sameo98 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Hello everyone, I went against the grain and drafted Michael Turner as my #1 choice in our draft and I feel really confident about it. Here's my full draft results: 1 Michael Turner, Atl-RB 24 Aaron Rodgers, GB-QB 25 Clinton Portis, Was-RB 48 Ray Rice, Bal-RB 49 Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG-RB 72 Donald Driver, GB-WR 73 Steve Breaston, Ari-WR 96 Greg Olsen, Chi-TE 97 Vikings D/ST, Min-DEF 120 Johnnie Lee Higgins, Oak-WR 121 Ben Roethlisberger, Pit-QB 144 Patrick Crayton, Dal-WR 145 Bobby Engram, KC-WR 168 John Carney, NO-K Your thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smashmouth 0 Posted August 27, 2009 I'm avoiding Turner this year. I didnt heed the warning a few years back and drafted LJ after his 400 carry season and he went down early. I hope it works out for you but I will be going with other options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sameo98 0 Posted August 27, 2009 On Michael Turner's touches, I was already confident that he would do fine as his offense has gotten even stronger this year. Plus this article also made me even more confident in my decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illest 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Depending on your scoring, I don't like your draft at all -- your starting wide receiver corp is as bad as I've seen. I just drafted from the #1 spot twice (sweeet!) and got AP of course in both and in one got Calvin Johnson/Reggie Wayne and the other I got Reggie Wayne/Greg Jennings. I think you neglected your WR position a bit too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGeek 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Depending on your scoring, I don't like your draft at all -- your starting wide receiver corp is as bad as I've seen. I just drafted from the #1 spot twice (sweeet!) and got AP of course in both and in one got Calvin Johnson/Reggie Wayne and the other I got Reggie Wayne/Greg Jennings. I think you neglected your WR position a bit too much. Great, but u obviously took RB, WR, WR. Who's ur 2nd RB? If AP goes down u may suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illest 0 Posted August 27, 2009 My Two Starting Teams from the #1 Spot: --------- D. McNabb G. Jennings R. Wayne Adrian Peterson Ryan Grant Ray Rice (or Jamal Lewis, or Knowshown Moreno) A. Gates ---------- M. Shaub Calvin Johnson R. Wayne Adrian Peterson Ray Rice Fred Jackson (or Julius Jones or several other hopefuls I hope just one pans out) A. Gates ---------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted August 27, 2009 I think drafting Turner first should be the last thing to worry about, the rest of your team blows..... You took rodgers in the 2nd, probably reached on rice, and will be starting some terrible WR's, pretty crappy overall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted August 27, 2009 Turner's offense may have gotten better, but his run defense schedule is a lot tougher this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HardTack 0 Posted August 27, 2009 I thought the draft was decent until Ahmad Bradshaw pick. You should have grabbed a WR there...probably a Vincent Jackson, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards, A.Gonzo...they all fall in that range. I too am all for grabbing some RBs early, but not at the neglect of my WRs. Like someone stated...it all depends on the scoring system and the lineup requirement. If you start 2WR/2RB/1 Flex...you might be in decent shape. If Fitz or Boldin go down...you may be in really good shape. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sameo98 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Here's the # of starters per position: Quarterback (QB) 1 Running Back (RB) 2 Running Back/Wide Receiver (RB/WR) 1 Wide Receiver (WR) 2 Tight End (TE) 1 Team Defense/Special Teams (D/ST) 1 Place Kicker (K) 1 Bench (BE) 5 Scoring: Passing TD Pass 4 Every 25 passing yards 1 2pt Passing Conversion 2 Rushing TD Rush 6 2pt Rushing Conversion 2 Every 10 rushing yards 1 Receiving TD Reception 6 2pt Receiving Conversion 2 Every 10 receiving yards 1 Miscellaneous Fumble Recovered for TD 6 Kickoff Return TD 6 Punt Return TD 6 Kicking FG Made (50+ yards) 5 FG Made (40-49 yards) 4 FG Made (0-39 yards) 3 Each PAT Made 1 Team Defense / Special Teams 0 points allowed 10 2-6 points allowed 7 7-13 points allowed 4 14-17 points allowed 1 Blocked Punt or FG return for TD 6 Each Interception 2 Each Fumble Recovered 2 Blocked Punt, PAT or FG 2 Each Safety 2 Each Sack 2 Kickoff Return TD 6 Punt Return TD 6 Interception Return TD 6 Fumble Return TD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illest 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Okay, so having seen your scoring I think your team is even worse. Sorry. Wide Receivers are VERY important in your league, they score the same as running backs and yet you neglected that position?? A Driver/Breaston starting combo is just plain awful. Neither of them would even be on my bench. Either of my teams I drafted from the #1 hole would absolutely dismantle your team. I usually don't like to be critical but this is so profoundly obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGeek 0 Posted August 27, 2009 My Two Starting Teams from the #1 Spot: --------- D. McNabb G. Jennings R. Wayne Adrian Peterson Ryan Grant Ray Rice (or Jamal Lewis, or Knowshown Moreno) A. Gates ---------- M. Shaub Calvin Johnson R. Wayne Adrian Peterson Ray Rice Fred Jackson (or Julius Jones or several other hopefuls I hope just one pans out) A. Gates ---------- How many teams in league? If 10 (which I'm sure it is) then these teams are avg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illest 0 Posted August 27, 2009 12 teams. My first team is rediculously good... no denying that. My second team is pretty darn good. I have lots of RB depth on that team so if one of my many prospects turn out that team will be rediculously good too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGeek 0 Posted August 27, 2009 I think drafting Turner first should be the last thing to worry about, the rest of your team blows..... You took rodgers in the 2nd, probably reached on rice, and will be starting some terrible WR's, pretty crappy overall I'm in 12 Team League. Got Rodgers in 5th and Rice in 10th( before all the hype). We drafted last week, and McClain and Mcgahee were both picked before Rice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGeek 0 Posted August 27, 2009 12 teams. My first team is rediculously good... no denying that. My second team is pretty darn good. I have lots of RB depth on that team so if one of my many prospects turn out that team will be rediculously good too No, the only thing "ridiculous" is the people in your league. Heck, next year ask both Grandparents and Aunt Edna to drop out, so people who know football can play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illest 0 Posted August 27, 2009 No, the only thing "ridiculous" is the people in your league.Heck, next year ask both Grandparents and Aunt Edna to drop out, so people who know football can play. Nah man, I'm just that good at drafting. Lol - no seriously in league #1 I was fortunate to get Grant, he shouldn't have been there. League #1 is an average league. League #2 is full of very talented drafters so I had to fight and claw for that team, that was definitely not a gimmie. Both are money leagues so I'm excited. I'm drafting again in a week - I hope I get the #1 spot again, that seems to be a great position to draft from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sameo98 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Okay, so having seen your scoring I think your team is even worse. Sorry. Wide Receivers are VERY important in your league, they score the same as running backs and yet you neglected that position?? A Driver/Breaston starting combo is just plain awful. Neither of them would even be on my bench. Either of my teams I drafted from the #1 hole would absolutely dismantle your team. I usually don't like to be critical but this is so profoundly obvious. Thanks for your responses. Critical is fine. I like constructive criticism. It's just whether or not i believe it that makes the difference. lol For me, wideouts are a crap shoot. I don't depend on the WRs as much as other do because (1) if you can't grab one of the top 5, the remaining receivers in the next tier have about the same output and (2) they don't receive guaranteed touches like the RBs do. I'm in a 12 team league, and majority of the top WR's and RB's are gone by the time the snake rolls back around. Last year, I made it in the top 4 going RB/WR 1 and 2 but this year I changed my philosophy because most of my wideouts by the end of the year are completely different than my draft while my RB's stayed the same. I took what was available at RB and focused on the more productive backup WR's later. Rodger's throws to both Driver and Jennings so I disagree that Driver is bad pickup. Regardless of if Boldin and Fitz are in or out, Breaston gets his reception as they all topped 1,000 yds last year. Higgins and Crayton will do fine in spot duty as both are kick/punt returners as well. Engram will be replaced as that was a draft casualty from auto pick because of the late timing of my selection and plus he's a KC Chief... ew. Ahmed Bradshaw will do better than people think this year and has shown that spark during preseason games. Hopefully he can continue that during the regular season. Ray Rice is looking to obtain the starting role. Portis has something to prove this year although he may get some relief on 3rd down and Turner is well... the Burner. I'm very happy in grabbing Aaron Rodgers in the 2nd as he's clicking very well with the rest of his team and is focused on letting everyone know how much the Packers don't need Favre. He's throwing the ball very well this preseason and will be top 5 material. Plus Brees, Brady, and the Mannings we already off the board and the packers fan in my league wanted him really, really bad so i had to make my move. Rothlisberger should be a good backup during the off week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted August 27, 2009 Regardless of if Boldin and Fitz are in or out, Breaston gets his reception as they all topped 1,000 yds last year. Breaston had a total of three touchdowns last year. He had five games where he scored double digit fantasy points. He had six games where he scored fewer than three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 133 Posted August 27, 2009 Thanks for your responses. Critical is fine. I like constructive criticism. It's just whether or not i believe it that makes the difference. lol For me, wideouts are a crap shoot. I don't depend on the WRs as much as other do because (1) if you can't grab one of the top 5, the remaining receivers in the next tier have about the same output and (2) they don't receive guaranteed touches like the RBs do. I'm in a 12 team league, and majority of the top WR's and RB's are gone by the time the snake rolls back around. Last year, I made it in the top 4 going RB/WR 1 and 2 but this year I changed my philosophy because most of my wideouts by the end of the year are completely different than my draft while my RB's stayed the same. I took what was available at RB and focused on the more productive backup WR's later. Rodger's throws to both Driver and Jennings so I disagree that Driver is bad pickup. Regardless of if Boldin and Fitz are in or out, Breaston gets his reception as they all topped 1,000 yds last year. Higgins and Crayton will do fine in spot duty as both are kick/punt returners as well. Engram will be replaced as that was a draft casualty from auto pick because of the late timing of my selection and plus he's a KC Chief... ew. Ahmed Bradshaw will do better than people think this year and has shown that spark during preseason games. Hopefully he can continue that during the regular season. Ray Rice is looking to obtain the starting role. Portis has something to prove this year although he may get some relief on 3rd down and Turner is well... the Burner. I'm very happy in grabbing Aaron Rodgers in the 2nd as he's clicking very well with the rest of his team and is focused on letting everyone know how much the Packers don't need Favre. He's throwing the ball very well this preseason and will be top 5 material. Plus Brees, Brady, and the Mannings we already off the board and the packers fan in my league wanted him really, really bad so i had to make my move. Rothlisberger should be a good backup during the off week. depends on the flow of your draft and scoring, but i got Rodgers in the 3rd (12 teamer) after taking Gore and Andre Johnson. I have Driver as my 2nd WR and witten as my TE. Of course by drafting Rodgers and Witten i cost myself a better #3WR and #2 HB but its all about taking risks. While I agree that Rodgers will have a big season, i only drafted a QB by round 3 because of my leagues scoring system (6 pts per pass TD). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sameo98 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Breaston had a total of three touchdowns last year. He had five games where he scored double digit fantasy points. He had six games where he scored fewer than three. Looking at his stats game by game rather than total output, I see your point there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sameo98 0 Posted August 27, 2009 depends on the flow of your draft and scoring, but i got Rodgers in the 3rd (12 teamer) after taking Gore and Andre Johnson. I have Driver as my 2nd WR and witten as my TE. Of course by drafting Rodgers and Witten i cost myself a better #3WR and #2 HB but its all about taking risks. While I agree that Rodgers will have a big season, i only drafted a QB by round 3 because of my leagues scoring system (6 pts per pass TD). So for us Rodgers came at around the same time because my 24th and 25th pick were back to back and I knew I was going RB and QB there. If I wouldn't have picked him up then, I would have been in the lower 2nd or even the 3rd tier of QBs which is what i wanted to avoid. Even though my league scoring system is set at 4pt per TD, I do believe the top tier QBs will have better production than all WR's per week so QB was much more important to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted August 27, 2009 Outside of the WRs your players aren't bad, but you reached massively on Rodgers and Bradshaw and crippled your team accordingly. Even reaching on Rodgers, you could have waited till at least your picks at the round 6/7 corner for Bradshaw, and taken a much better receiver at 5.01. Driver was great in '06, but he's barely been a low-end WR2 since then. If you have that much confidence in Bradshaw and Rice, you should try to trade Portis for a real #1 receiver and see if you can correct those reaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites