Bible Paradox I've always wondered about

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1st, jesus spoke mostly aramaic, though he knew greek, and there is no aramaic bible to translate. 2nd, nothing about the verse is indicative of the way jesus spoke about himself, and it's highly likely he never even spoke these words. 3rd, it's not likely john the disciple, nor even a john, wrote the book of john, but instead a sect of early christians. there are some similarities to gospel of thomas that puts these writings in a similar time frame. it's possible that the verse was written for one particular circumstance involving 2 jewish sects within the roman empire and may be of limited use to us today. "me" in this verse means "my teaching and example" not "my unique godhood."

 

this verse, and the stance you take, are precisely the reason interfaith dialogues break down. christians build walls that separate.

 

Or they build pyres to incinerate.

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K-God gave man free will, correct? So how come at the last supper Jesus says 'tonight one of you will betray me". Doesn't that mean that Judas's betrayal was preordained, that Judas didn't have the free will if it's preordained, right? And didn't Judas end up in hell, if he didn't have a choice that seems pretty harsh.

Nothing preordained at all. He knew!

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Predestination is not preordination. Predestination is contingent upon the "foreknowledge" of God as described in Romans 8:29-30.

 

God sees into the infinite future, and he knows before any human is born whether they will love him and serve him, or hate him and serve themselves or false gods instead. God foreknows who will reject him or who will not reject him before they are born, and he knew this before he created the first man and woman thousands of years ago.

 

People who are saved by the blood of Christ are predestined by God unto salvation, they are pre-justified, and pre-glorified according to Romans 8:29-30. God uses his foreknowledge into the future to make sure the Holy Spirit convicts the hearts of all men that there is a living God, but he also knows who will reject the Holy Spirit, and who will not reject the Holy Spirit, and he loves us so much, that he sends the Holy Spirit to wicked men who God knows will reject him, even though God knows beforehand they will reject him. God is just, but mankind is so wicked in their lust for sin, that they refuse to love and serve God as it says in Romans 1:18-32, so God gives those wicked people over to a reprobate mind and heart. God never forces himself on somebody, he wants us to give our love to him of our own free will, and he knows beforehand who will and will not love him, but he still gives those people a chance to change and love him, even knowing they won't before they die. Now that is real love. Love is not forced or bought and sold, it is freely given.

God is omnipotent, ANYONE who "thinks" they know ANYTHING about God is an idiot.

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I know he cameo's on "Family Guy"

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I know he cameo's on "Family Guy"

 

He use to be a regular on South Park.

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See.....we know plenty about God!