jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 I am looking at the whole squad, not just your #1 and #2. I believe you need to have at least 3 solid guys in this rotation plus a decent 4th. I know we only start 1 RB, but I am sure most of you will be starting a #2 rb over your #5 Wr in the two flex options. I am also betting that 1/2 of the league goes with a 3rb/3wr starting lineup versus 2 running backs and 4 wr's. LETS GET IT ON - IF YOU B!TCH - I DON"T GIVE A FOCK. IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHERE I RANK YOU - I DON"T GIVE A FOCK 12th is the worst running back corps 1st is the best NOTE: This was very very hard to rank 1 through 12. So my rankings may just be backasswards. 12 - LBH Kevin Smith Beanie Wells Leon Washington Shonn Green Michael Bush Jocstrap's take - this ain't gunna gettr dun. While I love Kevin Smith this year, where the hell are the rest of your starters? Green and Washington are going to eat away at each other. R U going to gamble on Washington's 5-8 carries per game and hopes he hits the home run? I could actually see shonn green taking the starting job mid season - I do like this rookie much more than the masses. Beanie better pick up the blocking scheme for ol man Warner + Hightower did actually put up some numbers. 11 - Big Blue 06 DeAngelo Williams Thomas Jones Earnest Graham Jerome Harrison Jocstrap's take - You were gifted DeAngelo Williams who I think will still be a top 3 producing RB the entire year. He could very well be our current LT2 that dominated for a few years in FF. Hell he might even by #1 again this year. But what the fock is the rest of that RB corps? I know you committed to Wr's, but YIKES. Thomas Jones is going to lose a ton of carries this year to Washington and Greene. You will feel like what I suffered through last year by going WR strong. A freakin' RB graveyard for your roster. You should almost be #12. Maybe you should trade away Thomas Jones to LBH and let him deal with that 3 headed monster. I see a RB for a WR trade coming early in the season 4 U! 10 -Tarheel Boy Brandon Jacobs Ryan Grant Chester Taylor Justin Fargas Ladell Betts Kenny Watson Jocstrap's take - Well, at least you have two starters. I love BJ's - HONEY IT"S BEEN A FOCKING YEAR DAMMIT:) Ok, seriously I don't care if the guy has injury questions. He's a focking td monster and that's fine by me. I love watching BJ run over people. Ryan Grant might end up outscoring him by years end though. I like your top 2, but then the bottom falls out. Taylor will have some decent games, but will you have confidence putting him in the lineup over your #4 WR? One week you win the crap shoot, the next week you lose. The rest just flat out are begging for their starters to get hurt. #9 Gepetto AD McFadden Felix Jones McGahee AD - no need to even explain. I think this offense will be better than last year. Harvin will surely help in the 1st down department and to help take some huge chunks of field in the process. I really hope Sage wins the starting job. He'll at least throw a better ball than Tarvarius. I like Mcfadden more this year than last. I can see 1100 yards with 8ish td's. Playing Denver and KC 4x's also helps his cause. Felix Jones has a chance if he can stay on the field - 800-900 yards and 7 td's is upside. McGahee could hit the 1000 yard and 9 td mark if you're lucky. But then again, that offense might not even score 10td's this year. You sure don't have many options at the flex position from this crew though. No depth is the killer here. 3 out of your 4 are in rbbc messes. #8 - KUTULU Portis MBIII Fred Jackson Tashard Choice Ray Rice Rashad Jennings Andre Brown TJ Duckett Mike Goodson Mewelde Moore Portis is still a stud. Slowing down, perhaps, but still a lock for 1300 yards and 11-13 td's. Plus the addition of Haynesworth on defense should give the offense more opportunities to see the ball. Now if they can only get their two 2nd round WR picks of last year to help out Moss and Cooley, then this team could actually put up some points. MBIII is a gold mine when in the game. I think he makes or breaks your RB corps depending on how many weeks he stays healthy. 1500+ total yards to go with 15+ td's is the high end, but still reachable. Fred Jackson will be the many 4 weeks, you will know by then if he's earned enough respect to take away Lynch's carries. The only reason you are ranked ahead of at least 2 of the teams above is b/c of Portis and MBIII and the entire WW of RB's. Surely one of those guys will be a starter by week 6. 10 count them 10 on your current roster!!!!!!!!!! #7 - Singman Gore Lynch Lewis Julius Jones Jonathon Stewart Le'ron McClain Jocstrap's Take - Gore could be huge. 1500 total yards and 10+ td's is definitely a possibility. His receptions make him very valuable. Lynch, should get every opportunity, but won't start helping you until week 5 (takes 2 games just to get back to real game speed after the suspension). I do believe Buffalo will have more offensive td's this year with TO helping the offense move the ball. Lewis just blows. Julius Jones, Stewart, and McClain could all step up for your squad. I'm almost willing to say that I like all three. One of these guys if not 2 will hit that 1k plateau and be approaching that 10td mark. I'm Ok with you depth. These guys could pull it all together by years end. #6 - Dehaven LJ ADDAI Sproles Fred Taylor Lesean McCoy Buckhalter Coffee Jocstrap's take - LJ plays against Denver, OAK, and SD 6 times. That right there would make me jump for joy. Not to mention I think the guy still has something to prove. I see LJ going 1300 yards and 11 td's this year. This team has to be better than last on offense. Addai will get his touches/yards/td's again this year. No way a rookie will steal that many carries while having to protect Manning. Not going to trust Brown this early yet. Brown will keep Addai fresh IMO. I can see addai hitting 1200 total yards and 10+ td's this year, but not next year. Call me crazy, but Sproles has to see more touches - he proved what he could do when given the chance. I do believe SProles would get squished by years end if he was the #1 guy though. AND LT2 has proven he can't last the whole season anymore. I see a 65/35 split going LT's way, but Sproles will get his receptions and yards and td's with those limited touches. Thus making him a tricky decision as a flex player or bench boy. I still like the 'ol man Freddy T. He might tear it up in NE with opposing defenses scared to death about the passing threats all over the place. He might find glory like Dillon did in his golden years. McCoy, Buckhalter, and Coffee - Ehhhh, maybe just a filler for one week. I like your options here. A solid squad. 5 - AHILL Turner Benson FWP Donald Brown Tim Hightower Laurence Maroney Jocstrap's Take - Turner was finally given his chance and blew away the nay sayers (ME ME AND ME) . He will do it again this year. No receptions -no problem - you like my 15tds? I think Benson just needed a change of scenery, I like his chances to secure a season long starting gig. He might not hit very many 100 yard games, but several 75 yard games with 1 td is OK by me. I once again love FWP. Going against Cle and Cinci 4x is just awesome. The guy can still play. Your depth is very solid with Brown, Hightower and Maroney. I am sure one, if not all will seriously contribute to your squad. I think you'll get a great feel for which one of those guys to start mid way through the season. This is a solid squad! #4 Hellothere LT2 Reggie Bush Derek Ward Jerious Norwood Chris Brown LT2 will still put up his numbers. Remember how Emmitt Sucky was awesome setting records and then how fast the decline occured after that record setting year (partly in fault b/c I drafted him 2 years after the glory run)? Well we are seeing that with LT2. I still am banking on a 1350 total yard and 14-17 td performance this year. Cough Oakland x2, cough KC x2, cough Denver x2. Reggie Bush, the master of PPR if he could only stay healthy - OH NO HE CAN"T. And he can't get more than 8 td's as a rb - special teams is a N.O defense/st. The #2 headline on FFtoday is Bush feels 75% so the guy will be ready September 9th barely in shape. Not that promising IMO. Derek Ward on the other hand has the same possibility that Turner had last year. A chance to show what he has. This is your #2 Rb IMO that will help you compete week in and week out. His total yardage per game could eclipse the 100 yard mark 10+ times this year, and I'm giving him 10td's for his effort. I like your top 3 when all healthy. Jerious Norwood - did I mention I graduated from Miss. State? This is his break out year b/c he's going to get more touches on this offense that will get more 1st downs with GONZO moving the chains. Chris Brown ehh - hope he doesn't hurt his mangina. Big point totals from time to time with this group until later in the season. Then LT2 and BUSH will be hurt and your team will fall to pieces. #3 MOZ MJD SJ MORENO Jamaal Charles James Davis Your #1 and #2 are monsters. That being said can MJD hold up without the breathers from Fred Taylor? We will certainly find out. Or his he going to end up like MBIII when given the reigns with the for sure injury coming? I think not - He's so short, and built like a focking rock, his blows from defenders are totally different from a hit that MBIII would take. So hard to get a legit clean hit on him. I'm going 1750 total yards and 15+ td's this year for MJD. I just hope this offense can move the ball. some. SJ SJ SJ what are we going to do this year? You are the 1500 yard maching, but the td's have been 8 and 6 only the past two years. Something's not adding up - - - 1421+ yards last year, but only 8 td's. 1273+ the year b4 with only 6 td's. ONLY 11 and 12 games started the last 2 years though - RED FLAG RED FLAG. What week does he go down this year is the question? Moreno - TBD - I just can't get a feel for this team or what he'll bring to the table. Moreno is you X factor. He'll make or break your squad. Jamaal Charles had 629 total yards and 2 td's on only 95 touches. He's a 1000 yard man and 6 td's if LJ doens't make an impact. James Davis - who? This rb corps is strong up front, but could be decimated when SJ gets hurt, Moreno does not produce, and Jamaal Charles doesn't get his touches. A great lineup though to begin the season. #2 Jocstrap Chris Johnson Steve Slaton Pierre Thomas Ahmad Bradshaw Ricky Williams Dominic Rhodes Chris Johnson is supposed to get involved more this year in various sets. This should increase his reception total and he could be a yardage monster catching passes in open spaces. Slaton has bulked up 9 pounds of muscle this offseason. We will see how this helps in the short yardage game. He too has the ability to take every play to the house. Both of these guys have the potential for 1500+ total yards and 12+ td's each. They are the primary backs and will get their touches. Pierre Thomas will be an intrical part of the most prolific offense in the NFL. Reggie Bush is only 75% back to health with less than 4 months to go. Bush has proven he can't stay healthy so I except another huge dose of Pierre. He will also get the short yardage td's. 10+ td's again is likely in this offense. Bradshaw is an exciting pick. Derrick Ward is gone, making Bradshaw the 3rd down back. Dude is lightning in a bottle. He's going to be exciting to watch this year with all the expected touches. Williams and Rhodes are great #4 and #5 Rb's with a chance to put up #3 type of numbers week in and week out. Hell, Rhodes could be the starter weeks 1-3 depending on how he does vs Jackson. A very deep RB group with explosive players at the top. #1 FamousB Forte Westy Ronnie Brown Mendenhall Lendale Brandon Jackson Kevin Jones Forte and Westy are the going to win you games by themselves. These two are both going to hit 150 total yards each, combined with 2td's each some weeks together. HUGE POINT TOTALS POSSIBLE. I can't believe Westy slid that far, but he did. INJURY - you knew this was coming, but until it does/doesn't happen, this RB combo will be feared throughout the land. Ronnie Brown is a great #3. I'm especially curious to see how this works with Pat White running the wildcat. Brown could end up with some huge runs while defenses are stopping the QB. 10td's 1150 yards and 2 td passes. Williams should see/steal some carries, just enough to keep Brown fresh though. Mendenhall and Lendale seem to be in the same boat - the short yardage guys with a few other touches sprinkled in. Their td totals could be very solid years end. Brandon Jackson and Kevin Jones are every down backs that will see a ton more touches if Grant or Forte have any type of issues. This to is a very deep running back squad with hands down the best 1-2-3 punch in our league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted May 20, 2009 I think my Rbs are a lot better than youre giving them credit for. Washington will be a lot more involved in the Jets offense this season, and I dont see anybody but Beanie as the legitimate #1 RB on the Cards. Ill take my upside at the position over the mediocrity of some other teams Rbs. Thanks for the write up though . Hopefully I can bump this at the end of the season and you can chalk it up to another yearly jocstrap prediction gone horribly wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,703 Posted May 20, 2009 I'll save you the time. RB-C. Portis-Wheels about to fall off, worst team in Div. RB-M. Barber-Losing starting job any minute. RB-F. Jackson-Temp. RB-T. Choice-number three RB-R. Rice-backup RB-R. Jennings-who? RB-A. Brown (NYG)-Who? RB-T.J. Duckett-never was. RB-M. Goodson-who? RB-M. Moore-number :banana: D- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 I think my Rbs are a lot better than youre giving them credit for. Washington will be a lot more involved in the Jets offense this season, and I dont see anybody but Beanie as the legitimate #1 RB on the Cards. Ill take my upside at the position over the mediocrity of some other teams Rbs. Thanks for the write up though . Hopefully I can bump this at the end of the season and you can chalk it up to another yearly jocstrap prediction gone horribly wrong Who are you going to start week 1? Beannie? A rookie RB to protect a fragile QB opening day over a proven Hightower? Or what about Washington? Maybe Green? That's the problem with your rb corps LBH, a bunch of question marks. I think you are spinning the roulette wheel every week with this crap shoot of a running back corps. Your top scorer of the week will be on the bench. Then you start him the next week and he sucks, and bench boy is your top scorer. As far as a yearly Jocstrap prediction gone horribly wrong - Like it bother's me after 4 years to have my sigs say.... Deshaun Foster will go for 1350 yards and 10+ tds - after stephen davis left Jerious Norwood will outproduce reggie bush - 2 years in a row for that sig - I DID GRADUATE FROM MSU BTW FWP will gain - bla bla bla KITNA will once again throw for 4k yards or would you prefer these predictions QB Manning Brady Brees RB LT2 SA SJ WR MOSS TO HARRISON you see, I don't care going out on a limb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 I'll save you the time. RB-C. Portis-Wheels about to fall off, worst team in Div. RB-M. Barber-Losing starting job any minute. RB-F. Jackson-Temp. RB-T. Choice-number three RB-R. Rice-backup RB-R. Jennings-who? RB-A. Brown (NYG)-Who? RB-T.J. Duckett-never was. RB-M. Goodson-who? RB-M. Moore-number :banana: D- Nah, Portis and Barber are both 10+ td guys, Fred Jackson is the starter for 3/4 weeks to begin the season period. Choice and Rice ehhh. So you're next in the order Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted May 20, 2009 Disagree on Singman I would have him top 4-5 at least - as IMO he has the best RB depth. he has 6 RB's all that should see a lot fo action. 2 really solid ones in Lynch and Gore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted May 20, 2009 Who are you going to start week 1? Beannie? A rookie RB to protect a fragile QB opening day over a proven Hightower? proven what? that he can average under 3yds a carry and look absolutely terrible when given a chance to be the feature RB? You also talk about rookie RBs like they are a recipe for failure. your first 2 picks this year were rookie RBs last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted May 20, 2009 I'll save you the time. RB-C. Portis-Wheels about to fall off, worst team in Div. RB-M. Barber-Losing starting job any minute. RB-F. Jackson-Temp. RB-T. Choice-number three RB-R. Rice-backup RB-R. Jennings-who? RB-A. Brown (NYG)-Who? RB-T.J. Duckett-never was. RB-M. Goodson-who? RB-M. Moore-number :banana: D- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted May 20, 2009 I am looking at the whole squad, not just your #1 and #2. I believe you need to have at least 3 solid guys in this rotation plus a decent 4th. I know we only start 1 RB, but I am sure most of you will be starting a #2 rb over your #5 Wr in the two flex options. I am also betting that 1/2 of the league goes with a 3rb/3wr starting lineup versus 2 running backs and 4 wr's. LETS GET IT ON - IF YOU B!TCH - I DON"T GIVE A FOCK. IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHERE I RANK YOU - I DON"T GIVE A FOCK 12th is the worst running back corps 1st is the best NOTE: This was very very hard to rank 1 through 12. So my rankings may just be backasswards. 12 - LBH Kevin Smith Beanie Wells Leon Washington Shonn Green Michael Bush Jocstrap's take - this ain't gunna gettr dun. While I love Kevin Smith this year, where the hell are the rest of your starters? Green and Washington are going to eat away at each other. R U going to gamble on Washington's 5-8 carries per game and hopes he hits the home run? I could actually see shonn green taking the starting job mid season - I do like this rookie much more than the masses. Beanie better pick up the blocking scheme for ol man Warner + Hightower did actually put up some numbers. 11 - Big Blue 06 DeAngelo Williams Thomas Jones Earnest Graham Jerome Harrison Jocstrap's take - You were gifted DeAngelo Williams who I think will still be a top 3 producing RB the entire year. He could very well be our current LT2 that dominated for a few years in FF. Hell he might even by #1 again this year. But what the fock is the rest of that RB corps? I know you committed to Wr's, but YIKES. Thomas Jones is going to lose a ton of carries this year to Washington and Greene. You will feel like what I suffered through last year by going WR strong. A freakin' RB graveyard for your roster. You should almost be #12. Maybe you should trade away Thomas Jones to LBH and let him deal with that 3 headed monster. I see a RB for a WR trade coming early in the season 4 U! 10 -Tarheel Boy Brandon Jacobs Ryan Grant Chester Taylor Justin Fargas Ladell Betts Kenny Watson Jocstrap's take - Well, at least you have two starters. I love BJ's - HONEY IT"S BEEN A FOCKING YEAR DAMMIT:) Ok, seriously I don't care if the guy has injury questions. He's a focking td monster and that's fine by me. I love watching BJ run over people. Ryan Grant might end up outscoring him by years end though. I like your top 2, but then the bottom falls out. Taylor will have some decent games, but will you have confidence putting him in the lineup over your #4 WR? One week you win the crap shoot, the next week you lose. The rest just flat out are begging for their starters to get hurt. 9 - Singman Gore Lynch Lewis Julius Jones Jonathon Stewart Le'ron McClain Jocstrap's Take - Gore could be huge. 1500 total yards and 10+ td's is definitely a possibility. His receptions make him very valuable. Lynch, should get every opportunity, but won't start helping you until week 5 (takes 2 games just to get back to real game speed after the suspension). I do believe Buffalo will have more offensive td's this year with TO helping the offense move the ball. Lewis just blows. Julius Jones, Stewart, and McClain could all step up for your squad. I'm almost willing to say that I like all three. One of these guys if not 2 will hit that 1k plateau and be approaching that 10td mark. I'm Ok with you depth, making your 9 ranking much higher than the 3 chumps ahead of you. These guys could pull it all together by years end. 8 - Dehaven LJ ADDAI Sproles Fred Taylor Lesean McCoy Buckhalter Coffee Jocstrap's take - LJ plays against Denver, OAK, and SD 6 times. That right there would make me jump for joy. Not to mention I think the guy still has something to prove. I see LJ going 1300 yards and 11 td's this year. This team has to be better than last on offense. Addai will get his touches/yards/td's again this year. No way a rookie will steal that many carries while having to protect Manning. Not going to trust Brown this early yet. Brown will keep Addai fresh IMO. I can see addai hitting 1200 total yards and 10+ td's this year, but not next year. Call me crazy, but Sproles has to see more touches - he proved what he could do when given the chance. I do believe SProles would get squished by years end if he was the #1 guy though. AND LT2 has proven he can't last the whole season anymore. I see a 65/35 split going LT's way, but Sproles will get his receptions and yards and td's with those limited touches. Thus making him a tricky decision as a flex player or bench boy. I still like the 'ol man Freddy T. He might tear it up in NE with opposing defenses scared to death about the passing threats all over the place. He might find glory like Dillon did in his golden years. McCoy, Buckhalter, and Coffee - Ehhhh, maybe just a filler for one week. I like your options here. A solid squad. I"M DONE FOR NOW - WILL RESUME THIS TOMORROW! HOPE YOU BOYS ENJOY THE 1st HALF! 7 - AHILL Turner Benson FWP Donald Brown Tim Hightower Laurence Maroney Jocstrap's Take - Turner was finally given his chance and blew away the nay sayers (ME ME AND ME) . He will do it again this year. No receptions -no problem - you like my 15tds? I think Benson just needed a change of scenery, I like his chances to secure a season long starting gig. He might not hit very many 100 yard games, but several 75 yard games with 1 td is OK by me. I once again love FWP. Going against Cle and Cinci 4x is just awesome. The guy can still play. Your depth is very solid with Brown, Hightower and Maroney. I am sure one, if not all will seriously contribute to your squad. I think you'll get a great feel for which one of those guys to start mid way through the season. This is a solid squad! There is no way AHill RB's are btr than mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted May 20, 2009 Disagree on Singman I would have him top 4-5 at least - as IMO he has the best RB depth. he has 6 RB's all that should see a lot fo action. 2 really solid ones in Lynch and Gore. I would disagree as well. 2008: Gore - 1400 yds 8 tds Lynch - 1400 yds 9 tds Lewis - 1200 yds 4 tds Stewart - 900 10 tds Mclain - 1000 yds 11 tds Jones - 800 yds 2 tds Barring a major injury, Gore should perform at least up to 2008 standards. Lynch will obviously lose some due to the 3 game layoff but I also think TO is going to open him up for some more space. Nobody is threatening Lewis's job and winslow is going to open up the middle a bit more for lewis. Jones put up his numbers last year splitting time with Morris. His #s should increase. Stewart and Mclain both have good shots for 1000 yds and 6-8 Tds. I may not have 2 studs but I have 6 guys that should all put up 1000 yds and 6-10 tds. When the big names start going down I expect to have a ton of offers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted May 20, 2009 i respect your ranking system Joc, and look forward to the next set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 I had to make some changes in my rankings fellas. AFter Gepetto's and Kutulu's teams, I just couldn't rank those above Sing, Dehaven, and Ahill Sorry to disappoint you Kutulu and Gepetto, but after I typed in my responses and rb analysis, I couldn't have you two ranked 5th and 6th. So I lowered your rankings thus moving up Singman, Dehaven, and Ahill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 Disagree on Singman I would have him top 4-5 at least - as IMO he has the best RB depth. he has 6 RB's all that should see a lot fo action. 2 really solid ones in Lynch and Gore. But Lynch is out 1/4 of the season. He won't get the full load week 4, I'm sure of that. Lewis still sucks I like Julius Jones I like Jonathon Stewart McClain/Mcgahee - who gets the gig? like I said his group could pull it all together by the end of the season. I like his rb corps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 There is no way AHill RB's are btr than mine. Turner>LB FWP>ADDAI - - IMO - - I believe FWP will have a huge year Benson>Sproles I personally like his guys better than yours. What can I say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted May 20, 2009 I am looking at the whole squad, not just your #1 and #2. I believe you need to have at least 3 solid guys in this rotation plus a decent 4th. I know we only start 1 RB, but I am sure most of you will be starting a #2 rb over your #5 Wr in the two flex options. I am also betting that 1/2 of the league goes with a 3rb/3wr starting lineup versus 2 running backs and 4 wr's. LETS GET IT ON - IF YOU B!TCH - I DON"T GIVE A FOCK. IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHERE I RANK YOU - I DON"T GIVE A FOCK 12th is the worst running back corps 1st is the best NOTE: This was very very hard to rank 1 through 12. So my rankings may just be backasswards. 12 - LBH Kevin Smith Beanie Wells Leon Washington Shonn Green Michael Bush Jocstrap's take - this ain't gunna gettr dun. While I love Kevin Smith this year, where the hell are the rest of your starters? Green and Washington are going to eat away at each other. R U going to gamble on Washington's 5-8 carries per game and hopes he hits the home run? I could actually see shonn green taking the starting job mid season - I do like this rookie much more than the masses. Beanie better pick up the blocking scheme for ol man Warner + Hightower did actually put up some numbers. 11 - Big Blue 06 DeAngelo Williams Thomas Jones Earnest Graham Jerome Harrison Jocstrap's take - You were gifted DeAngelo Williams who I think will still be a top 3 producing RB the entire year. He could very well be our current LT2 that dominated for a few years in FF. Hell he might even by #1 again this year. But what the fock is the rest of that RB corps? I know you committed to Wr's, but YIKES. Thomas Jones is going to lose a ton of carries this year to Washington and Greene. You will feel like what I suffered through last year by going WR strong. A freakin' RB graveyard for your roster. You should almost be #12. Maybe you should trade away Thomas Jones to LBH and let him deal with that 3 headed monster. I see a RB for a WR trade coming early in the season 4 U! 10 -Tarheel Boy Brandon Jacobs Ryan Grant Chester Taylor Justin Fargas Ladell Betts Kenny Watson Jocstrap's take - Well, at least you have two starters. I love BJ's - HONEY IT"S BEEN A FOCKING YEAR DAMMIT:) Ok, seriously I don't care if the guy has injury questions. He's a focking td monster and that's fine by me. I love watching BJ run over people. Ryan Grant might end up outscoring him by years end though. I like your top 2, but then the bottom falls out. Taylor will have some decent games, but will you have confidence putting him in the lineup over your #4 WR? One week you win the crap shoot, the next week you lose. The rest just flat out are begging for their starters to get hurt. #9 Gepetto AD McFadden Felix Jones McGahee AD - no need to even explain. I think this offense will be better than last year. Harvin will surely help in the 1st down department and to help take some huge chunks of field in the process. I really hope Sage wins the starting job. He'll at least throw a better ball than Tarvarius. I like Mcfadden more this year than last. I can see 1100 yards with 8ish td's. Playing Denver and KC 4x's also helps his cause. Felix Jones has a chance if he can stay on the field - 800-900 yards and 7 td's is upside. McGahee could hit the 1000 yard and 9 td mark if you're lucky. But then again, that offense might not even score 10td's this year. You sure don't have many options at the flex position from this crew though. No depth is the killer here. 3 out of your 4 are in rbbc messes. #8 - KUTULU Portis MBIII Fred Jackson Tashard Choice Ray Rice Rashad Jennings Andre Brown TJ Duckett Mike Goodson Mewelde Moore Portis is still a stud. Slowing down, perhaps, but still a lock for 1300 yards and 11-13 td's. Plus the addition of Haynesworth on defense should give the offense more opportunities to see the ball. Now if they can only get their two 2nd round WR picks of last year to help out Moss and Cooley, then this team could actually put up some points. MBIII is a gold mine when in the game. I think he makes or breaks your RB corps depending on how many weeks he stays healthy. 1500+ total yards to go with 15+ td's is the high end, but still reachable. Fred Jackson will be the many 4 weeks, you will know by then if he's earned enough respect to take away Lynch's carries. The only reason you are ranked ahead of at least 2 of the teams above is b/c of Portis and MBIII and the entire WW of RB's. Surely one of those guys will be a starter by week 6. 10 count them 10 on your current roster!!!!!!!!!! #7 - Singman Gore Lynch Lewis Julius Jones Jonathon Stewart Le'ron McClain Jocstrap's Take - Gore could be huge. 1500 total yards and 10+ td's is definitely a possibility. His receptions make him very valuable. Lynch, should get every opportunity, but won't start helping you until week 5 (takes 2 games just to get back to real game speed after the suspension). I do believe Buffalo will have more offensive td's this year with TO helping the offense move the ball. Lewis just blows. Julius Jones, Stewart, and McClain could all step up for your squad. I'm almost willing to say that I like all three. One of these guys if not 2 will hit that 1k plateau and be approaching that 10td mark. I'm Ok with you depth. These guys could pull it all together by years end. #6 - Dehaven LJ ADDAI Sproles Fred Taylor Lesean McCoy Buckhalter Coffee Jocstrap's take - LJ plays against Denver, OAK, and SD 6 times. That right there would make me jump for joy. Not to mention I think the guy still has something to prove. I see LJ going 1300 yards and 11 td's this year. This team has to be better than last on offense. Addai will get his touches/yards/td's again this year. No way a rookie will steal that many carries while having to protect Manning. Not going to trust Brown this early yet. Brown will keep Addai fresh IMO. I can see addai hitting 1200 total yards and 10+ td's this year, but not next year. Call me crazy, but Sproles has to see more touches - he proved what he could do when given the chance. I do believe SProles would get squished by years end if he was the #1 guy though. AND LT2 has proven he can't last the whole season anymore. I see a 65/35 split going LT's way, but Sproles will get his receptions and yards and td's with those limited touches. Thus making him a tricky decision as a flex player or bench boy. I still like the 'ol man Freddy T. He might tear it up in NE with opposing defenses scared to death about the passing threats all over the place. He might find glory like Dillon did in his golden years. McCoy, Buckhalter, and Coffee - Ehhhh, maybe just a filler for one week. I like your options here. A solid squad. 5 - AHILL Turner Benson FWP Donald Brown Tim Hightower Laurence Maroney Jocstrap's Take - Turner was finally given his chance and blew away the nay sayers (ME ME AND ME) . He will do it again this year. No receptions -no problem - you like my 15tds? I think Benson just needed a change of scenery, I like his chances to secure a season long starting gig. He might not hit very many 100 yard games, but several 75 yard games with 1 td is OK by me. I once again love FWP. Going against Cle and Cinci 4x is just awesome. The guy can still play. Your depth is very solid with Brown, Hightower and Maroney. I am sure one, if not all will seriously contribute to your squad. I think you'll get a great feel for which one of those guys to start mid way through the season. This is a solid squad! JMO outta the ones you have listed I would rank them 12. Delay - his 2 "starters" are shaky IMO LJ who really knows yet how this ends up? and Addai ? - If LJ thing is non issue which is looking like it might be than he has 1 solid starter but Addai IMO is as shaky as Rhodes was when Addai was a rookie. 11. BB06 - 1 really nice option in Dwill then ??? 10. Tboy - a solid RB in Jacobs and a decent starter in Grant ... nothing else 9. Gepetto - Awesomness in AD - rest are ???'s Though Felix does look nice if he gets a chance - not sold on DMC right now. 8. lbh - IMO Jones is finished in NYJ and Greene will indeed get a lot of work - time will tell there. 7. ahill - great RB in Turner and I like benson alot - Parker no so much. 6. kutulu - Portis and MBIII are a solid duo and I like Ray Rice 5. singman - goes 5 deep on current starters and his 1 non starter is pretty damn good in Stewy. JMO again - great work joc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted May 20, 2009 joc, Ninth? Seriously, ninth? :puke: Although you project good stats for all 4 of my RBs you then go on to say I don't have depth. We can only start 3 RBs and I have 4 with projected totals of close to or over 1000 yards and lots of touchdowns. Maybe you should be projecting receptions too...it is a ppr league afterall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,703 Posted May 20, 2009 Yeah, I need one of these scrubs to pan out or else I'm looking at another 1 win season: Fred Jackson Tashard Choice Ray Rice Rashad Jennings Andre Brown TJ Duckett Mike Goodson Mewelde Moore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted May 20, 2009 I'm looking at another 1 win season: re you will do 3X better than that ... things are looking up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,703 Posted May 20, 2009 you will do 3X better than that ... things are looking up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 joc, Ninth? Seriously, ninth? :puke: Although you project good stats for all 4 of my RBs you then go on to say I don't have depth. We can only start 3 RBs and I have 4 with projected totals of close to or over 1000 yards and lots of touchdowns. Maybe you should be projecting receptions too...it is a ppr league afterall. I had some IF's in there also. IF Felix can stay on the field. If Baltimore even scores 10td's and was it McClain or Mcgahee? Mcfadden has 2 other Rb's to compete against also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted May 20, 2009 I had some IF's in there also. IF Felix can stay on the field. If Baltimore even scores 10td's and was it McClain or Mcgahee? Mcfadden has 2 other Rb's to compete against also. I think both McFadden and Felix Jones will start and even if they aren't on the field for the first play so not technically starting will get a ton of plays and lots of catches and yards. McGahee is the starting Running Back. McClain is moved to fullback recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 I think both McFadden and Felix Jones will start and even if they aren't on the field for the first play so not technically starting will get a ton of plays and lots of catches and yards. McGahee is the starting Running Back. McClain is moved to fullback recently. I looked at Felix's touches before I moved your ranking down. 6 games 30 rushing attempts - 266/3 2 receptions for 10 yards Now the only way I can compute to a full season of touches would be to multiply that by 2.5 which would be... 32 X 2.5 = 80 touches 690 total yards 7.5 td's If you think he will outperform MBIII and take the starting job, then my numbers could be waaay off. If MIII stays the starter all 16 games, then I can't really see Felix getting more than my projections above. Mcgahee hasn't played all 16 games the past three seasons which leads me to believe he won't do it again this year. He's never had more than 7 rushing td's with Baltimore either. He has 1 receiving td in 6 years in the league. 1150 total yards and 8 td's is the HIGHEST I can go for him 2009. McFadden - the Oakland raiders scored a total of 9 touchdowns from ALL their running backs combined last year. Here is my concern TOUCHES week 17 BUSH 27/177/2 McFadden 1/2/0 week 16 Fargas 22/93/0 Mcfadden 12/46/0 + 5/41/0 receiving week 15 McFadden 12/46/1 + 3/68/0 Fargas 22/93/0 week 14 Fargas 12/50/0 McFadden 1/0/0 + 2/8/0 Bush 2/4/0 week 13 Fargas 18/82/1 Mcfadden 7/13/0 + 3/50/0 week 12 McFadden 10/38/2 + 2/14/0 Fargas 24/107/0 Bush 2/0/0 So who is the starter on this team? I'll give you McGahee as the legit starter after doing a little research. His upside still has less than 10td's and no complete years in 3. So you have 2 starters and 2 rbbc fellas that you HOPE emerge as the starters IF they can actually stay healthy. Which FELIX and DARREN could not do as rookies even splitting carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted May 20, 2009 I looked at Felix's touches before I moved your ranking down. 6 games 30 rushing attempts - 266/3 2 receptions for 10 yards Now the only way I can compute to a full season of touches would be to multiply that by 2.5 which would be... 32 X 2.5 = 80 touches 690 total yards 7.5 td's If you think he will outperform MBIII and take the starting job, then my numbers could be waaay off. If MIII stays the starter all 16 games, then I can't really see Felix getting more than my projections above. Mcgahee hasn't played all 16 games the past three seasons which leads me to believe he won't do it again this year. He's never had more than 7 rushing td's with Baltimore either. He has 1 receiving td in 6 years in the league. 1150 total yards and 8 td's is the HIGHEST I can go for him 2009. McFadden - the Oakland raiders scored a total of 9 touchdowns from ALL their running backs combined last year. Here is my concern TOUCHES week 17 BUSH 27/177/2 McFadden 1/2/0 week 16 Fargas 22/93/0 Mcfadden 12/46/0 + 5/41/0 receiving week 15 McFadden 12/46/1 + 3/68/0 Fargas 22/93/0 week 14 Fargas 12/50/0 McFadden 1/0/0 + 2/8/0 Bush 2/4/0 week 13 Fargas 18/82/1 Mcfadden 7/13/0 + 3/50/0 week 12 McFadden 10/38/2 + 2/14/0 Fargas 24/107/0 Bush 2/0/0 So who is the starter on this team? I'll give you McGahee as the legit starter after doing a little research. His upside still has less than 10td's and no complete years in 3. So you have 2 starters and 2 rbbc fellas that you HOPE emerge as the starters IF they can actually stay healthy. Which FELIX and DARREN could not do as rookies even splitting carries. Why would you expect either Felix or DMac to get hurt this year? They both had surgery and are completely healed and their coaches have both said they are very explosive in practice. Are you expecting Tom Brady to get hurt again this year? I mean he got hurt in the first game last year, so it probably happens again this year? :sarcasm: Also, Chris Johnson seemed to do OK in RBBC in this ppr league. RBBC runningbacks often outproduce starters that have the role all to themselves. e.g. MJD vs. Jamal Lewis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,703 Posted May 20, 2009 I'll give you McGahee as the legit starter after doing a little research. Ray Rice is gonna take that job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 Ray Rice is gonna take that job. I had that thought in the back of my head Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 20, 2009 Why would you expect either Felix or DMac to get hurt this year? They both had surgery and are completely healed and their coaches have both said they are very explosive in practice. Are you expecting Tom Brady to get hurt again this year? I mean he got hurt in the first game last year, so it probably happens again this year? :sarcasm: Also, Chris Johnson seemed to do OK in RBBC in this ppr league. RBBC runningbacks often outproduce starters that have the role all to themselves. e.g. MJD vs. Jamal Lewis. They were both hurt with a minimal amount of touches. They are both batting 100% in the NFL as not staying healthy. I'm just playing devils advocate Gepetto. I was born in Little Rock - PIG SUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! I love your two Razorback Boys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted May 21, 2009 My thoughts: Mcgahee is already rehabbing an injury from last year. It is only a metter of time before he breaks a nail. I actually like Rice a little more in Baltimore than Mcgahee. The only thing keeping dude on the roster is his cap number. keep that in mind for when I make an offer Kutulu. Lets get this straight right now.............. NOBODY is talking Barbers job if he does not get hurt. kids a beast when he gets going. Ooooh Jones looked great....... in limited touches, Ooooooh Choice looked good when Barber was hurt. Stop reaching. A healthy Batber keeps Jones and Choice on the bench. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard "the backup is so great". DMC - I love to hear about his "talent". A ton of players came out of college with "can't miss talent". He has so much talent he played behind huggy bears kid and the other Bush. Very impressive. <sarcasm> I just don't see a lot of upside there for any players. BTW - Jamal Lewis "sucks"? I have a $50 to any side bet takers who want dispute his 1000 yards rushing this year. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I love the action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 21, 2009 My thoughts: Mcgahee is already rehabbing an injury from last year. It is only a metter of time before he breaks a nail. I actually like Rice a little more in Baltimore than Mcgahee. The only thing keeping dude on the roster is his cap number. keep that in mind for when I make an offer Kutulu. Lets get this straight right now.............. NOBODY is talking Barbers job if he does not get hurt. kids a beast when he gets going. Ooooh Jones looked great....... in limited touches, Ooooooh Choice looked good when Barber was hurt. Stop reaching. A healthy Batber keeps Jones and Choice on the bench. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard "the backup is so great". DMC - I love to hear about his "talent". A ton of players came out of college with "can't miss talent". He has so much talent he played behind huggy bears kid and the other Bush. Very impressive. <sarcasm> I just don't see a lot of upside there for any players. BTW - Jamal Lewis "sucks"? I have a $50 to any side bet takers who want dispute his 1000 yards rushing this year. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I love the action. I think that also - but what's the over/under on td's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted May 21, 2009 [/color] I think that also - but what's the over/under on td's? I would set the over under at 6 and take the over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted May 21, 2009 My thoughts: Mcgahee is already rehabbing an injury from last year. It is only a metter of time before he breaks a nail. I actually like Rice a little more in Baltimore than Mcgahee. The only thing keeping dude on the roster is his cap number. keep that in mind for when I make an offer Kutulu. Lets get this straight right now.............. NOBODY is talking Barbers job if he does not get hurt. kids a beast when he gets going. Ooooh Jones looked great....... in limited touches, Ooooooh Choice looked good when Barber was hurt. Stop reaching. A healthy Batber keeps Jones and Choice on the bench. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard "the backup is so great". DMC - I love to hear about his "talent". A ton of players came out of college with "can't miss talent". He has so much talent he played behind huggy bears kid and the other Bush. Very impressive. <sarcasm> I just don't see a lot of upside there for any players. BTW - Jamal Lewis "sucks"? I have a $50 to any side bet takers who want dispute his 1000 yards rushing this year. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I love the action. So you pimp Ray Rice in one paragraph and in the next paragraph talk about how much you hate when people talk about how great a backup RB is...how ironic. Also, Michael Bush was never ahead of McFadden on the Raiders depth chart, only when McFadden was hurt/limited by injury. Fargas...I don't understand why the Raiders don't just move him to 3rd string...and I think they will eventually. Also, 1000 yards rushing in 16 games isn't anything special, especially with limited catches and touchdowns. You'll all see. I'm winning this league this year. :fistpump: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted May 21, 2009 So you pimp Ray Rice in one paragraph and in the next paragraph talk about how much you hate when people talk about how great a backup RB is...how ironic. Also, Michael Bush was never ahead of McFadden on the Raiders depth chart, only when McFadden was hurt/limited by injury. Fargas...I don't understand why the Raiders don't just move him to 3rd string...and I think they will eventually. Also, 1000 yards rushing in 16 games isn't anything special, especially with limited catches and touchdowns. You'll all see. I'm winning this league this year. :fistpump: Gepetto - to be honest I don't like your team much right now - but you have put together a top 2 team if not the best team the last 2 seasons at least in terms of people not wanting to play you the last 2 years -- I am actually bumping up DMC and Felix due to that alone - sorry I can't get behind Berrian and Bryant though -- thats another thread I guess. You and LBH are really good in spotting players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singman2 0 Posted May 21, 2009 So you pimp Ray Rice in one paragraph and in the next paragraph talk about how much you hate when people talk about how great a backup RB is...how ironic. Also, Michael Bush was never ahead of McFadden on the Raiders depth chart, only when McFadden was hurt/limited by injury. Fargas...I don't understand why the Raiders don't just move him to 3rd string...and I think they will eventually. Also, 1000 yards rushing in 16 games isn't anything special, especially with limited catches and touchdowns. You'll all see. I'm winning this league this year. :fistpump: Don't get me wrong. I am not pimping Ray Rice or even saying he is "great". I simply think he has a better chance at fantasy relevance than Willis Mcgahee. I still think Mclain is the guy to have there. You can keep begging the raiders to "move Fargas to 3rd string" but that is a messed up organization and I wouldn't hold my breath. 1000 yards in 16 games is not anything special in fantasy football but I hink I have 6 of them and that is not an easy commodity to come by. Some teams will come knocking before the off season is over. My activity level is going up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted May 21, 2009 Don't get me wrong. I am not pimping Ray Rice or even saying he is "great". I simply think he has a better chance at fantasy relevance than Willis Mcgahee. I still think Mclain is the guy to have there. You can keep begging the raiders to "move Fargas to 3rd string" but that is a messed up organization and I wouldn't hold my breath. 1000 yards in 16 games is not anything special in fantasy football but I hink I have 6 of them and that is not an easy commodity to come by. Some teams will come knocking before the off season is over. My activity level is going up. :headbanger: Did you get your order of EXTENDZ in the mail? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted May 21, 2009 Back OT - many folks seem to question SJ - IMO if he stays healthy he is the best PPR back in football. He does get dinged up easy it seems an thats the risk - he does have a nice schedule , they just drafted an oline - an who else the gonna throw to? He should get a ton of dump offs. IMO SJ is a matter of health - he stays healthy there no way he finishes out of the the top 3 PPR - I have taken this gamble in 3 of my 5 leagues so far and I am set to take him if I pick 2-5 in WCOFF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted May 21, 2009 Turner>LBFWP>ADDAI - - IMO - - I believe FWP will have a huge year Benson>Sproles I personally like his guys better than yours. What can I say? You can say you were wrong and have corrected your mistake. FWP outscores Addai? Not a chance. I accept your apology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted May 21, 2009 JMO outta the ones you have listed I would rank them 12. Delay - his 2 "starters" are shaky IMO LJ who really knows yet how this ends up? and Addai ? - If LJ thing is non issue which is looking like it might be than he has 1 solid starter but Addai IMO is as shaky as Rhodes was when Addai was a rookie. 11. BB06 - 1 really nice option in Dwill then ??? 10. Tboy - a solid RB in Jacobs and a decent starter in Grant ... nothing else 9. Gepetto - Awesomness in AD - rest are ???'s Though Felix does look nice if he gets a chance - not sold on DMC right now. 8. lbh - IMO Jones is finished in NYJ and Greene will indeed get a lot of work - time will tell there. 7. ahill - great RB in Turner and I like benson alot - Parker no so much. 6. kutulu - Portis and MBIII are a solid duo and I like Ray Rice 5. singman - goes 5 deep on current starters and his 1 non starter is pretty damn good in Stewy. JMO again - great work joc... LJ- "who really knows yet how this thing will end up". Not sure what that means..... Do you seriously think he wont start in KC or his position is in jeopardy? "Addai as shaky as Rhodes". Your comparison is not applicable. Rhodes was a 1st rd draft pick 2 yrs b4 Addai? C'mon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 71 Posted May 21, 2009 LJ- "who really knows yet how this thing will end up". Not sure what that means.....Do you seriously think he wont start in KC or his position is in jeopardy? "Addai as shaky as Rhodes". Your comparison is not applicable. Rhodes was a 1st rd draft pick 2 yrs b4 Addai? C'mon. hey when am I ever right? you should be taking that as a great sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,703 Posted May 21, 2009 Lets get this straight right now.............. NOBODY is talking Barbers job if he does not get hurt. kids a beast when he gets going. Ooooh Jones looked great....... in limited touches, Ooooooh Choice looked good when Barber was hurt. Stop reaching. A healthy Batber keeps Jones and Choice on the bench. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard "the backup is so great". I hope your right about this, but there is a ton of buzz about Felix taking the starting job. I had Felix last year in my big $$ league and the kid is dynamite. Jerry Jones has said they need to get him more touches and point to his injuries last year as really hurting Dallas. That said, he needs to stay healthy to do this (of course), Barber is still a beast when healthy and Choice seemed to show that he can fill in with little drop off. Any one of these three get banged up and the stock of the other two go up. I can see Dallas really running the ball down other teams throats this year now with TO gone and the trifecta they now have in the running back field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted May 22, 2009 I hope your right about this, but there is a ton of buzz about Felix taking the starting job. I had Felix last year in my big $ league and the kid is dynamite. Jerry Jones has said they need to get him more touches and point to his injuries last year as really hurting Dallas. That said, he needs to stay healthy to do this (of course), Barber is still a beast when healthy and Choice seemed to show that he can fill in with little drop off. Any one of these three get banged up and the stock of the other two go up. I can see Dallas really running the ball down other teams throats this year now with TO gone and the trifecta they now have in the running back field. Everything ive read this offseason would suggest that Felix Jones will absolutley be much more than a bench warmer behind Barber. This is a case of singman either over pimping his player or not following the blurbs through rotoworld which is where i got the info below Team VP Stephen Jones believes Felix Jones' toe injury was "without question" the most devastating of all the Cowboys' injuries last season. Apparently he missed Brad Johnson's impersonation of a quarterback while Tony Romo was out with a fractured finger. Jerry's son also praised Jones as the most impactful single player the Dallas has had "since I don't know when." This seems ludicrous - Felix has played in six career games. He has bulked up a bit and is said to be "thicker in the chest" this year. All the praise is proof of the huge role Dallas expects Felix to take this year. Marion Barber's yards-per-carry average dropped from 4.8 to 3.7 in 2009. The precipitous drop is due in part to the late-season toe injury, but Barber was also overused in 2008. Big-play weapon Felix Jones spent too much time on the bench early last year, and Tashard Choice was more effective than Barber in December. With a glut of backfield talent, don't be surprised to see MBIII resume his pre-2008 "closer"/goal-line back role going forward. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones confirmed that the team is considering moving Felix Jones into the starting lineup with Marion Barber going back to his pre-2008 "closer" role. The owner was careful to emphasize that Barber will still be heavily involved in the offense, but this confirms our suspicions that Felix Jones will be worked in more in 2009. Barber's 248 touches to Julius Jones' 167 in 2007 may be a good baseline for Barber vs. Felix Jones and Tashard Choice in 2009.Source: Dallas Morning News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites