Derek Anderson

[pee-diddy 27]

Was listening to Fox sports radio this morning (7:30AM West Coast time) and they were mentioning how Derek Anderson might not even start at the beginning of the season due to his injury, and how it'd be a convenient time to transition over to Brady Quinn. Last I heard, it was a concussion and he'd be ready to roll week 1. What gives? Is there a different injury?

 

Apologies for the speculation/rumor. But I have 2 drafts coming up and want to know if anyone's heard anything further.

[PackYourNut 47]

1. Why would they pay him millions and then have Quinn start?

2. Have you seen Quinn play? He looks lost and can't complete a pass further then 7 yards.

[pee-diddy 27]

I completely agree. The comment on radio was more about Anderson's health. Besides the concussion, what's the issue? Hate to bring it up with no link (radio). Just wondering if others have heard/seen anything.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I go on record as saying that Quinn is starting by mid season. I'm not saying he's better, I simply saying that Anderson is way overrated in my book. In fact, I'll put it down in writing:

 

Brady

Brees

Manning

Romo

Roethlisberger

McNabb

Palmer

Cutler

Garrard

Schaub

Hasselbeck

Anderson

Rogers

 

That's roughly where I have him now off the top of my head.

[Gepetto 1,358]

1. Why would they pay him millions and then have Quinn start?

2. Have you seen Quinn play? He looks lost and can't complete a pass further then 7 yards.

 

1. correct

2. correct again

[MSin 0]

1. Why would they pay him millions and then have Quinn start?

 

This may be my least favorite argument ever.

 

How many games did Dominic Rhodes start last year?

[coyote-kid 0]

At the moment, Quinn sucks rotten eggs.

Who in there right mind would start him unless they are desperate.

Maybe next year he might get a chance again

[pee-diddy 27]

Yeah, Alex Smith is getting paid millions to

 

So it sounds like the radio talk was just hogwash? It doesn't seem like anyone has much (if any) injury info. about Anderson. Again, the radio discussion wasn't about the Browns wanting to sit Anderson to play Quinn. It was about Anderson being hurt and creating a convenient opportunity for CLE to start Quinn at QB now.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I wouldn't buy too much into the discussion of his injury status, I'm sure he's fine and will start come week one. However, beware Brady having anything resembling a good game this weekend, because if Anderson struggles early on in the year and Cleveland falters in the win column, the Quinn era will begin. Keep in mind that Anderson couldn't beat out Charlie Frye last year. Frye just got yanked for poor performance in 1 game...what happens if Anderson throws up a few stinkers??? They play 4 out of their first 7 on the road, have very hard matchups vs playoff teams COWBOYS, STEELERS, GIANTS, REDSKINS and JAGUARS. I honestly am figuring ALL of those to be losses. And the only two "easy" games are divisional games in Baltimore and in Cincinnati. My prediction is that the Quinn era starts sometime between the first week of October and the first week of November.

 

Week Date Game Time (EST)

1 Sep 07 DAL @ CLE 4:15 PM LOSS

2 Sep 14 PIT @ CLE 8:15 PM LOSS

3 Sep 21 CLE @ BAL 4:15 PM ???

4 Sep 28 CLE @ CIN 1:00 PM ???

5 Bye

6 Oct 13 NYG @ CLE 8:30 PM LOSS

7 Oct 19 CLE @ WAS 4:15 PM LOSS

8 Oct 26 CLE @ JAC 4:05 PM LOSS

[Gepetto 1,358]

Yeah, Alex Smith is getting paid millions to

 

So it sounds like the radio talk was just hogwash? It doesn't seem like anyone has much (if any) injury info. about Anderson. Again, the radio discussion wasn't about the Browns wanting to sit Anderson to play Quinn. It was about Anderson being hurt and creating a convenient opportunity for CLE to start Quinn at QB now.

 

convenient? Wow, those guys talking on the radio are focking idiots. Quinn is one of the most inaccurate passers I've ever seen. And Derek Anderson stepped up bigtime, makes all the throws and while he's not very accurate (not as bad as Quinn) DA played great in several games at the NFL level in just one season starting. Don't forget DA didn't even start the first game and in a couple of the last games of the season it was extremely windy. Other than that he played big.

[Raider 84 29]

Stallworth and Lewis said that Anderson might be the next Peyton. Just a quote I read.

[murf74 461]

Give me a break. This is like making a thread about "Sorgi in the mix" or "Cassel in the mix" or "Frye in the mix" because IF they are not ready on day one the backup will play.

 

News flash, this is the case for every starting NFL QB. IF they are hurt....gasp....their backup will be in the mix week 1.

 

 

thread starter

 

The talk of Brady Quinn starting over Anderson reminds me of the panic on FFtoday that Chapman was going to be starting ahead of Ronnie Brown. Hasn't anyone seen Quinn play in the NFL? Captain checkdown looks down field for 1 second and checks to a RB or TE or a WR screen. He is not ready for starting in the NFL 2008. Period

[pee-diddy 27]

Nah, I disagree murf. Quinn replacing Anderson is much more realistic than the Sorgi talk. I prefaced this thread with the radio speculation and it was solely based on the hosts discussing that Anderson was injured. Not that DA deserved to be yanked as the starter or that Quinn was making big bucks so he should be the starter. So my initial question was whether or not someone knew of a different injury to DA than the concussion-- which should not keep him out of week 1. I haven't even drafted yet, so I'm not an Anderson owner. Hence, no panic button for me.

[murf74 461]

Nah, I disagree murf. Quinn replacing Anderson is much more realistic than the Sorgi talk. I prefaced this thread with the radio speculation and it was solely based on the hosts discussing that Anderson was injured. Not that DA deserved to be yanked as the starter or that Quinn was making big bucks so he should be the starter. So my initial question was whether or not someone knew of a different injury to DA than the concussion-- which should not keep him out of week 1. I haven't even drafted yet, so I'm not an Anderson owner. Hence, no panic button for me.

 

Why is Quinn replacing Anderson much more realistic? What has Quinn done in the NFL to even come close to being capable of overthrowing a pro-bowl QB in Anderson? Mind you there hasn't even been a snap taken yet in the regular season.

 

From the Plain Dealer Quinn has thrown a grand total of 106 passes as a pro -- eight in the regular season, the rest in preseason. He never even played in the first half of preseason games until this season. Last year, when he played only in the second half (that still bugs me!), he rarely faced a strong rush or guys who were near the top of the depth chart. The pro game in the regular season is fast, tough and unforgiving, and Quinn needs to experience it. Or put it another way: Does it make any sense that third-stringer Ken Dorsey has thrown more passes (59) than Quinn (53) thus far? That same article goes on to talk about Captain Checkdown and his short passes and lack of ability to sit in the pocket, read and pass deep. http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index...._must_keep.html

 

Again I compare this to the Chapman talk last year being the starter over Ronnie Brown (and many on here called him a better player)

[jedeye 0]

I've been playing close attention to this situation both as an Anderson owner and a Browns fan. I've watched the preseason games and been to numerous practices. Take it from me, the only way Quinn replaces Anderson is by way of injury. Quinn is not ready. He seems to get flustered rather easily. I like how murf74 referred to him as "Captain Checkdown." Its absolutely true. Quinn seems afraid to go down the field. Most of his passes go for 5 yards at best.

 

Now, it pains me to say these things as a Browns fan because I truly want Quinn to step up and be the QB they drafted him to be, but he's just not there yet.

[pee-diddy 27]

I agree with both of the above posts in the sense that Quinn is not ready, nor is he a better QB at this stage (and possibly never will be). Nor does he deserve to be the starter on that team. My point was that people speculating about Sorgi is different than Quinn because Quinn, in my opinion, comes into the league with more of a "golden boy" or "franchise savior" QB appeal if-you-will (fair or unfair to him or that franchise). Plus he was highly touted and, let's face it, is making a lot of money to ride the pine. So Quinn becoming the starter during the year, or rumors of him starting IF Anderson was, in fact, injured is more believable than Sorgi starting. No offense, but maybe Murf misunderstood the premise or tone of the post. It was not to start rumors of Quinn taking over for DA. It was more about DA being injured, and if so how and to what extent (because all I had heard about was a concussion).

 

Obviously could have been a case of radio hosts talking out of their asses as they often do.

[murf74 461]

I agree with both of the above posts in the sense that Quinn is not ready, nor is he a better QB at this stage (and possibly never will be). Nor does he deserve to be the starter on that team. My point was that people speculating about Sorgi is different than Quinn because Quinn, in my opinion, comes into the league with more of a "golden boy" or "franchise savior" QB appeal if-you-will (fair or unfair to him or that franchise). Plus he was highly touted and, let's face it, is making a lot of money to ride the pine. So Quinn becoming the starter during the year, or rumors of him starting IF Anderson was, in fact, injured is more believable than Sorgi starting. No offense, but maybe Murf misunderstood the premise or tone of the post. It was not to start rumors of Quinn taking over for DA. It was more about DA being injured, and if so how and to what extent (because all I had heard about was a concussion).

 

Obviously could have been a case of radio hosts talking out of their asses as they often do.

 

I see your original intent. I would have been surprised to see DA play this week since most starting QBs around the league will only get one or 2 series, no sense risking him. All indications I heard was that it was a mild concussion. He will have rested it almost a full 3 weeks which is pretty safe for concussions.

[mr.shitty 0]

IMO, the only way Quinn gets on the field this year is if Anderson is injured.