###### about SEC speed? Do people in the South run all the time or something? I really doubt that because I have been to the south and you fuckers are FAT.

 

With how crazy this year is going, no one should be talking ###### about their team until the season is over. I have no idea how good OSU is this year, but we will be number 1 in the polls this week so I'm just going to try and enjoy that while it lasts. Talk to me in January and we can reflect on who the best team in the country actually is.

[StrikeForce 11]

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Big 10 is not a weak a$$ conference.

They have some struggles for sure. But so does the SEC...the major power conference who the Big 10 did quite well against last year...and that same conference that had Auburn lose to South Florida...

 

Oh yeah, the Big 10 did great last year against the SEC when it counted....UF (best in SEC) STOMPED Ohio State (best in Big 10).

 

BTW, South Florida's apparently no slouch.

[Me_2006 14]

Not saying the big ten is very good this year, and our schedule is pretty weak, but this is a dumb reason for why the conference sucks. Let me list some of the slow, plodder types who have come out of the big ten in recent years: Lee Evans, Santonio Holmes, Ted Ginn, Larry Johnson, AJ Hawk, Braylon Edwards, Plaxico Burress, those just off the top of my head. Also, Mario Manningham, Ray Small, Juice Williams, and Brandon Saine will all be joining those ranks soon. Michigan sucks because their coach hasn't come up with a new game plan in 10 years, Illinois sucks because they are young, Penn State sucks because they are becoming the Bengals of college football, I don't really know why Wisconsin sucks, but I'm pretty sure it's not because of speed since the teams they lost to are both in the big ten as well.

 

SEC homers, stfu already. Yeah, your conference is pretty good this year, but pretend like you actually watch the games and come up for a believable reason for it. WTF is this ###### about SEC speed? Do people in the South run all the time or something? I really doubt that because I have been to the south and you fuckers are FAT.

 

With how crazy this year is going, no one should be talking ###### about their team until the season is over. I have no idea how good OSU is this year, but we will be number 1 in the polls this week so I'm just going to try and enjoy that while it lasts. Talk to me in January and we can reflect on who the best team in the country actually is.

Did you read the part where I said team speed? Because you listed about 10 individual players who were never/rarely on the same team at the same time. Point being, I said team speed, and as much as I hate Florida, they thoroughly embarrassed Ohio St. last year in the National Title game and speed was clearly the reason. I was just saying there are playmakers at numerous positions for nearly every team in the conference, top to bottom. It's been that way for a few years, and now even bottom-dwellers like my Cats are starting to come around. I've said several times that LSU's main weakness was it's lack of explosiveness on offense, and that cost them today when they realized they couldn't simply run us over and had virtually no passing game. Their main weapon (Doucet) was out, and that attributed to a lot of the problems, because he's clearly better than anyone we have at DB, but just ask Michigan (or any team who's been rolled by South Florida this year), speed absolutely kills, and then SEC and Pac10 have more of it than any other conference in the country.

 

As for OSU, you guys will be number one in the polls by default as you said, and I think they're playing the best football at the moment and deserve to be there, but until they show me a little more, I'll withhold judgment on then just as you are. I still think Oklahoma is one of the better teams in football, and anyone who's sleeping on any of those perrenial powers with one loss is kidding themselves.

[gobuckeyes 0]

Did you read the part where I said team speed? Because you listed about 10 individual players who were never/rarely on the same team at the same time. Point being, I said team speed, and as much as I hate Florida, they thoroughly embarrassed Ohio St. last year in the National Title game and speed was clearly the reason. I was just saying there are playmakers at numerous positions for nearly every team in the conference, top to bottom. It's been that way for a few years, and now even bottom-dwellers like my Cats are starting to come around. I've said several times that LSU's main weakness was it's lack of explosiveness on offense, and that cost them today when they realized they couldn't simply run us over and had virtually no passing game. Their main weapon (Doucet) was out, and that attributed to a lot of the problems, because he's clearly better than anyone we have at DB, but just ask Michigan (or any team who's been rolled by South Florida this year), speed absolutely kills, and then SEC and Pac10 have more of it than any other conference in the country.

 

As for OSU, you guys will be number one in the polls by default as you said, and I think they're playing the best football at the moment and deserve to be there, but until they show me a little more, I'll withhold judgment on then just as you are. I still think Oklahoma is one of the better teams in football, and anyone who's sleeping on any of those perrenial powers with one loss is kidding themselves.

 

The speed that hurt us in the National Championship was at select positions, particularly DE, where UF happens to have 2 NFL caliber players. I don't think if you lined up Julian Peterson or Mathias Kiwanuka or anyone else who went to some "slow" northern school at the same positions it would have made any difference. Florida won last year because they were better coached, executed better, and had better football players than we did. If you lined the two teams up in a track meet I doubt it would have looked nearly as bad as the score of that game did.

 

Oh, and at this rate I pretty much expect us to lose next week. Oklahoma is pretty good, and LSU is still the most talented team in the country. See you after Christmas.

 

And if someone decides to take the time to compare combine numbers over the past few years I'd be willing to concede this point, but until then "SEC has more team speed" is an old wives tale and you guys are just making up stats.

[TheBlade 3]

Did you read the part where I said team speed? Because you listed about 10 individual players who were never/rarely on the same team at the same time. Point being, I said team speed, and as much as I hate Florida, they thoroughly embarrassed Ohio St. last year in the National Title game and speed was clearly the reason. I was just saying there are playmakers at numerous positions for nearly every team in the conference, top to bottom. It's been that way for a few years, and now even bottom-dwellers like my Cats are starting to come around. I've said several times that LSU's main weakness was it's lack of explosiveness on offense, and that cost them today when they realized they couldn't simply run us over and had virtually no passing game. Their main weapon (Doucet) was out, and that attributed to a lot of the problems, because he's clearly better than anyone we have at DB, but just ask Michigan (or any team who's been rolled by South Florida this year), speed absolutely kills, and then SEC and Pac10 have more of it than any other conference in the country.

 

And I still think schedule plays a very big part in this whole thing. Florida, in four straight weeks, played Tenn at home, Ole Miss on the road, Auburn at home, and LSU on the road. They've had a bye this week, now they have to travel again to KY, which as displayed tonight is going to be a tough game. Then they have Georgia and South Carolina. Look at that schedule....Tenn is a huge rivalry and grudge match every year. Ole Miss always plays UF tough at home, and usually beats us there. Auburn is a huge rivalry and grudge match. Then they traveled to Death Valley to face the #1 ranked team in the country. Georgia is another rivalry and grudge match. And SC is going to turn into a rivalry very quickly with Spurrier coaching the Gamecocks. It's hard to play all those tough games back-to-back.

 

And it's no wonder LSU struggled this week. They traveled to KY after a very hard fought game, which they very easily could've lost were not for two turnovers in a row in the fourth quarter by UF, and then had to go play another team thats playing very good football on their field. And if you watched most of the games, rankings be damned, you cannot discount the quality of football played by Auburn, Florida, LSU, or Kentucky.

[Me_2006 14]

The speed that hurt us in the National Championship was at select positions, particularly DE, where UF happens to have 2 NFL caliber players. I don't think if you lined up Julian Peterson or Mathias Kiwanuka or anyone else who went to some "slow" northern school at the same positions it would have made any difference. Florida won last year because they were better coached, executed better, and had better football players than we did. If you lined the two teams up in a track meet I doubt it would have looked nearly as bad as the score of that game did.

 

Oh, and at this rate I pretty much expect us to lose next week. Oklahoma is pretty good, and LSU is still the most talented team in the country. See you after Christmas.

I sure hope so, that means we won't be in complete basketball mode here and the football Cats will still be playing well.

 

 

also, can you guys do something about the vest/sweater thing Tressel wears?

[donhaas 18]

Oh yeah, the Big 10 did great last year against the SEC when it counted....UF (best in SEC) STOMPED Ohio State (best in Big 10).

 

Badgers have stomped two sec teams (Auburn and Arkansas) in their last two bowl games

 

HTH!!!

[jakeman24 0]

just a thought- youre basing your "strength of your conference" on subjective rankings...whos to say the people that put those top 25 together are right? look at michigan losing to app state..

 

I thought this was pretty interesting.

 

The SEC's out of conference record so far this year is 30-4. The only losses are to #11 Missouri, #21 Florida State, #5 South Florida and #2 California.

 

The Big 10 out of conference record is 30-7. Losses to BGU, FAU, Iowa State, Duke, Appy State, #9 Oregon and #11 Missouri.

 

Read into it what you will. I don't give a sh!t what you think.

[Me_2006 14]

I thought this was pretty interesting.

 

The SEC's out of conference record so far this year is 30-4. The only losses are to #11 Missouri, #21 Florida State, #5 South Florida and #2 California.

 

The Big 10 out of conference record is 30-7. Losses to BGU, FAU, Iowa State, Duke, Appy State, #9 Oregon and #11 Missouri.

 

Read into it what you will. I don't give a sh!t what you think.

Wow. I hadn't thought about that, really. Nice post.

[seadog54 20]

LSU LOSES!!!

 

WHERE ARE YOU NOW HENRYCHINASKI????

[Me_2006 14]

LSU LOSES!!!

 

WHERE ARE YOU NOW HENRYCHINASKI????

Is your life that sad?

 

Dude, I'm a UK fan and the last thing on my mind when they won today is what someone I'll never meet on a messageboard might be thinking, or what team they root for. He's from Louisiana from what I gather, so why on earth wouldn't he root for LSU? Do you think he's hiding from your almighty wrath or something? Seriously. Was he supposed to show up and post a thread about how bad he and all other LSU fans suck because they lost today? I don't get it.

[NASDAQ 0]

LSU LOSES!!!

 

WHERE ARE YOU NOW HENRYCHINASKI????

 

 

what a clown

 

hahahhahaha

 

LSU is still in the mix with Cal losing

 

SEC is so good

 

they are still right there

 

GEAUX TIGERS

[rollingrot 0]

me 2006-- you were part of the thread last saturday night where henry was bashing tebow and everyone else. I don't doubt the guy is a fan, but he showed absolutely no class last week in victory, and said he didn't have to because it was all about winning games. well, so much for that.

[seadog54 20]

Is your life that sad?

 

Dude, I'm a UK fan and the last thing on my mind when they won today is what someone I'll never meet on a messageboard might be thinking, or what team they root for. He's from Louisiana from what I gather, so why on earth wouldn't he root for LSU? Do you think he's hiding from your almighty wrath or something? Seriously. Was he supposed to show up and post a thread about how bad he and all other LSU fans suck because they lost today? I don't get it.

 

its because he makes a damn LSU post everytime they win and its annoying as hell. and he is annoying because his posts are full of crap and he talks like the world revolves around him.

[Me_2006 14]

me 2006-- you were part of the thread last saturday night where henry was bashing tebow and everyone else. I don't doubt the guy is a fan, but he showed absolutely no class last week in victory, and said he didn't have to because it was all about winning games. well, so much for that.

Fair enough. But even from an unbiased point of view (if anything, slightly more of a Florida guy if I had to pick) the Tebow love last week was rediculous. Even when LSU beat them, they seemed oblivious to the fact that Tebow played for a team that lost.

 

Either way, to pop up in giant red letters and call someone out when they haven't made a post like all day is pretty lame.

[Me_2006 14]

its because he makes a damn LSU post everytime they win and its annoying as hell. and he is annoying because his posts are full of crap and he talks like the world revolves around him.

Ha, I'll give you the first part I guess. I don't know about the posts being full of crap though, he brings good info from what I've seen and the only time he seems to get vicious is when people call him out with goofy opinions or no facts/logic to back up what they're saying.

 

Either way, giant red font? C'mon. You could have at least made it purple in honor of Ol' Henry.

[rollingrot 0]

Me- I hear you -- but that's what happens when you tout your team is going to run the table and then lose to a basketball school (I know you are a UK fan, so just kidding with you. I'm happy for you guys). And to the other LSU fans who claim you are still in it because Cal lost. That's true. But, so is everyone else. And your receivers still can't get open or catch the ball when they do. Sorry.

[Me_2006 14]

Me- I hear you -- but that's what happens when you tout your team is going to run the table and then lose to a basketball school (I know you are a UK fan, so just kidding with you. I'm happy for you guys). And to the other LSU fans who claim you are still in it because Cal lost. That's true. But, so is everyone else. And your receivers still can't get open or catch the ball when they do. Sorry.

 

Definitely. I guess my original point was more about the absurdity of even calling someone out about something like that. As often as I post here, Henry C being an LSU fan was the LAST thing on my mind today. So I guess it struck me as odd that someone would care enough about a guy they'll never meet to call them out over a college football game. Oh well, it's got nothing to do with me, so I'll stay out of it.

 

By the way, you aren't joking about us being a basketball school, so no offense at all taken there. I've been staying with family in Lexington since Friday night, and was at Big Blue Madness last night. Over 23,000 people in the middle of the night to watch a 10 minute scrimmage. I was at the game today too, and the excitement was definitely higher at the game, but considering the circumstances, it's amazing that the two are even comparable.

 

On a football note, I won't gloat this week, as I said several times we'd beat LSU (they're just not that explosive, didn't scare me much) but I think we'll be thoroughly handled by Florida and their speed and running QB. We had no answer for Flynn scrambling today, and I expect Tebow to work us over. I hope I'm wrong, and we have a shot because their defense is very soft, so a healthy Little could be big (like what I did there?), I just think they'll spread us out and we won't have an answer for the playmakers.

[MikeyFL 0]

Badgers have stomped two sec teams (Auburn and Arkansas) in their last two bowl games

 

HTH!!!

 

As a student of history, I'm sure you realize that college football changes tremendously from year to year. We're talking about the weakness of the Big 10 this year.

 

However, I must give props to Wisconsin for pulling away from the Citadel after being tied at halftime. Nothing helps the prestige of a conference like going 1-1 against those traditional Southern Conference powers.

[rossbud 0]

Blah, Blah, Blah, BIG 10 WEAK....

 

Maybe so, maybe not..... But , you can't tell me the Big 10 schools beat up on each other.....

 

One thing for the BUCKEYS... They have TAKEN CARE OF BUSINESS.... so far this year,,,,

 

And like most every year since Tressel has been the coach... The Bucks never get credit or respect for taking care of business..

 

Oh, we did lose to UF last year.. But , come on, that was last year.... This is college football, teams change year to year....

 

If LSU is so talented, then they should have taken care of business, Ohio State was the MORE talented team last year in the national game, but they didn't take care of business.... USC was suppose to have SOOOO much talent that the second string could play with anyone... well, that isn't the case either....

 

Face it all you BUCKEYE haters, as long as OSU takes care of business week in and week out... WE WILL be back in the FINAL game of the year!!! Not because we have all this speed, or play in a weak confernece, or most of all HAVE THE MOST TALENT, it will be based on TAKIN CARE OF BUSINESS.....

 

So when you see OSU at the top this week, don't be saying , weak conference, weak schedule, or this other team is more talented, or this team just came off of a tough game and went on the road.... all just because you didn't take care of business....

 

JUST KNOW THAT OHIO STATE WILL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS...

[StrikeForce 11]

Badgers have stomped two sec teams (Auburn and Arkansas) in their last two bowl games

 

Stomped?

 

2006 Capital One Bowl - Wisconsin beats Arkansas, 17-14

2005 Capital One Bowl - Wisconsin beats Auburn, 24-10

 

Those could hardly be called "stomping".

 

Why not go back 3 years? Oh yeah, that's because UGA "stomped" Wisconsin 24-21 in the Citrus bowl that year (2004).

 

Or 4 years? That's right. Auburn "stomped" Wisconsin 28-14 in the Music City Bowl that year (2003).

 

And FYI, regarding the 2005 Capital One Bowl - #7 Auburn got SCREWED that year by having to go to that lousy bowl in the first place. They SHOULD have gone to the Fiesta Bowl (BCS) that year. But #8 ND got selected (despite a worse ranking), just because they're ND. So a #7 Auburn team doesn't get up for the prospect of playing against #21 Wisconsin, after just getting snubbed by the BCS...YET AGAIN! Oooooh, shocker! ND went on to lose its 8th straight bowl game that year.....good choice, BCS!

 

Nonetheless, Florida beat Ohio State 41-14, now THAT is a stomping!

 

HTH

[MikeyFL 0]

Blah, Blah, Blah, BIG 10 WEAK....

 

Maybe so, maybe not..... But , you can't tell me the Big 10 schools beat up on each other.....

 

Oh, I agree... just as the MAC schools beat up on each other, and the Southern conference schools, and every other team that doesn't field cheerleaders. The difference is that you won't find a team as utterly atrocious as Northwestern or Minnesota playing in the SEC or PAC 10 this year.

 

When Northwestern loses to Duke (DUKE, for God's sake!) and then turns around to beat Michigan St., it makes you wonder about the strength of the Big 10.

 

When Iowa loses to bottom-feeder Iowa St. and then beats those supposedly resurgent Illinois Illini, it makes you wonder about the strength of the Big 10.

 

When Michigan loses to App. St. and then wins their first three games in the conference, it makes you wonder about the strength of the Big 10.

 

When Minnesota loses to Florida Atlantic, it just makes people laugh. Florida Atlantic wasn't even in Division 1-A a couple of years ago.

 

When Ohio St. actually plays an out-of-conference team ranked in the top 75, hell will freeze over.

 

Sure, the Big 10 will be beating up on each other as soon as they complete their annual tune-ups against the MAC. But given the strength of the conference overall, that's hardly something to brag about. It's like getting beaten up by your 8 year old sister.

 

One thing for the BUCKEYS... They have TAKEN CARE OF BUSINESS.... so far this year,,,,

 

And like most every year since Tressel has been the coach... The Bucks never get credit or respect for taking care of business..

 

God, I would hope so. They only have a 10 to 1 edge in financial and physical resources over the out-of-conference teams they schedule.

 

Oh, we did lose to UF last year.. But , come on, that was last year.... This is college football, teams change year to year....

 

And name more than one Big 10 team that would have a legitimate shot at beating Florida THIS year.

 

If LSU is so talented, then they should have taken care of business, Ohio State was the MORE talented team last year in the national game, but they didn't take care of business.... USC was suppose to have SOOOO much talent that the second string could play with anyone... well, that isn't the case either....

 

Actually, your comment gets my interest because I agree... Ohio State was much more talented than Florida last year. I truly believe some players on OSU's team tanked that game on purpose. There were too many fishy things going on...

 

But your comment about LSU gets back to the original point. If Ohio State had to play teams like Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and yes, Kentucky (this year) week-in and week-out, there is absolutely no way they would end the season undefeated. It's just impossible. Kentucky had a ton of talent, a future first-round draft pick at QB, and a motivated home crowd. It was a snake-pit game if there ever was one, and Ohio State just won't face that from any team other than possibly Michigan.

 

Face it all you BUCKEYE haters, as long as OSU takes care of business week in and week out... WE WILL be back in the FINAL game of the year!!! Not because we have all this speed, or play in a weak confernece, or most of all HAVE THE MOST TALENT, it will be based on TAKIN CARE OF BUSINESS.....

 

I'm not a "buckeye hater." Actually, I quite like the Ohio State campus and have several friends who go there. The fact is that no legitimate athletic league should crown a "national" champion unless that team has proven its mettle by defeating the top contenders. I pray, for your sake, that Ohio State doesn't make the national championship game and end up having to play a team like South Florida. It could be quite embarassing.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Give me a break. The Big 10 is pothetic at best. Ohio State's signature win will be a #16 ranked Illinois team that just got their a$$ kicked by Iowa!

 

As far as South Florida is concerned, I like what James Carville had to say out it. "Mississippi State, perhaps the worst team in the SEC, beat Auburn at home. South Florida, the best team in the Big East, beat Auburn at home. So the best team in the Big East is just as good as the worst team in the SEC. I'm impressed."

 

Bottom line is, the SEC teams beat the SH!t out of eachother every week. LSU alone has to play 5 teams ranked in the top 25 not including Alabama, Arkansas and that Mississippi State team which they beat 45-0.

 

The only other conference that is at the same competitive level is the PAC-10. I will be shocked if Cal gets through unbeaten.

 

OSU will still have to play Michigan (who will be ranked again) and Wisconsin (who is down right now as their defense is for some reason so much worse than last year).

Got their ass kicked by Iowa? They lost by 4 and missed on a last 2nd INT by the 2nd string QB. They are a young building team...but that would not be OSU's signature win anyway.

 

SF also beat WVU and may run the table.

But you talk about Auburn...funny, Florida could not beat them at home...so how is it that bad of a win.

 

Yes, the mighty Pac 10...with Cal losing to an unranked team, USC losing to Stanford? Really, you want to talk about SF beating a team that lost to Miss. State (then talk about the SEC beating each other up, double standard much)...but you forget about USC getting beat by a terrible standford team?

 

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Cal lost today too.

 

and yes, the Big 10 is incredibly weak. They can win against smaller, plodder-type teams that they can simply overpower, but their lack of team speed and big-time playmakers keep them a small notch below the elite teams in the other power conferences.

 

Ask Arkansas and Auburn how fast Wisconsin has been.

Ask Tennessee how fast Penn State was.

The big 10 was 2-1 vs the SEC last season in bowl games.

This myth of this team speed and lacking big time playmakers is crap. Unless you think guys like Ted Ginn, A. Gonzalez, Mike Hart...and so on are not big time play makers.

Ask Darren McFadden how fast Ike (from Wisconsin is) as he ran him down from behind.

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As a Florida alum, I must say that the SEC is the hardest conference in the country, and has been for the last 2-3 years. Any team in the SEC can beat any other team on any given day, especially at home. The SEC schedule is absolutely brutal on any team trying to compete for the national championship. There are multiple rivalry games each and every year. And then you have the SEC Championship game. Any team that makes it through that schedule and is still in the fight for the national championship deserves a shot at it.

 

Now...don't get my defense of the Big 10 wrong. I think the SEC is the best conference. And with UK improving did they get better? Maybe...though other teams like Auburn are down this year.

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Oh yeah, the Big 10 did great last year against the SEC when it counted....UF (best in SEC) STOMPED Ohio State (best in Big 10).

 

BTW, South Florida's apparently no slouch.

 

You mean like PSU beating UF.

Wisconsin beating Arkansas?

 

Yes, UF beat up OSU...it happened. You think it would happen just that way if those 2 teams played 10 times? I don't. I don't think Ginn gets hurt each time. I don't think OSU plays that defense the whole time.

 

They did not lose because of speed. They lost because they were outcoached in every phase of the game.

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Did you read the part where I said team speed? Because you listed about 10 individual players who were never/rarely on the same team at the same time. Point being, I said team speed, and as much as I hate Florida, they thoroughly embarrassed Ohio St. last year in the National Title game and speed was clearly the reason. I was just saying there are playmakers at numerous positions for nearly every team in the conference, top to bottom. It's been that way for a few years, and now even bottom-dwellers like my Cats are starting to come around. I've said several times that LSU's main weakness was it's lack of explosiveness on offense, and that cost them today when they realized they couldn't simply run us over and had virtually no passing game. Their main weapon (Doucet) was out, and that attributed to a lot of the problems, because he's clearly better than anyone we have at DB, but just ask Michigan (or any team who's been rolled by South Florida this year), speed absolutely kills, and then SEC and Pac10 have more of it than any other conference in the country.

 

As for OSU, you guys will be number one in the polls by default as you said, and I think they're playing the best football at the moment and deserve to be there, but until they show me a little more, I'll withhold judgment on then just as you are. I still think Oklahoma is one of the better teams in football, and anyone who's sleeping on any of those perrenial powers with one loss is kidding themselves.

 

I disagree that speed was the major reason that UF won that game.