Freakcat 0 Posted December 21, 2007 Last weekend I tied with another guy in the semi-finals. This is my first (and last) year in this league, we don't use decimals so if you get 98 yards you get 9 points. Anyways, we tied and have no tiebreaker in place for the playoffs, however do in the regular season. That tie break is, total points, then head to head, then flip a coin. I actually had more regular season points, more playoff points, my bench in the playoff scored more, the only thing he did was score more tds than me in this game. So they did a poll and off course they all picked total td's to win. This is the commish's twin brother I was playing. So anyways I lost and now I actually owe money for my transactions. If you were in my shoes would you man up and just pay the fees, or say fvck you cuz I just wasted a whole season playing and being in first to loss because of a freaking tie? Honestly I will pay, I just want your opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersquids 3 Posted December 21, 2007 I would be livid if I were you and there is no way in hell I would pay more money. If you do not have a playoff tiebreaker, you default to the regular season tiebreaker. There is no other way to do it. If you had a poll before the playoffs began, that's one thing, but after the games have ended. I would make a thoughtful, logical, straightforward post on the league board without resorting to profanity. This is making my blood boil just thinking about how idiotic some commish's are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaurg 0 Posted December 21, 2007 If you do not have a playoff tiebreaker, you default to the regular season tiebreaker. There is no other way to do it. So they should flip a coin? It's retarded they didn't have tiebreak rules set for the playoffs. Man. Really sucky situation there. Commish and the entire league not doing their job by reviewing rules before the season started. For what it's worth, most TDs is a pretty standard "default" playoff tiebreaker. My league uses these tiebreak rules for playoff games: 1. Most total TD's by the starters 2. Most total yards (passing, rushing, receiving combined) by the starters 3. Most total TD's by the bench 4. Most total yards by the bench 5. Each owner must drink 6 beers then compete in a 50-yard sack race. And Yahoo's http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/football/...ootball-82.html In the event that a playoff game ends in a tie, the deadlock is broken using the following system: 1. Most touchdowns scored by entire starting roster. 2. Most fantasy points by starting quarterback(s). 3. Most fantasy points by starting defensive team(s). 4. Most fantasy points by starting defensive player(s). 5. Most fantasy points by starting defensive back(s). 6. Most fantasy points by starting defensive linemen. 7. Most fantasy points by starting wide receiver(s). 8. Most fantasy points by starting running back(s). 9. Most fantasy points by starting tight end(s). 10. Most fantasy points by starting kicker(s). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B_A_Baracus 0 Posted December 21, 2007 This is not something that should ever be decided by poll after the fact, that is completely ridiculous. I'm with squids on this, don't pay or play with those those jerks again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersquids 3 Posted December 21, 2007 So they should flip a coin? No. The tiebreakers for the regular season are...total points, head to head, coin flip. So total points would be the first tie breaker and he would have won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaurg 0 Posted December 21, 2007 No. The tiebreakers for the regular season are...total points, head to head, coin flip. So total points would be the first tie breaker and he would have won. So in a sense, just disregard their playoff game and whoever had the higher regular season finish advances? Dumb. I don't like it. IMHO the Commish should have taken control here and implemented decimal scoring for this one playoff game to break the tie. Then put it up for voting on how to handle playoff ties in the future. Bad Commish, Bad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersquids 3 Posted December 21, 2007 So in a sense, just disregard their playoff game and whoever had the higher regular season finish advances? Dumb. I don't like it. Huh? I think I understand what you're getting at, but even if you go by decimal scoring, you're still making up a new tiebreaker AFTER THE FACT. The whole point is you have nothing else to go on but the regular season tiebreaker. We almost had a tie in our playoffs and I'm commish. I thought about it and there was absolutely no reasonable way to do anything other than take our existing tiebreakers (we have no specific playoff tiebreaker). To make up a poll just makes it worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaurg 0 Posted December 21, 2007 Huh? I think I understand what you're getting at, but even if you go by decimal scoring, you're still making up a new tiebreaker AFTER THE FACT. The whole point is you have nothing else to go on but the regular season tiebreaker. We almost had a tie in our playoffs and I'm commish. I thought about it and there was absolutely no reasonable way to do anything other than take our existing tiebreakers (we have no specific playoff tiebreaker). To make up a poll just makes it worse. I didn't suggest doing a poll though. In this situation, it's the commish's job to step in and make the RIGHT decision. Decimal scoring would give the win to the team who scored the most. It's fair. Either way, if I were the OP I'd be pissed at the Commish and myself for not realizing there wasn't a rule in place. Especially in a $$ league! Wow. How much do you owe for transactions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersquids 3 Posted December 21, 2007 I didn't suggest doing a poll though. In this situation, it's the commish's job to step in and make the RIGHT decision. Decimal scoring would give the win to the team who scored the most. It's fair. Either way, if I were the OP I'd be pissed at the Commish and myself for not realizing there wasn't a rule in place. Especially in a $$ league! Wow. How much do you owe for transactions? We can agree to disagree on the decimal scoring....but we both agree to make a poll and a random tiebreaker after the fact is just inexcuseable. I can't tell you how livid I am. This pisses me off!!!! This must not be a high money league...if this happened in my work league, I wouldn't be nearly as upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urban1 0 Posted December 21, 2007 Shitty deal. Youre in a bad situation. You probably got wronged but not having rules set out sucks. Id say you should use regular season rules for the playoffs. Either way, whatever you do, the group and especially the brothers will call you a douche. Pay the transaction fees. Soak some paper bills is pi$$ or jizz on them and dry them out and send them to him. Find something clever to do and end it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freakcat 0 Posted December 21, 2007 Shitty deal. Youre in a bad situation. You probably got wronged but not having rules set out sucks. Id say you should use regular season rules for the playoffs. Either way, whatever you do, the group and especially the brothers will call you a douche. Pay the transaction fees. Soak some paper bills is pi$$ or jizz on them and dry them out and send them to him. Find something clever to do and end it. LOL - Jizz on them! That's hilarious and a serious option haha. Thanks everyone for their thoughts on this. In my response after it happened I just told them I didn't agree but good luck to the dudes still in it. I have decided to not pay and the commish can soak up my funds. It's not a lot, approx $50 bucks owed, as we have weekly winnings and since I won many weeks that brought my transaction fees down a lot. I appreciate the feedback! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huskerinct 1 Posted December 21, 2007 You got hosed, man. Fock those guys, don't pay, get your entry fee back. They can't change change mid-stream, if no playoff tie breakers are in place, then logically, you gotta fall back to the regular season tie breakers. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 0 Posted December 21, 2007 No. The tiebreakers for the regular season are...total points, head to head, coin flip. So total points would be the first tie breaker and he would have won. Those tie beakers seem like tie braekers for a playoff spot, not for a game. Obviously the HtH and points would still make it a tie. There is no regular season tiebreaker in place. The only "fair" solution is: - higher seed advances - both teams advance and break the tie next week and the "winner" goes against the other team. How does a league not have a tie breaker for a playoff game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berven 0 Posted December 21, 2007 I think everybody bears a little responsibility here, since anybody could have flagged this gap in the league rules, but nobody did. I would break the tie by replaying with a tiebreaker in place--if possible--or use some other game of skill as a tiebreaker. A salary cap game is one possibility. I don't like the coin flip, and the regular season tiebreakers seem unsuitable for deciding a single game. It's a shame when people have fun and compete hard all season only to have things disintegrate at the end. That's why, despite imperfections, I prefer to use the standard rules of Sportsline, Yahoo, or some other host. They have rules already in place for dealing with odd situations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted December 21, 2007 The only "fair" solution is: - both teams advance and break the tie next week and the "winner" goes against the other team. That approach is unfair to the other team who advanced normally. The fair thing is to use decimal scoring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedeye 0 Posted December 21, 2007 I think we need to know one thing first...was this the first or second playoff game for your league? If it was the first, then falling back on the regular season tiebreakers does no good. However, if it was the 2nd playoff game, then you CAN (and should) fall back on the regular season system. Add the total score combined from both playoff games and declare a winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freakcat 0 Posted December 21, 2007 I think we need to know one thing first...was this the first or second playoff game for your league? If it was the first, then falling back on the regular season tiebreakers does no good. However, if it was the 2nd playoff game, then you CAN (and should) fall back on the regular season system. Add the total score combined from both playoff games and declare a winner. This was the 2nd game, I had a first round bye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 0 Posted December 21, 2007 This was the 2nd game, I had a first round bye. you should have at least gotten a coin flip, making up new rules in week 16 is obviously going to piss people off, like you....also if you had a first round bye there was probably at least a little bias in the voting from other owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites