Dream situation at the poker table

[Giants Fan 85]

I have literally dreamed of this situation. Normally I don't like to play splash pots unless I have a monster, because there is too much action. Twice a day my local casino splashes every table with $50. First splash today, I limp in with A3. Nobody raises it, flop comes A38 rainbow. One guy bets $18, another guy calls, I move all in and they both fold. I showed 'em my 2 pair. They are regs I know. I wont bluff them. Making my stack like $170 (started with $100). An hour later, second splash pot comes, I look down at two red aces.

 

So, I bet $50. Next guy goes all in for $62. Next guy calls with like $42 total, and another guy with like $150 just calls the $62. Now, he can't fold when I re-pop all in. Flop came 773 with a 7 on the turn, and nobody had a 7, so they were all drawing dead. I took it down. Like a $400 pot. Ended up making $450 today, in about 4 hours.

 

[cbfalcon 824]

I have literally dreamed of this situation. Normally I don't like to play splash pots unless I have a monster, because there is too much action. Twice a day my local casino splashes every table with $50. First splash today, I limp in with A3. Nobody raises it, flop comes A38 rainbow. One guy bets $18, another guy calls, I move all in and they both fold. Making my stack like $170 (started with $100). An hour later, second splash pot comes, I look down at two red aces.

 

So, I bet $50. Next guy goes all in for $62. Next guy calls with like $42 total, and another guy with like $150 just calls the $62. Now, he can't fold when I re-pop all in. Flop came 773 with a 7 on the turn, and nobody had a 7, so they were all drawing dead. I took it down. Like a $400 pot. Ended up making $450 today, in about 4 hours.

 

 

We're they drawing dead? Pocket 8's can still beat you. 9's also.

[kilroy69 1,026]

I hate you

[Giants Fan 85]

We're they drawing dead? Pocket 8's can still beat you. 9's also.

 

Either I don't remember what the other 2 guys had, or they didn't show. One guy showed 44, so at least he was drawing dead when the third 7 hit. Someone with a bigger pocket pair than 7's would have had 2 outs. 4% chance to hit the river.

[nobody 2,103]

We're they drawing dead? Pocket 8's can still beat you. 9's also.

 

 

That's alright, he also can't repop all-in when someone shoves for $62 after he raises to $50 preflop.

 

But's it's also my dream to play a 4 way pot with AA's for $300, so it's easy to forgive the embellishments with all the excitement.

[Giants Fan 85]

So, then a couple of guys leave, and they break the table. They move me over to this table with some hyper-agro guys that I seem to ALWAYS make money against. I pick up 66. I raise it preflop to like $8. Flop comes 667. I flopped quads! I want to disguise my hand, so I bet $10, because I know this guy will call that with a lot of hands. BTW ... I am throwing off false tells like crazy here, like looking back at my hand on the turn. I'm trying to make it look like I have a hand like AK, AQ. He calls. Turn is the 5 of clubs putting a straight and a flush draw out there. I check, he bets $20. I act like I'm thinking about it ... I call. River is the 3 of clubs putting a possible straight flush out there (be a bad beat, and I would win like $5k.) and I check, he bets $50. He's got like $60 more. I pause, count out the chips ... and re-raise him all in. He calls and I say, "I hope you've got a straight flush" as I turn over my cards. He shakes his head and says, "Just a straight" and mucks. After that hand I had like $600 in front of me. $200 is the max buy in, $500 the max bet.

 

And the guy to my left (who actually hit that bad beat earlier in the day and won $6k) had like $600 too. The guy to my right had like $500 when I got there and the guy I felted bought back in for $200 and got up to $500 pretty quick too ... so I wasn't really able to bully that table.

[nobody 2,103]

I like the way you bet out the quad sixes on the flop. You might not be able to get it all in if you didn't. I think too many people fall in love with slow playing. Bad call on the river by him. But I guess if you're going to chase a striaght on a paired board, you might as well call off your last $60 with it.

[Giants Fan 85]

That's alright, he also can't repop all-in when someone shoves for $62 after he raises to $50 preflop.

 

But's it's also my dream to play a 4 way pot with AA's for $300, so it's easy to forgive the embellishments with all the excitement.

 

Sure I can. I bet $50, it's $12 for me to call when it gets back to me. I can go all in there and create a side pot, if called. This is a cash game, not a tournament.

[nobody 2,103]

That is an interesting rule. In every single casino I've ever played at, you can't re-raise unless someone puts in a raise behind you. His $12 wouldn't constitute a re-raise in most card rooms in New Orleans, Vegas, or LA... and not to mention online.

 

blinds 1-2 or whatever...

 

You raise 48 dollars to 50... Every single place I've ever played would require a shove of at least 98 for me to be able to 4-bet.

 

Or, is 50 considered a limp because of the splash pot?

[Mile High Drunk 13]

I would've folded.

[Giants Fan 85]

That is an interesting rule. In every single casino I've ever played at, you can't re-raise unless someone puts in a raise behind you. His $12 wouldn't constitute a re-raise in most card rooms in New Orleans, Vegas, or LA... and not to mention online.

 

blinds 1-2 or whatever...

 

You raise 48 dollars to 50... Every single place I've ever played would require a shove of at least 98 for me to be able to 4-bet.

 

Maybe that's just a weird house rule, because I tried to do that in a tournament at another casino and they wouldn't let me. There was one other person in the hand that had chips and I had pocket QQs and I wanted there to be a side pot but they wouldn't allow it, so I just went all in on the flop and she folded. The other guy in the hand sucked out and she was all. "That's why you don't bet money into a dry pot!" Whatev.

[Giants Fan 85]

Or, is 50 considered a limp because of the splash pot?

 

The splash pot is not a blind. A limp would be $2. So I raised to $50, then was reraised to $62 .... it's $12 to call when it gets to me, in a no limit game ... I can't go all in? Maybe the dealer focked up.

[nobody 2,103]

The splash pot is not a blind. A limp would be $2. So I raised to $50, then was reraised to $62 .... it's $12 to call when it gets to me, in a no limit game ... I can't go all in? Maybe the dealer focked up.

 

 

The dealers where I play fock it up a lot. I always try to shove in that spot, and I'd say half the time, they let me get away with it. Then out of that 50%, half of those where the dealer let's me shove someone will object and call the floor and I'll have to pull it back.

[Giants Fan 85]

Well, I don't remember what that guy had, which means he mucked without showing, but he didn't really hesitate to call me. He can't really fold when it's $60 to call a $350 pot.

[Giants Fan 85]

The dealers where I play fock it up a lot. I always try to shove in that spot, and I'd say half the time, they let me get away with it. Then out of that 50%, half of those where the dealer let's me shove someone will object and call the floor and I'll have to pull it back.

 

I was playing in a hand the other day, against this old man. Think I had AK, he called my preflop raise ... there was like $30 in the pot, he had like $2 left. I wiffed the flop, c-bet $10 ... he thinks about it ... and folds. Dealer pushes his cards back to him and says, "Are you sure you want to fold there?" and I about flipped the fock out. "He said fold. He wants to fold let him fold. What the fock?" that is WAAAAAY wrong.

 

Today, this old fart dealer, said "2 pair" as he pushed the pot to the guy who had 3 jacks. And I said, "Three of a kind". Next thing you know the dealer is saying "My bad" and giving the guy a high hand ticket. Which gets you in a drawing for Friday nights. But you need a full house or better for a ticket. So as the guy is filling it out, I said, "Where there 2 queens out there?" and the guy said, "No, there wasn't. I just had 3 jacks." and ripped up the ticket. Very next hand, he gets a full house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's funny because he just ripped up a ticket he had already filled out. Had to fill one out again.

[Giants Fan 85]

Another hand today ... with 56 suited, I got a full house. Don't forget that with suited connectors you can really easily fill up when someone else hits a straight. That hand paid well. I made some good lay downs too. Mostly, at lower levels .... most players don't bluff. I rarely do. I never bluff off a lot of money anymore .... but I have a loose image so ... people have been paying me off recently. I've been playing a lot tighter. I like it. It's going good. I found first gear.

 

Two fives on the flop. By the time it got to the river there was 55678 out there .... guy with 9,10 thought he struck gold on the river!

[Giants Fan 85]

I once heard Mike Matusow say that he was the "unluckiest" poker player ever. And ... I think he's wrong. He's a good player, but ... the unluckiest guy ever is likely better than him. I think I am better than him. I'd like to play him. See who's unlucky. He's famous .... the unluckiest guy ever, is somebody you never heard of.

 

I'll prolly go card dead for a month after today. I got lucky. Those hands pretty much played themselves. It's nice because my roll was down to $300. But believe me, I've got some sick, sick stories about people catching one outers.

 

Anyway, Mike lost a lot of money online ... kinda came to realize his skill was in reading and manipulating his opponents, in real life. And when he was coming back he said, "Let the game come to you." It's an obscure thing, you cant put an EV on it ... but it's some of the best advice I know.

[Giants Fan 85]

And I've yet to pull off the Spanish Inquisition ... A2, K2 or Q2 with two deuces on the flop ... but I'll be sure to let you know how it works out when I do.

 

You raise preflop .... hit the trip deuces on the flop .... bet again ... nobody will think you have a 2.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAn7baRbhx4

[Giants Fan 85]

UPDATE: Yep ... the dealer focked up. Thanks for the education. Similar situation today, and I wasn't in the hand but was like, "Yeah ... I think he's right. It's capped." Then the guy went all in after the turn and was called anyway ... so it didn't really make any difference.

 

That is the rule though ... even if the dealers don't know it.

[DanXIII 8]

nobody believes Giants Fan's poker tales

[nobody 2,103]

nobody believes Giants Fan's poker tales

 

 

True or not, I enjoy the analysis

[Stewburtx8 67]

The splash pot is not a blind. A limp would be $2. So I raised to $50, then was reraised to $62 .... it's $12 to call when it gets to me, in a no limit game ... I can't go all in? Maybe the dealer focked up.

 

 

No you can't go all in in that situation, but it looks like you found that out now. Happened to me a few years ago playing at Harrah's in Atlantic City. Was late at night and a lot of drunks playing. I was at the table for maybe 20 minutes. Big multi-way pot. Guy raises to $20. Couple callers. I call with 9,10 suited or something like that. Another guy goes all in for like $35 total. Then original raiser then says all in for around $120. Couple players quickly fold and it comes to me. I said to the dealer "he can't make that raise." The dealer was like "Why can't he?" I explained to the dealer that the all in raise to $35 doesn't reopen the betting because it was less than the original raise. The dealer said "If someone raises, he can reraise again."

 

I had been drinking a lot myself and for some reason instead of getting in an argument, I just folded and asked the dealer to please ask the floor for a clarification. Floor comes over and tells the dealer that I was right. Too late for me in that hand though because I stupidly "gave up" and folded my hand. I also now showed everyone at the table (who were unaware of the rule) that I knew what I was doing. I just laughed and left the table to go play blackjack or something.

[eaglesinmylifetime 0]

That's alright, he also can't repop all-in when someone shoves for $62 after he raises to $50 preflop.

 

But's it's also my dream to play a 4 way pot with AA's for $300, so it's easy to forgive the embellishments with all the excitement.

 

be careful what you wish for. with each additional player in the hand, you're chances to win goes down. i got it all-in pre last night ... $212 pot against 3 players. probably only about a 35 percent chance of winning that pot which is +eV since i only put in $50 (i was playing short). did the rare (for me) limp for $2, get a raise to $12, 3 callers, I ship for $50 total and get 3 callers. i rarely limp AA (maybe the second time ever) but i could ee the kid next to me counting out his raise. he wound up with As Ks and turning the nut flush. Nothing like drawing dead with AA going to the river.

[DanXIII 8]

be careful what you wish for. with each additional player in the hand, you're chances to win goes down. i got it all-in pre last night ... $212 pot against 3 players. probably only about a 35 percent chance of winning that pot which is +eV since i only put in $50 (i was playing short). did the rare (for me) limp for $2, get a raise to $12, 3 callers, I ship for $50 total and get 3 callers. i rarely limp AA (maybe the second time ever) but i could ee the kid next to me counting out his raise. he wound up with As Ks and turning the nut flush. Nothing like drawing dead with AA going to the river.

 

This.

 

All you have with AA is top pair. I play in a live "pub league" and we get an automatic qualifier (ie additional starting chips) to our big monthly tournament for getting aces cracked, so many times I will limp with AA just to go for this, but it is normally a bad play not to raise your aces pre flop.

[nobody 2,103]

be careful what you wish for. with each additional player in the hand, you're chances to win goes down. i got it all-in pre last night ... $212 pot against 3 players. probably only about a 35 percent chance of winning that pot which is +eV since i only put in $50 (i was playing short). did the rare (for me) limp for $2, get a raise to $12, 3 callers, I ship for $50 total and get 3 callers. i rarely limp AA (maybe the second time ever) but i could ee the kid next to me counting out his raise. he wound up with As Ks and turning the nut flush. Nothing like drawing dead with AA going to the river.

 

 

Yeah I was being sarcastic.

[nobody 2,103]

This.

 

All you have with AA is top pair. I play in a live "pub league" and we get an automatic qualifier (ie additional starting chips) to our big monthly tournament for getting aces cracked, so many times I will limp with AA just to go for this, but it is normally a bad play not to raise your aces pre flop.

 

 

I played at a casino once that had a 100 jackpot for getting AA cracked (minimum 20 in the pot). It was nothing but prop players, so I don't play there, but it didn't make sense to me. Short stack... limp AA... check call all the way down, collect $100. It was very odd.

[GobbleDog 822]

I remember guys like you when I went to Vegas a few years back. Nearly half the players were late night locals sucking money off tourists. They knew all the dealers, waitresses, and bosses, not to mention each other.

 

 

I'm happy to say this "fish" left Vegas winning a few hundred bucks from those guys. I think they generally over-bet mediocre hands trying to push out the fish early and mid hand. Conservative play resulted in them hanging themselves.

 

[Giants Fan 85]

I remember guys like you when I went to Vegas a few years back. Nearly half the players were late night locals sucking money off tourists. They knew all the dealers, waitresses, and bosses, not to mention each other.

 

 

I'm happy to say this "fish" left Vegas winning a few hundred bucks from those guys. I think they generally over-bet mediocre hands trying to push out the fish early and mid hand. Conservative play resulted in them hanging themselves.

 

 

Yeah, after playing at the same place for a year, all the dealers know my name, as do all the regular players. It's amazing all the hyper agro players I have seen come and go. Since I have adjusted my cash game play to a more patient, conservative style, I am making more money. Although I kinda went in and gambled on some splash pots today. Won like $30. It's like Matt Damon says in Rounders, you grind it out. Took me awhile to adjust my game, but it works a lot better. Qualified today for a $15k tourney. Gotta get 30 hours in a month on the cash tables. Tourney is full of limit players, that suck.

[Giants Fan 85]

Also, last night I chopped another 1k tournament heads up. I got 2nd in points though, as I had less chips. And, it's the same guy I chopped heads up earlier in the season with, when I had more chips, so he got 2nd in points. Pretty interesting considering there were 47 players. Anyway, that puts me solidly in the points for another freeroll which is a $7500 and harder to win because you have to win to get there.

[Giants Fan 85]

Oh yeah, there was another situation last night in the tournament, where I forget what I had KK or something, raised, re-raise all in by small stack, bigger stack calls, gets back to me and I said to the dealer, "Can I re-raise here?" and he said, "You can do whatever you want, you haven't acted yet." So I went all in. I think the other guy folded. And the all inner said, "Yay ... protection!" until I showed him my hand. He had like J 9 off or something. Didn't get there.

[Giants Fan 85]

Another rule in this place is that in a tournament, while it's against the rules, exposing your cards on purpose is not a fold. I showed a guy a bluff one time, then he insisted it was a call, floor was called ... they gave him a 10 minute penalty, but let him call ... I was knocked out of the tourney, I was pi$ed! But, I will never make that mistake again.

 

Never show until the dealer is pushing you the pot. Or better yet, never show. I do ... sometimes. I never show a bluff. There's some value in being a jerk in a poker game to try and tilt your opponents, but everyone who has ever played poker with me ... prolly lost some money to me .... but also had fun. Very few people do I actually dislike at the poker room. And they have no idea that I dislike them. I'm nice to everyone.

 

That's just life advice .... not just poker. Be nice to everybody. Even the people you hate.

[Giants Fan 85]

Besides ugly, angry, stupid, fat ladies. It's OK to be mean to them.

 

Late in a tournament ... I am gonna steal every blind I can. So, there was this smug, fat lady at the final table last night. I had KQ suited and I went all in. She called me with A, 4 off ... and neither of my suit. Being that she was short stacked and I would have plenty of chips left if I lost, I said before I turned over my hand, "Do you have an ace?" and she smiled and nodded and proudly showed her A, 4 off as I said, "You're ahead." King on the flop. She muttered something under her breath as she walked away. All angry cause her A,4 off didn't hold up. Eff you! Go play black jack. You suck at this game.

[Giants Fan 85]

Pretty girls are another story. I'd donk off all my chips to Shanon Elizabeth if I thought I could get in her pants.